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[benji]

Man the most powerful country in the world.....1 candidate is outright evil and has funded a genocide the other is an idiot who caged Children.

World if fucked.

Which one is which in this description?

[benji]

Man the most powerful country in the world.....1 candidate is outright evil and has funded a genocide the other is an idiot who caged Children.

World if fucked.

Which one is which in this description?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Thread backfire starts here:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/netflix-ceo-defends-ai-watching-lawrence-of-arabia-on-a-phone-claims-2-billion-dollar-phenomenon-barbenheimer-would-have-had-same-success-on-netflix.881982/?post=123504603#post-123504603

[Boredfrom]

Has Netflix produced a critically acclaimed movie?

Was about to say Knives Out, but actually their movie was Glass Onion

[Boredfrom]

Why does Excel keep doing this? She went away for a few months just to relapse on the same shit.

[BIONIC]

Incelsheet has been laying mostly dormant for half a year now based on thread-making history. Seems to be making a comeback recently with the shitty melted brain titles though

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Because you just can't quit Twitter (Now called X)

They're not addicted!

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

When Era's LGBTQIA+ white liberals make yet another "TRUMP IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE" thread to try to brow beat HamasEra into voting for Genocide Joe.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Given the state of the thread and it's massive derail, we're locking it.

[kaleidoscopium]

It's just silly to care so much about people in general watching things on various platforms. Who cares?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/netflix-ceo-defends-ai-watching-lawrence-of-arabia-on-a-phone-claims-2-billion-dollar-phenomenon-barbenheimer-would-have-had-same-success-on-netflix.881982/page-2?post=123505518#post-123505518

Yeah it is pretty silly Carl, hope you remember this when the next South Park thread opens up.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Uhm, Clicky.. That's a little chuddie of you. Netflix encourages Dave Chappelle and other anti-woke/anti-trans "comedians". You shouldn't even be using Netflix.

[kaleidoscopium]

Wow, Netflix has blood on their hands. They are “truly Israeli”! Despicable, how could you endorse this genocide like that Carl? 

https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-is-now-truly-israeli-1#

[benji]

Yeah it is pretty silly Carl, hope you remember this when the next South Park thread opens up.

That's what they're watching, not where they're watching it.

Which should be nowhere, hate should not be platformed anywhere.

[Lonewulfeus]

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The difference in those scenarios is you don’t really have an option of contributing, but voting is your contribution and if you choose to abstain you shouldn’t be allowed to whine when the results don’t go the way you want.

you always have an option of contributing, it's all dependent on how much effort you put into it

be like "oh I loved fury road so much, I want to make sure furiosa doesn't flop, if I don't have a hand in the movie then I won't have any right to complain about it so I'm driving down to where they're shooting and insisting on becoming an extra"

"well I could go to mcdonalds or whataburger but since I can't complain unless I have a hand in sandwich creation I'll go to subway instead where I can order the poor sandwich artist to choose specific cuts of meat and cheese that look best to me"



also voting is literally the least you can do and in many states is a pointless act

you're telling me that I could get involved in politics, go to rallies, go door to door bothering people with leaflets, be part of a cold call center, argue endlessly online trying to change hearts and minds, and through all that effort maybe contribute to causing a swing of 5-10 votes one way or the other...but if I don't personally spend my 1 vote, none of the rest of that matters at all?

It would be odd to go through that much other effort and then choose not to vote yourself, but yes given all the other options you’d be allowed to whine as far as I’m concerned.

[Uncle]

then we're just dithering over carbon political offsets, determining precisely how much arguing online is required before you've earned the right to complain

[ComeAgain]

Oh shit excel is back? Had been wondering where the hell she’s been. Script writers working into the summer for our entertainment 

[Orange Juice Box]

Excel 2024 is like when they pull a faltering main-season show halfway though it's run and then show the rest during the summer reruns.

[benji]

In honor of their return enjoy a previously unposted six year old photo of incelsiorlef in the process of ACTING:

Spoiler: more recent, 2021 (click to show)(click to hide)

Anybody got an Instagram account? It looks like just concert photos but you can't see them all without being logged in. Maybe I should make a fake one for better stochastic terrorism.

[NekoFever]

Maybe she was putting time into some alt accounts, building up plausible histories. Any trans Ree characters popped up and established mysterious prominence in the last few months?

[benji]

How dare you claim Twohearts is some kind of incelsiorlef alt instead of a remarkable young lady?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/team-america-world-police-ruined-any-chance-ill-ever-have-of-taking-matt-damon-seriously.882468/

Um, chudbuds? Why is this poster not banned? 

Middle school humor

So this video is just one homophobic slur?

Welcome to Matt and Trey's hilarious humor

They did that because they thought the puppet looked "retarded" and so they started making "retarded noises"
Whenever people do their Team America Matt Damon impressions they're doing what Matt and Trey consider mental retardation. Im not suggesting that you agree with that, but that's the origin story.

Maybe don't use the R-word?

Nah, the movie was surprisingly deep.

I watched it....it wasn't.

PatAndTheCat is dismissing concerns? WOW.

I've always felt that it's similar to Borat - it's not actually making fun of the target country, it's making fun of people who are presented with this nonsense and believe it because they have no real frame of reference. How many people believed that what they were seeing in Borat was really Kazakhstan and Kazakh culture? The joke was ultimately on them and not the Kazakh people.

America had been intervening in the Middle East for decades by this film released, had gone through the Gulf War, 9/11 and held seemingly permanent bases throughout the region. Islamophobia was running high. Some people were going to believe anything that was said of Islam or any of the people or countries of the region. Borat preyed on people's ignorance of a country they knew nothing about by presenting the world the main character came from being the complete opposite of the world Americans knew. Team America isn't quite doing the same thing because it's obvious as fuck that it's being satirical - Borat was just as over the top, but a bit more subtle about it. But they're both making the same joke.

There are plenty of other issues people have with Matt and Trey's humour and so, especially on this forum, people are willing to believe anything negatively said about them. But I really think they weren't being Islamophobic because they're Islamophobic, but took Islamophobia and made a joke out of it. Team America isn't calling their fictional Middle Eastern country Derkaderkastan because Matt and Trey are that stupidly Islamophobic but because some people are, and they find that worthy of being mocked.

I'm guessing this isn't going to be a popular post, but it's what I think.

[Besticus Maximus]

Anyone with an ounce of media literacy would know they were satirising jesse plemmons

[malfoyking]

Imagine thinking that Biden is more “evil” than Trump. And doing this while carrying water for terrorist organizations and theocratic regimes.

Someone on era said this?

[Potato]

Is funny how suddenly RE understands realpolitik in that Iran thread, but they demand the dissolution of Israel in the other threads. Like, isn’t Iran way worse than the Israel government?

How dare you ignore the Muslims for trans rights movement in Iran?

[HardcoreRetro]

I like the Iranian Stonewall movement.

Putting people up against the wall and stoning them to death. Funny misunderstanding.

[kaleidoscopium]

Sacul64 doing gods work, making sure you know that Matt stone and Trey Parker are known transphobes so we shouldn’t give team America world police the benefit of the doubt. Even if the movie has nothing to do with trans at all!  

This is a lot of words for people that currently are still openingly transphobic to explain how this was not open homophobia.

They have shown no signs of improvement in how they handle the trans community repeatedly today to warrant a defense piece that your posting to a site that is supposed to be a safe place for marginalized communities

Yeah but how they act today should influence how you view a price of it's time. And the transphobic hate they spew now reflects directly on homophobic language they used in this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/team-america-world-police-ruined-any-chance-ill-ever-have-of-taking-matt-damon-seriously.882468/page-2?post=123562476#post-123562476

Checkmate, transphobes 

[Eric Cartman]

for some reason I think it's aimed just tu punish more trans youth.

Require teenagers to serve.

Bar trans people from serving.

Trans people who don't serve get punished.

Cruel fucks.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/uk-election-conservative-party-pitches-mandatory-conscription-for-18-year-olds.882183/page-2

Literally the only reason they're floating this is because it would reduce the ONS numbers of NEETs on paper.
Don't worry UK-Era Trans NEETs living off eBegging and Social Security, you would probably get a job posting all over the internet that the BBC is shit and doesn't deserve to be funded by the public, which you're happy to do for free anyway.

[Eric Cartman]

You need to come to terms with the fact that some people's line in the sand is literally "don't support genocide" and they're not going to cast support for that no matter what, in the same way that some people are absolutely not going to vote for Biden because they can't take the time off, or because they have a felonious barrier to voting as a result of our police state (that Biden said we should fund more of, derp), or because they're not in tune with politics and so on and so forth. We have not had a high rate of turnout for generations anyway, so attacking a minority of Arabs over a potential loss instead of the conservative whites who are going to openly cast a vote for Trump is a choice I guess.

You also need to come to terms with the fact that Indigenous, Black, and other minority groups have long since philosophized over whether or not voting for "harm reduction" was even a thing that could be done meaningfully within a colonial state such as the US considering our oppression is eternal and omnipresent, and that the actual thoughts and arguments about the matter are more nuanced than most folks here would give credit for, certainly beyond "just sticking to the man." Because- let's be real here- no one on this board will ever be as politically meaningful or relevant as Malcolm X was who hated Democrats too and didn't vote for them. So again, let's stop denigrating a subset of political argument as only the purview of idiot progressives.

Once you get that out of the way, and you are able to engage with the fact that humans are complicated, emotional, and have different lived perspectives than you do that are just as valid as yours, and that not everone who thinks differently than you is an asshole who secretly hates minorities, you can contend with the fact that there are nonetheless plenty of folks out there who can be assuaged to vote for Biden, or at least vote downticket, if they are angry or unsure. This requires talking to them and listening to them, and empathizing with their stories and anger. You might find, shockingly enough, how easy it is to find common ground on a whole host of matters, even from people who you consider your political opposite, because what is being missed is that we all suffer under this system of colonial capitalism, and thus a lot of folks are able to name the same symptoms even if they misdiagnose the issue.

So, if I were in a hypothetical conversation with, like, a Palestinian American who said that they weren't going to vote at all because they lost people in the genocide, first of all, I would validate that. I wouldn't tell them to "put their anger aside" and "stop being selfish." I would probably apologize for what has happened to them. Hell, if this was in real life I might give them a hug. You know, treat them like a person who just fucking lost their family? Once we get past the part where I have an ethical duty to empathize with another human being outside of trying to convince them to do something that I want them to do, and we get back on track, I would probably route the conversation onto a list of Democrats who are absolutely against the genocide, and to tell them to vote downticket for these guys instead. I would also probably emphasize that voting locally and downticket is an extremely helpful and underrated way of staving off Republican fuckery. We have sancutary cities for a reason. So, even if in that one conversation, hopefully one of many, I would be unable to get them to vote for Biden, I just nonetheless got them in the voting booth.

This is how you actually build allies and coalitions. And if we're truly facing down an existential threat to America itself, you're going to need all the allies you can get.

In general, the best advice I can give to folks who are angry at minorities who have genocide as their line in the sand, is to- at no point- denigrate these people. For one, you know fuck all about them. You're a terminally-online gamer on a message board; I know good and goddamn well you are not out here talking to minorities in your community in real life. Human interaction with strangers, stranger who could have guns no less? Yeah, you're not doing it. For two, you're supposed to protect them; that's the liberal agenda, right? That you- to some degree- try to stand up for the most vulnerable? Well, you know what doesn't scream that you care for the vulnerable? Calling a Palestinian selfish for not wanting to vote for someone who enabled the killing of their people. Like, at some point, you have to admit the optics of these shaming methods are shit and only lends to the belief that liberals only care about minorities within the confines of the moral battle with conservatives, and that our issues are liable to be dropped the moment they become politically inconvenient.

Some extra advice I would give is to focus on the pressure points and potential voters that actually matter, instead of raging about the people you may have lost. The horrific reality is that despite 4K images of what is going on in Gaza, most Americans still do not actually care about it in comparison to issues like the economy. I'm a bit contentious in some of my circles in the fact that I still don't think Biden will actually lose based on Gaza because it doesn't seem like the numbers are there this far out for that to be the case. Which makes sense. America doesn't care about Brown people. But they do care about being able to eat. We all do; hell, I'm hungry right now. Use that as the inroad to help in the discourse and on the campaign trail to gain voters, instead of shitting on people who you already might have lost due to this issue.

Also, we are still half a year out from the election itself. We have no idea what the fuck is going to happen. Trump might get a felony conviction, at which case it is literally sealed for Biden if polling is correct. The debates might throw things in Biden's favor. Trump might keep having gaffes like that libertarian convention. Hell, one or both of them might fucking die this year because of their age. Keep calm and focus on the votes you can gain without continuously letting it slip that the relevancy of minorities' issues is only in service of the realpolitik, and not as a general principle of moral good.

 

wow, pretty convenient you now have a great excuse to not vote but act like spouting shit online is the superior ethical choice, the thing you were planning on doing anyway.

Because- let's be real here- no one on this board will ever be as politically meaningful or relevant as Malcolm X was who hated Democrats too and didn't vote for them.

Literally everyone on the board who votes is enacting more politically meaningful change than getting TKed with a shotgun

[Eric Cartman]

Strange how they go to bat for a religious group that literally is against them, but hate other religions / beliefs that aren't.

It makes no fucking sense. These people would want to execute you and throw you off a fucking building, yet you're defending them. LGBT people defending Islam makes my brain break.

Its pretty obvious who the bad guys are, because one side is like daddys lawyer who denied me my trust fund payments that one time, and the other are like that lovely uber driver with the turban we took one time, who im pretty sure is an islam

[Eric Cartman]

Cheyenne Lin: "The Liberal Comedian to Conservative Pipeline"

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cheyenne-lin-the-liberal-comedian-to-conservative-pipeline.881655/

When I saw the title of this new breadtube essay, I thought it would be about Dave Rubin or Jimmy Dore, but it's about the likes of Sasha Baron Cowen, Amy Shumer and Tina Fey 
Apparently making a joke that someone somewhere found offensive is enough to be labeled conservative.

On the plus side, only 38 minutes!

All these comedians have gone conservative. It’s definitely not that we’ve gone off the deep end in the other direction.

A lot of people have been gunning for Jerry Seinfeld recently because he outright stated extremist left wokescolds are ruining comedy with a hecklers veto, and he is about the cleanest least edgy act there is so its not because he doesn't get to say the slurs in his routine he secretly wants to.

His golden ticket comedy project was a fucking film about pop tarts.

[Eric Cartman]

I watched Civil War the other night and I really question Era's media literacy. The all but named the president, and pretty explicitly told you he was a fascist.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-watched-a-garlands-civil-war-how-fucked-would-the-world-be-if-the-u-s-ever-fell-into-one.882402/?post=123547338#post-123547338

It'd be pretty bad.

But nothing like in that both side nonsense movie.

It really needed the fat president in a wig and fake tan to turn to the camera and go "Fine, I'll do it myself" and then get into a Mech a la Metal Wolf Chaos