Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Uncle]

Coincidentally, I'm reading the history of Africa right now (its a DK book, so lots of pictures), and Africans were too busy feuding with other Africans to come up with Black Panther technology.

fuck yes

[Propagandhim]

historical revisionism is one of the more infuriating aspects of the far left

"oh didn't you know, peasants were actually happy and carefree"

"oh yeah, this famous historical figure from greece? she was black actually"

"this ancient emperor was actually trans, yeah take that bigots, you have to refer to her as 'she' now"

"this woman was buried with a sword, that means she had a masculine role in her society so actually ancient societies were totally trans-friendly"

Yeah, or romanticizing indigenous cultures as these morally pure, transcendental druids that had progressive gender roles or some shit and never cut off rival tribes heads as war trophies and practiced child sacrifice.

[Potato]

Oh definitely.

Edit: Sent way too soon lol. I was going to say I long for a public transportation system like Japan's. Just as well, it should be noted that a lot of the push for electric vehicles is simultaneously coming at the expense of public transportation initiatives. Because of you can get to where you want to go without a car, how is Elon going to sell billions of Teslas?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/page-8?post=122927055#post-122927055

Who's gonna tell Nep that it's in very large part privatized?

Does Nep understand she can free herself of the yoke of capitalist transportation by buying a second hand bicycle?

[Propagandhim]

Oh definitely.

Edit: Sent way too soon lol. I was going to say I long for a public transportation system like Japan's. Just as well, it should be noted that a lot of the push for electric vehicles is simultaneously coming at the expense of public transportation initiatives. Because of you can get to where you want to go without a car, how is Elon going to sell billions of Teslas?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/page-8?post=122927055#post-122927055

Who's gonna tell Nep that it's in very large part privatized?

She hates white people, but she wants every white-majority country to cater to her every whim with 0 contribution from her end.  And won't get up and move to a place that doesn't have the people causing all her problems.   Why don't we have flying cars?? I was promised flying cars!!

[Uncle]

I don't understand why Nepenthe just doesn't get the fuck up and leave and go live a pre-capitalist, tribal lifestyle among the "noble savages" she fetishizes so much.   The Korowai in Indonesia, the San and Hadza in Africa, the Yanomami in South America, the Sentinelese and Jarawa in India - take your pick on which subsistence living you want and go do it.  It isn't hard to get up and move.  Are white people holding a gun to her head and forcing her to live this undignified life?

no see those societies are all suffering due to trickle-down capitalism exploiting them, all peoples suffer from the influence of the white man, it is inescapable

so you work within the system as you can, as you are able to, you suffer and are forced to use the tools of your enemies (the gobs of cash you have in your affluent middle class lifestyle) in order to dismantle the system, and benefit such cultures far more than if you simply joined them

[Potato]

historical revisionism is one of the more infuriating aspects of the far left

"oh didn't you know, peasants were actually happy and carefree"

"oh yeah, this famous historical figure from greece? she was black actually"

"this ancient emperor was actually trans, yeah take that bigots, you have to refer to her as 'she' now"

"this woman was buried with a sword, that means she had a masculine role in her society so actually ancient societies were totally trans-friendly"

Yeah, or romanticizing indigenous cultures as these morally pure, transcendental druids that had progressive gender roles or some shit and never cut off rival tribes heads as war trophies and practiced child sacrifice.

The Maori in New Zealand lived at one with nature and accepted gender diversity...oh, and they also ate their enemies and had frequent wars with neighbouring tribes, but that's probably the white man's fault.

[Averon]

Nep immediately going to the police--you know, the white devils and killers of all innocent PoC--to file a report over a fucking joke on a private Discord shows how how much of a bullshitter she is.

[benji]

Yes, I'm aware of that. Just as well though, I think we look at pre-capitalism and post-capitalism in terms of a very narrow Western lens, and also without regard for looking at human development internationally as a broad comparison. English Feudalism isn't the same as African feudalism which isn't the same as Japanese feudalism, and indeed, many Indigenous societies didn't even engage in feudalism at all. Communalism and communalist tendencies tended to pervade Indigenous and African societies which allowed for a more dignified existence than European peasantry experienced considering the general technological advancement of the world at the time. Indeed, it's already been posted here by someone else, I think Thordinson, but abject poverty was relatively rare in pre-capitalist societies, and subsequently were the individualist attitudes that come with capitalism.

But of course, this is all happening in a time before automation and air conditioning and Amazon and shit. The conditions thousands of years ago were worse in spite of the economic systems in play just as a matter of the fact that we hadn't developed the knowledge and technology yet to stave off the worst that the material world throws at us. Yes, if you ask me if I would ever want to give up having water pipes or garbage disposal, then no, but I would also argue that I don't think the existence of pipes was inevitable only by way of capitalism. As I said, humans develop whether we like it or not, and I would be optimistic and argue we would develop more if we were less hamstrung by the demands of capitalism. How much sheer human potential has been lost off the African continent alone since the Slave Trade? We probably could've been living like the Jetsons by now.

[benji]

"hurrr durr we just didn't have the knowledge and technology yet"

Oh, I fucking wonder why when there was no capital capacity and total substance living for literally the entire population. Weird how all that knowledge and technology keeps showing up in the wealthiest dynamic societies in every single instance. I fucking wonder if there's a connection.

[benji]

I tried to take a carrot, leave a steam engine design and explanation but the community condemned the capitalist exploitation, tore those up for taking away jobs and sent me back to the carrot mines! (The community's lived experience says carrots come from deep within the earth, the further down the more carrots. The white cishets try to mislead us and starve us by saying carrots are plants that grow on the surface.)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-118?post=122934792#post-122934792

People in those right-wing spirals may think they feel joy and have found community, but their hate is poison to themselves and everyone around them.

Their hatred is the only thing that can make them feel better. It's a life completely consumed in negativity and they surround themselves with other people who will relish in that hate with them.

[Alpacx]

Feudal peasants didn't work 8+ hours every day. Work day length increased with capitalism because capitalists want infinite money, which necessitates producing as much crap as possible, which means we work beyond our productive capacity and even what automation should entail.

I'm not an expert like CapNep but didn't they work the hours of the sun? What is a feudal farmer supposed to work on when they can't see? How did these ancient workers pay off their Versa payments with the exploitative borrowing rate?

Nep's parroting something that was really popular on Twitter a couple years ago. 

Some moron added up all the feudal duties a peasant had to their lord and concluded it was less work than 8 hours/day or 150 days/year or something and got it published in an academic journal or something.

Completely ignoring all the subsistence farming work and tending to animals they had to do to grow enough food to survive the year.

Edit: somebody post Benji's charts in that thread with the Riotous account.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-118?post=122934792#post-122934792

People in those right-wing spirals may think they feel joy and have found community, but their hate is poison to themselves and everyone around them.

Their hatred is the only thing that can make them feel better. It's a life completely consumed in negativity and they surround themselves with other people who will relish in that hate with them.

[D3RANG3D]

I think there's a worthwhile discussion if that "baseline" expectation is just too high nowadays. Like if a major AAA game launched with PS3 era visuals but a rock-solid everything else to decrease the cost and time needed to bring it to market I feel it would be eviscerated by reviews and gamers alike; so at that point is maybe the graphical expectations such that you need to compromise other aspects of the game to stay on target or compromise nothing and end up with 7+ years dev cycles and needing to sell 10 million copies to break even.

Such BS

Most of RE were complaining that Rise of the Ronin looked graphically terrible and the game sold well enough.

The vast majority of the industry and almost all of the consumers are in a post-"how are the graphics" world except the Sony Ponies who have no other reason to justify their fanboyism if they can't talk about "the graphics". 

Even the PC gaming crowd, who spend thousands on bleeding edge technology, don't even give a shit anymore. 

But these chucklefucks who have been playing the exact same games with prettier graphics since the fucking PS3 just can't let go. 

Sony Ponies. The biggest retards in gaming.

I can attest to this I spent about $800 on my rig a couple of years ago, and I mainly play boomer shooters, as the kids call them nowadays.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-322?post=122937354#post-122937354

Malcom X made these statements during his time in the Nation of Islam and he died 60 years ago prior to the to the 'Southern Strategy' being established and utilized, which vastly changed the leanings of Democrats and Republicans and is the point that the GOP squarely became the party that used race as a bullhorn to get votes.

Point being - this quote is is often used to paint the current political landscape with a 'both sides are bad' view which ignores all nuance and context of when he said it and what changed in his life and in the world after he said it. Would you quote his statements about MLK Jr and the March on Washington, or his and the NoI's views on the separation of White and Black Americans, or their stance on voting at the time as justification for a viewpoint? Those happened around the same time as his quote, after which he went through a rapid shift to supporting the Civil Rights Movement and MLK Jr's part of it. He was a much different man just two years later when the NoI (and potentially government elements) helped assassinate him.

I'm loathe to roll out any quote from a historical figure to justify any situation for the very simple reason that we can't know how those people would feel in modern contexts. I prefer to leave them in their time and context. While I don't doubt the man would be supportive of Palestinians I have no idea how he'd feel about anything else unless he rises from the dead and gives a speech.

I've seen polls that show the overwhelming majority of Israelis support the genocide in Gaza... White liberal genocide apologists are trying to silence people like Nola for speaking the truth.

That's the same sort of logic that would be used to justify calling all Palestinians terrorists:

https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-poll-wartime-views-a0baade915619cd070b5393844bc4514

Despite the devastation, 57% of respondents in Gaza and 82% in the West Bank believe Hamas was correct in launching the October attack, the poll indicated. A large majority believed Hamas' claims that it acted to defend a major Islamic shrine in Jerusalem against Jewish extremists and win the release of Palestinian prisoners. Only 10% said they believed Hamas has committed war crimes, with a large majority saying they did not see videos showing the militants committing atrocities.

Hamas *are* terrorists, including against their own people. The IDF *are* committing war crimes at the behest of Bibi/Likud/Israeli Government.
I'm not willing to paint those who are not supporters of Hamas or the Israeli Gov as supporting genocide - those people are the key to breaking the cycle of violence and need to be supported.

I mean if the US actually had that info, wouldnt they have shared it anyways?

Not necessarily - If the info revealed anything about US intelligence sources or capabilities that didn't want to be revealed, or the info was classified above a certain level, or the judgement was that sharing it was outside US interests (eg that his specific location could result in Israel doing something the US wanted to avoid, such as another embassy [well, embassy compound] attack) then they might be hesitant to share. Intelligence sharing has a whole extra bucket of red tape to go through, and there are some immensely strict rules about interacting with 'allies' even at lower clearance levels, because not every 'ally' is a friend.

The shadow of Jonathan Pollard no doubt plays a part as well.

Trans flag? Actual takes and not reactionary? Uhoh bros how is HamasEra going to react..

[Polident]

I think there's a worthwhile discussion if that "baseline" expectation is just too high nowadays. Like if a major AAA game launched with PS3 era visuals but a rock-solid everything else to decrease the cost and time needed to bring it to market I feel it would be eviscerated by reviews and gamers alike; so at that point is maybe the graphical expectations such that you need to compromise other aspects of the game to stay on target or compromise nothing and end up with 7+ years dev cycles and needing to sell 10 million copies to break even.

Such BS

Most of RE were complaining that Rise of the Ronin looked graphically terrible and the game sold well enough.

The vast majority of the industry and almost all of the consumers are in a post-"how are the graphics" world except the Sony Ponies who have no other reason to justify their fanboyism if they can't talk about "the graphics". 

Even the PC gaming crowd, who spend thousands on bleeding edge technology, don't even give a shit anymore. 

But these chucklefucks who have been playing the exact same games with prettier graphics since the fucking PS3 just can't let go. 

Sony Ponies. The biggest retards in gaming.

When I explore this stuff for my own goals, it appears the push for faster GPUs and all is catered towards esports and competitive multiplayer with ludicrous frame rates. There’s this LG OLED monitor, ordinary 4K at 240hz, that can swap to a 1080p 480hz mode.

For single player stuff I’m interested in, my mid range laptop on its limited quiet mode handles everything at 60 fps and up. Better or worse, this stuff has stagnated and it makes Steam Deck and handheld PCs viable.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/steve-albini-dies-aged-61.865320/page-4?post=122923494#post-122923494

User Banned (2 Months): Platforming a terrorist

Warning: NSFL

mod edit: can we not platform one of the internet's most notorious trolls?

Nah fuck this pedophile, he's better off dead.

that's some stupid dickhead trying to get under people's skin. Albini's edgelord past has been well addressed and we wouldn't be celebrating his life if we had any reason to believe he was actually a monster, come the FUCK on people

Nah dude. That's beyond edge lord shit. The quote about the cover of his friends magazine? If he had said that shit today, the FBI would be ransacking his house.

This isn't a conversation you get to join 10 years late and decide he deserved a horrible death. It was wrong then and is wrong now, and Steve literally said so himself. But if you're implying it was anything other than provocation, you're just wrong.

I don't think you get to make the rules on the deadline if someone can comment on new information they have learned about someone. What he said is literally the most vile shit I've ever read. He could have cured cancer after saying that and I'd still think he was a vile piece of shit.

Then make a fucking thread about it instead of shitting up this thread about someone that just died.

https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e

[Boredfrom]

1715660055[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/steve-albini-dies-aged-61.865320/page-4?post=122923494#post-122923494

User Banned (2 Months): Platforming a terrorist

Warning: NSFL

mod edit: can we not platform one of the internet's most notorious trolls?

Nah fuck this pedophile, he's better off dead.

that's some stupid dickhead trying to get under people's skin. Albini's edgelord past has been well addressed and we wouldn't be celebrating his life if we had any reason to believe he was actually a monster, come the FUCK on people

Nah dude. That's beyond edge lord shit. The quote about the cover of his friends magazine? If he had said that shit today, the FBI would be ransacking his house.

This isn't a conversation you get to join 10 years late and decide he deserved a horrible death. It was wrong then and is wrong now, and Steve literally said so himself. But if you're implying it was anything other than provocation, you're just wrong.

I don't think you get to make the rules on the deadline if someone can comment on new information they have learned about someone. What he said is literally the most vile shit I've ever read. He could have cured cancer after saying that and I'd still think he was a vile piece of shit.

Then make a fucking thread about it instead of shitting up this thread about someone that just died.

https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e

Independently of the Albani pedo:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Ryne_Goldberg

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/steve-albini-dies-aged-61.865320/page-4?post=122923494#post-122923494

User Banned (2 Months): Platforming a terrorist

Isn't this what Ree literally is?

[Potato]

I tried to take a carrot, leave a steam engine design and explanation but the community condemned the capitalist exploitation, tore those up for taking away jobs and sent me back to the carrot mines! (The community's lived experience says carrots come from deep within the earth, the further down the more carrots. The white cishets try to mislead us and starve us by saying carrots are plants that grow on the surface.)

Day 5 of the communist revolution: 

Dear diary, 

We've killed all the landowners and we know this means the communist utopia is right around the corner. However, were all so weak and unable to celebrate because we haven't eaten for more than 48 hours and the Taco Bell employees all abandoned their posts to self-actualise as the musicians and artists they always knew they were. 

The problem is that nobody knows where to get food from and the Uber Eats drivers have stopped delivering. I'm sure the political science graduates in charge will come up with a solution soon. Overlord Nepenthe said something about carrots, but several comrades have allergies and can't eat them. 

I'm going to ask tomorrow where the chicken nuggets are farmed because maybe it's just a temporary production issue and I might be able to help with the harvest.

[Ribosome]

Bold of you to assume the revolution made it out of the basement.

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ok-capitalism-is-spiraling-out-of-control-right.868842/page-4?post=122893644#post-122893644
louiedog

And they've got people convinced they too can achieve the same.

My college roommate literally jumped up and down on the couch clapping and giggling while watching the news when the US was dropping bombs on a foreign country. I'm going to say it again. He LITERALLY did that. The reason? In his words, "I'd be liberal but I'm planning on making a lot of money some day." He decided whatever people the Republicans in control were okay killing was fine because he might want to keep some money in his pocket some day in the future.

NepNep

You should've dragged him into the street and whooped his ass.

Just like you did to your capitalist step-dad, right NepNep? Right?

Nepenthe can’t whoop ass in the street at her house because it’s frowned upon by the HOA.

[Besticus Maximus]

Are you suggesting that deleting people in the digital realm is not revolution? 

[Rendle]

I thought the last time we talked, I told you not to talk to me. Maybe I didn't; if not, my bad. I'll address this then.

Does... does Nepenthe not understand the underlying concept of an internet forum?

Post boobs, get likes? I fail to see how that applies to resetera though

[Taco Bell Tower]

1715660055[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/steve-albini-dies-aged-61.865320/page-4?post=122923494#post-122923494

User Banned (2 Months): Platforming a terrorist

Warning: NSFL

mod edit: can we not platform one of the internet's most notorious trolls?

Nah fuck this pedophile, he's better off dead.

that's some stupid dickhead trying to get under people's skin. Albini's edgelord past has been well addressed and we wouldn't be celebrating his life if we had any reason to believe he was actually a monster, come the FUCK on people

Nah dude. That's beyond edge lord shit. The quote about the cover of his friends magazine? If he had said that shit today, the FBI would be ransacking his house.

This isn't a conversation you get to join 10 years late and decide he deserved a horrible death. It was wrong then and is wrong now, and Steve literally said so himself. But if you're implying it was anything other than provocation, you're just wrong.

I don't think you get to make the rules on the deadline if someone can comment on new information they have learned about someone. What he said is literally the most vile shit I've ever read. He could have cured cancer after saying that and I'd still think he was a vile piece of shit.

Then make a fucking thread about it instead of shitting up this thread about someone that just died.

https://medium.com/@MoonMetropolis/now-that-steve-albini-is-dead-lets-reflect-on-his-admitted-love-and-promotion-of-child-fadf5072288e

Independently of the Albani pedo:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Ryne_Goldberg

Reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/s/v44jl6uVGC

[Eric Cartman]

My college roommate literally jumped up and down on the couch clapping and giggling while watching the news when the US was dropping bombs on a foreign country. I'm going to say it again. He LITERALLY did that. The reason? In his words, "I'd be liberal but I'm planning on making a lot of money some day." He decided whatever people the Republicans in control were okay killing was fine because he might want to keep some money in his pocket some day in the future.

That room mates name?

Lockheed Martin.

Checkmate, Atheists.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-118?post=122934792#post-122934792

People in those right-wing spirals may think they feel joy and have found community, but their hate is poison to themselves and everyone around them.

Their hatred is the only thing that can make them feel better. It's a life completely consumed in negativity and they surround themselves with other people who will relish in that hate with them.

Has anyone noticed the left is never happy

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/finally-got-back-to-watching-the-boys-and-i-got-things-to-say-about-homelander.869796/?post=122930418#post-122930418

How chuds think he's the good guy i will never understand

Also era:
"KILLMONGER WAS RIGHT, HURR DURRR"

[Eric Cartman]

historical revisionism is one of the more infuriating aspects of the far left

historical revisionism based on being actively ignorant on the subject matter at hand and not even pretending to do even the most cursory research to see if their hypothesis stands against even a basic scrutiny

[Polident]

My college roommate literally jumped up and down on the couch clapping and giggling while watching the news when the US was dropping bombs on a foreign country. I'm going to say it again. He LITERALLY did that. The reason? In his words, "I'd be liberal but I'm planning on making a lot of money some day." He decided whatever people the Republicans in control were okay killing was fine because he might want to keep some money in his pocket some day in the future.

That room mates name?

Lockheed Martin.

Checkmate, Atheists.

Honestly, a believable anecdote. People like that exist. But realistically the user is bitter over his roommate kicking him out every other night because he was creeping out the girls brought over.