05-19-2024, 08:12 PM
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I've read Marx and I'm 100% sure he was talking about things like the relation of the subject and the object and how history is divided up by technology and literally none of this shite ever came up. In fact, while wrong about lots of shite, I think he would take the view that this twitter user is talking boojie nonsense.
(05-19-2024, 07:59 PM)Nintex wrote: "Accepting" this marxist nonsense and believing that it's just "tough talk on the internet" has ruined universities for at least a generation.
Just look at that kid from ResetEra who has thrown his life away to stan for Hamas.
Students at their most vulnerable are actively being taught to hate capitalism, the west and western values.
Ignoring it has gotten us to this point. Who's ignoring it?
(05-19-2024, 07:59 PM)Nintex wrote: (05-19-2024, 06:25 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: Buddy we have to just accept these people are not the best and brightest.
I'm gonna assume she's a Marxist too so chalk it up as another one talking tough on the internet who doesn't own a gun and can't fight. "Accepting" this marxist nonsense and believing that it's just "tough talk on the internet" has ruined universities for at least a generation.
Just look at that kid from ResetEra who has thrown his life away to stan for Hamas.
Students at their most vulnerable are actively being taught to hate capitalism, the west and western values.
Ignoring it has gotten us to this point.
Most are not being taught that in universities though. I think people under estimate how virtually every topic beyond the standard liberal/conservative spectrum leads back to Marxism on social media right now. It's the catch-all solution and explanation for everything, and the end result is that young people are being radicalized into disengagement. The political concern would be that they aren't voting but the more important social consequences are large groups of young people who cannot operate in the real world because they're so upset/depressed/angry/etc about whatever the topic of the day is. It's insane how many weird tweets I see of normal socialists or Marxists saying "you know you can have fun and enjoy hobbies while also caring about social/economic issues right." Normal people don't need to be told this. Cult members do.
These kids literally don't know anything about the US or world. From a leftist perspective they don't know the US is significantly more progressive than much of the west. They have no concept of casual American wealth compared to much of the world. They can't fathom that their gender identities are more welcome here than virtually anywhere else. There was a big blowup a few months ago when a DSA delegation went to Cuba and some members reported on how bad conditions are there, how corrupt and oppressive the government is, etc. To this day they're being attacked and accused of being western agents. Basically my point is that all of this requires to live in an alternate reality and be as ill informed as possible (besides whatever books you're told to read, for re-education purposes).
Still believe kids having access to adult topics via social media is a miscalculation of internet. From both ends, really. People well into adulthood getting validation from literal children.
The natural course has always been to flirt with communism in late high school/early college. Grow out of it by like 20 to 22 from accumulating life experience. Or actually reading Marx and finding it embarrassing.
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(05-20-2024, 01:54 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: Most are not being taught that in universities though. I think people under estimate how virtually every topic beyond the standard liberal/conservative spectrum leads back to Marxism on social media right now. It's the catch-all solution and explanation for everything, and the end result is that young people are being radicalized into disengagement. The political concern would be that they aren't voting but the more important social consequences are large groups of young people who cannot operate in the real world because they're so upset/depressed/angry/etc about whatever the topic of the day is. It's insane how many weird tweets I see of normal socialists or Marxists saying "you know you can have fun and enjoy hobbies while also caring about social/economic issues right." Normal people don't need to be told this. Cult members do.
These kids literally don't know anything about the US or world. From a leftist perspective they don't know the US is significantly more progressive than much of the west. They have no concept of casual American wealth compared to much of the world. They can't fathom that their gender identities are more welcome here than virtually anywhere else. There was a big blowup a few months ago when a DSA delegation went to Cuba and some members reported on how bad conditions are there, how corrupt and oppressive the government is, etc. To this day they're being attacked and accused of being western agents. Basically my point is that all of this requires to live in an alternate reality and be as ill informed as possible (besides whatever books you're told to read, for re-education purposes).
It's swings and roundabouts.
On some issues - unquestioning trans acceptance probably being the more obvious recently in that its a major platform of contention in the US, but I would also say free speech protections and lack of inherent classism - yes, but on many many others - such as defence spending, gun control, universal health care, separation of church and state, crime and punishment, immigration (ironically), social security frameworks, and public education, not so much.
Fundamentally the founding fathers were a mix of puritans who left europe because it was full of godless heathens that didn't bible hard enough, and libertarians who saw an opportunity to shape their own rules free of the constraints of tradition.
The fundamental ideological differences between these two groups accounts for much of the schizoid nature of US politics; people will freak the fuck out at seeing an exposed tit, while the local store has Anal Cum Dumpsters XIV in 4K bluray
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05-20-2024, 08:26 PM
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(05-20-2024, 01:54 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: These kids literally don't know anything about the US or world. From a leftist perspective they don't know the US is significantly more progressive than much of the west. (05-20-2024, 05:29 PM)Eric Cartman wrote: It's swings and roundabouts. Leftists in my experience condemn Europe equally for being enthralled to capitalism, whiteness and having histories of sins, they just prefer the more powerful states that are less restricted by democracy there.
05-20-2024, 11:49 PM
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(05-19-2024, 09:21 AM)Eric Cartman wrote: Yes, well done; that individuals are not expected to exact 'justice' (retribution) by finding the correct perpetrator themselves and then exacting an appropriate response, that does not in turn require another individual to then exact further redress, leading to perpetual escalation, is literally the reason for having criminal justice systems.
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(05-19-2024, 06:25 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: Buddy we have to just accept these people are not the best and brightest.
I'm gonna assume she's a Marxist too so chalk it up as another one talking tough on the internet who doesn't own a gun and can't fight.
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05-20-2024, 11:52 PM
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05-21-2024, 12:04 AM
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(05-20-2024, 11:49 PM)benji wrote: (05-19-2024, 09:21 AM)Eric Cartman wrote: Yes, well done; that individuals are not expected to exact 'justice' (retribution) by finding the correct perpetrator themselves and then exacting an appropriate response, that does not in turn require another individual to then exact further redress, leading to perpetual escalation, is literally the reason for having criminal justice systems.
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Why is he talking about mob violence like a theoretical concept and not something that has happened again and again. Just how are these people so far removed from reality
And spoiler alert, many many times mob violence wasn't directed at the elites
(05-20-2024, 11:49 PM)benji wrote: (05-19-2024, 09:21 AM)Eric Cartman wrote: Yes, well done; that individuals are not expected to exact 'justice' (retribution) by finding the correct perpetrator themselves and then exacting an appropriate response, that does not in turn require another individual to then exact further redress, leading to perpetual escalation, is literally the reason for having criminal justice systems.
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(05-19-2024, 06:25 PM)PhoenixDark wrote: Buddy we have to just accept these people are not the best and brightest.
I'm gonna assume she's a Marxist too so chalk it up as another one talking tough on the internet who doesn't own a gun and can't fight.
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Twatter. The biggest mistake in the world.
(05-20-2024, 11:52 PM)benji wrote: ![[Image: GN-O6dMXoAA3GXW?format=png&name=small]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GN-O6dMXoAA3GXW?format=png&name=small)

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Cool, it's good to know that in the new take a carrot society intent DOES NOT form part of the definition of murder.
(05-21-2024, 12:10 AM)Potato wrote: Cool, it's good to know that in the new take a carrot society intent DOES NOT form part of the definition of murder. That's the kind of progress the anxious elites are trying to keep from us.
05-21-2024, 02:31 PM
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(05-20-2024, 11:52 PM)benji wrote: ![[Image: GN-O6dMXoAA3GXW?format=png&name=small]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GN-O6dMXoAA3GXW?format=png&name=small)
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I'm curious if they're just playing a weird logistical gymnastics game where if you rape involuntarily then technically it wasn't rape
like, you're just drunk enough to not be fully aware that she's a little too drunk to consent, and in the morning she regrets it and post hoc revokes consent
or you're a young person who has never had "the talk" from any source, and a fellow young person doesn't really want to have sex, but you talk them into fooling around and they begrudgingly say ok, and then 10 years later decide because they were coerced it was rape
(05-21-2024, 02:29 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
I thought to myself, "there is literally no way that can be true" so decided to do the absolute bare minimum of research available to me, namely wikipedia'd it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_in_Iran wrote:The United Nations Human Rights Council has reported that "lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender children are subjected to electric shocks and the administration of hormones and strong psychoactive medications"
I'm big enough to admit I am wrong; electro shock treatment and psychotropics are indeed provided by the government, and do technically qualify as medical treatments.
Weird flex, but OK.
the manner in which it is true is that if you are gay you are put to death, so gay men are forcibly subjected to "gender affirming care" (getting their cock chopped off) because now technically they're trans so they're not gay so they don't have to be killed, hooray
 ayatollah-kun
(05-21-2024, 03:04 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
WTF, I love free speech now!!
(05-21-2024, 03:04 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: All those media outlets just want to say slurs.
(05-21-2024, 10:05 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
Are there any college campuses holding a candlelight vigil for The Butcher of Tehran. Or have all the kiddos gone home?
"hard line stance"
[tweet]https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1793493501851943094?t=oyOHaZ1SvDBKoCKJ-CCnOw&s=19[/tweet]
Because you were brainwashed Bill. "Active measures" or "psy-ops". Welcome back to reality.
Quote:New York judge Sarah Netburn dismissed the Bureau of Prisons’ concern for female inmates’ safety and moved July Justine Shelby, born William McClain, to a women’s prison in August 2022.
Shelby, 60, had previously been convicted in two separate Indiana state cases of child molestation of a nine-year-old boy and rape of a 17-year-old girl, served 18 years in state prison, then violated parole and was sentenced to 15 years in state prison in 2017 for distributing child porn.
putting this behind spoiler because its sick
Spoiler: (click to show)(click to hide) July Justine Shelby, born William McClain, was convicted on multiple counts of child pornography trafficking after being caught distributing photos of infants being sexually abused.
Shelby was initially arrested in November of 2016 in Indianapolis, Indiana, after being linked to a cellphone found to contain graphic images of child rape. Shelby had been sending the images to another man later identified as a romantic interest of Shelby’s named Beau Thornburgh.
Shelby had met Thornburgh while in prison, and the two had developed a relationship over the course of their 12 years incarcerated together.
Thornburgh was arrested first, and a forensic examination of his devices found a number of communications with Shelby, who appeared to be supplying him with child sexual abuse images. Among the images traced to Shelby was a photo of an adult male sexually abusing an infant, and graphic images of a prepubescent girl
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Federal Prison trans policy
https://www.bop.gov/policy/progstat/5200-08-cn-1.pdf
some other stats I found.....
https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_offenses.jsp
General population in Federal Prison
Sex Offenses 12.7%
Sex Offences in the transwomen pop 47.18%
Last year, the number of federal inmates identifying as transgender increased by 23 percent.
Fuck you Sarah Netburn. And fuck Biden for making me agree with Ted Cruze.
William McClain, I hope you die a slow painful death. I can only hope some officer forgets to secure his cell door at night.
05-23-2024, 07:03 PM
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"Who should we get as historic consultant?"
"Well i just read this really great book about monks banging boys..."
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