06-29-2023, 02:05 PM
Kulturkampf
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06-30-2023, 03:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-30-2023, 03:57 PM by HaughtyFrank.)
Edit: fits better into the funny links thread I think
06-30-2023, 05:09 PM
So the unpacked nuanced version of this argument, is that when you have a systemic elitism - lets call it "The Establishment", because calling it "White Supremacy" presupposes what the issues with establisment pipelines actually are - its not that people outside of that pipeline do not have merit or are capable of doing that job; its that certain merits are perceived as more desirable than others.
So someone who attends all their classes and works Door Dash to pay their way has perceptibly less value to an establishment pipeline than someone who spent their summer as a paralegal for Uncle Mike at Dewey, Screwem, & Howe - the establishment pipeline is self perpetuating as it looks for the 'right kind of people' to perpetuate it. Same deal as you need an MBA to be a corporate executive. Regardless of your actual talent, knowledge or experience at doing the job that would entail (and conversely, no matter how actually shit you might be at a corporate role but still have an MBA). So there's some weight to this argument, but why the fuck would you try and make it on Twitter in 250 chars ![]()
06-30-2023, 07:03 PM
don't know if this really belongs here, maybe we should have an elon musk thread again but the furor died down after a while
however it seems that musk in his infinite wisdom has just decided that you can't view tweets on twitter without being logged in, presumably in an effort to curb scraping of content into AI or something interestingly, embedded tweets here still seem to show up
07-01-2023, 01:09 AM
(06-30-2023, 07:03 PM)Uncle wrote: don't know if this really belongs here, maybe we should have an elon musk thread again but the furor died down after a while In trying to find information about this, most sites and blogs reporting it link back to Twitter. Embedded tweets show, yeah, but it’s surfacing how modern internet revolves around Twitter. I’ll freely admit to feeling in the dark having no access to Twitter. Haven’t decided if it’s a bad thing yet. I’m resolved to never sign up. If this is the norm going forward, whatever.
07-01-2023, 02:33 AM
07-01-2023, 06:56 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/30/terry-pratchett-discworld-content-warning-outdated-attitude/
Quote:Terry Pratchett’s Discworld gets an unlikely visitor – a content warning
07-01-2023, 02:41 PM
they're not even being fucking specific now?
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07-01-2023, 02:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-01-2023, 02:52 PM by HaughtyFrank.)
Quote:A spokesman said: “This is not a trigger warning, but rather a note providing some context for the listener. The author’s estate is aligned.” If only there was a different way to know when a book was released. I don't know, maybe put it on the very first page listing it along with details like who the original publisher was
07-01-2023, 02:58 PM
Content warning
This post may contain transphobia, homophobia, racism, pornography, holocaust denial, violence, ethnic slurs, anti-feminism, war crimes, gamergate, discriminatory statements, insults, slavery, genocide, harmful intentions, gore, hateful rhetoric, hate speech and nudity. 'sup ![]()
07-01-2023, 05:09 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-01-2023, 05:10 PM by HaughtyFrank.)
07-01-2023, 07:21 PM
(07-01-2023, 02:58 PM)Nintex wrote: Content warning You promised us nudity. Well, we're waiting...
07-01-2023, 07:41 PM
(07-01-2023, 06:56 AM)Potato wrote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/06/30/terry-pratchett-discworld-content-warning-outdated-attitude/ I'm assuming this is because the early rincewind books are a light hearted pisstake of non-specific asian tourists (Twoflower was obviously meant to be japanese but much much much later was more obviously chinese) but if you point that out you're gonna get the usual wokescolds kicking off about racism when it was more just about culture clash and how weird tourists inherently are ![]()
07-02-2023, 04:30 AM
07-02-2023, 07:08 PM
We did it fam
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07-03-2023, 03:43 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-03-2023, 03:44 PM by PhoenixDark.)
The problem with this affirmative action debate is the same problem we're seeing in multiple areas, from culture to art to everything else: a complete refusal to acknowledge non-white people can possibly have their own ideas, motives, or interests outside of a white power structure. The end result is a mental and policy stagnation that really has one victim: black people. And frankly it's time to start examining whether this is deliberate.
If your worldview is that white supremacy is the dominant world ideology then it's easy to dismiss other cultures' long-held norms, views, and lifestyles. I 100% believe white supremacy exists obviously, but it is not the wizard of Oz behind the curtain of every culture that comes to America. The flaws of this mindset get exposed often but I can't think of many more direct than the recent freakout over Muslim Americans not wanting gay books/content in their libraries. Why people expected an Abrahamic religion to be progressive is beyond me. The Koran states that homosexuality should be punished, and Muhammad stated it should be by death. What does that have to do with white supremacy? But when your sole interest is in forming non-white coalitions of voters who do exactly what you want them to do, this becomes a complication right. This isn't about allies or quid pro quo. People have vested self interests that drive their behavior and actions. When you fail to acknowledge this it leads you down intellectually fraught roads, like "we defended you after 911/Iraq so you should support gay rights." Huh? This isn't about Muslims allying with white supremacy, it's about Muslims having religious views that mirror Christian views when it comes to homosexuality. And abortion. When I look at what's going on with immigrant groups in America I see a clear race for resources. People coming to this country and taking advantage of any opportunity to attain education and businesses. Their political allegiances largely center on who is helping them achieve their goals, and who is impeding their goals. The issue is not that these immigrant groups want to attain whiteness - they want to replace it. And by dismissing their ambitions as an almost slave-like obsession with their oppressor all liberals are doing is insulting their intelligence. Many of these communities aren't even trying to assimilate, beyond education. Many eat at restaurants within their community, almost exclusively shop at stores within their community, and seek out doctors within their community. None of this gels with wanting to be...white. Here's how it hurts black people. While we remain stagnant and complain about groups not being good allies, those groups keep running the resource race. And when the dust settles and this shit gets to where it's going...we're going to face permanent underclass status while Asians/Hispanics/etc say "I did this on my own, why can't you." They didn't do it on their own obviously, but that's what they will say. There will be no white guilt at play, either. Why would they feel guilty, after all - they aren't white, they aren't the ancestors of slave owners, etc. Point being none of these people are our ally and it's time to act accordingly. (07-02-2023, 07:08 PM)Nintex wrote: We did it famGotta love the arrogance and presumption of this "professor" giving up after making sweeping accusations about an entire generation because of a single interaction with another person. The first time in history a teacher ever came across a student that didn't give a shit. (07-03-2023, 02:18 AM)HaughtyFrank wrote:Can we also talk about how apparently Obama was the first guy to ever have this extremely common centuries old vision?
07-03-2023, 07:33 PM
(07-03-2023, 03:43 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: Here's how it hurts black people. While we remain stagnant and complain about groups not being good allies, those groups keep running the resource race. And when the dust settles and this shit gets to where it's going...we're going to face permanent underclass status while Asians/Hispanics/etc say "I did this on my own, why can't you." They didn't do it on their own obviously, but that's what they will say. There will be no white guilt at play, either. Why would they feel guilty, after all - they aren't white, they aren't the ancestors of slave owners, etc. Point being none of these people are our ally and it's time to act accordingly.Don't sleep on the Indians
07-03-2023, 07:56 PM
(07-03-2023, 07:33 PM)Nintex wrote:(07-03-2023, 03:43 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: Here's how it hurts black people. While we remain stagnant and complain about groups not being good allies, those groups keep running the resource race. And when the dust settles and this shit gets to where it's going...we're going to face permanent underclass status while Asians/Hispanics/etc say "I did this on my own, why can't you." They didn't do it on their own obviously, but that's what they will say. There will be no white guilt at play, either. Why would they feel guilty, after all - they aren't white, they aren't the ancestors of slave owners, etc. Point being none of these people are our ally and it's time to act accordingly.Don't sleep on the Indians Hearing about how Indians come here and institute caste systems on tech teams is insane. Friend of mine had to damn near get a couple guys fired because they outright refused to speak to a woman on the team because of her caste. Mind blowing. Also note what happened in Seattle where they passed a low banned caste discrimination in the workplace last year. Large protests from Indian Americans, accusations of racism, etc. Again, all of these groups have specific policy interests and demands which may or may not line up with democrats (or republicans). Treating everyone like a singular, non-white Borg entity ain't cutting it. ![]() |
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