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[Boredfrom]

A necrobump:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-call-of-dutys-trans-bullets-are-the-latest-right-wing-conspiracy-rage-bait.890577/page-3?post=124352583#post-124352583

What a bunch of sad, angry, losers.

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aoc-calls-out-and-condemns-the-antisemitism-last-night-outside-the-nova-festival-exhibit.898584/page-2?post=124348212#post-124348212

User banned (1 month): concern trolling and misrepresenting other users in a sensitive thread

The hamas attack was bad.

But

He actually did that thing. Zero self awareness. Amazing.

[benji]

Why do my rigid slogans keep failing to supply real world actionable philosophy or even just nuance?

[benji]

All I wanted was to make violence by people I like always justified and people I don't like always wrong but now people keep asking me about slaughtering innocents, "sex slavery" or extermination of ethnicities! 

[benji]

Like don't they realize I support Hamas because of their skin color and the norms of American progressive culture, not like anything to do with what they might actually want if it differs from me?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aoc-calls-out-and-condemns-the-antisemitism-last-night-outside-the-nova-festival-exhibit.898584/page-2?post=124349934#post-124349934

  User banned (1 month): dismissing antisemitism

Israel is using the October 7 attack, which was indeed horrific, to justify it's ongoing onslaught in Gaza.
With this backdrop, organizing an exhibit on the events of that day seems very cynical, or at least out of place considering that thousands of people are still being slaughtered as a result of this event.
Antisemitism is horrible, but backlash against this exhibit is understandable and justified as far as I'm concerned.

I think Israel should maybe chill the fuck out as much as the next guy but anyone who calls Oct 7th an “event” is a vile cunt.

Why does this person seem confused about Israel using the October 7 attack to justify its ongoing military action in Gaza?

Of course they are, BECAUSE IT IS JUSTIFIED! There are still hostages being held in Gaza as a result of that attack. Any other country would find this a justification for continuing the military action too.

Hamas should simply hand over the hostages and commit to stopping the ongoing attacks against Israel.

[benji]

Why does this person seem confused about Israel using the October 7 attack to justify its ongoing military action in Gaza?

Of course they are, BECAUSE IT IS JUSTIFIED! There are still hostages being held in Gaza as a result of that attack. Any other country would find this a justification for continuing the military action too.

Hamas should simply hand over the hostages and commit to stopping the ongoing attacks against Israel.

That's what I love about these people. If you're saying it's not justified then you're arguing for terrorism because you're arguing for a moral framework in which you concede to do whatever terrorists demand.

This doesn't mean Israel can't go too far, that Israel can't make wrong choices about how to respond, etc. The U.S. after 9/11 was the same thing, launching a Global War on Terror and passing things like the Patriot Act may have been a terrible response or just unwise for numerous reasons but it was still a justified response. al Qaeda had literally declared war on the U.S. and had attacked it multiple times by then and the U.S. had already responded in different ways (establishing sanctions, doing federal prosecutions, bombing random buildings, ignoring the bombing of a naval ship, etc.) so that escalation was a justified response to a problem that wasn't going away. (Especially since the U.S. couldn't give al Qaeda what it wanted.)

They're basically refusing to divorce their moral position (Palestinians are always justified) from Hamas' specifics (Jews go away by any means necessary) so their cognitive dissonance results in justifying terrorism and arguing that the response to terrorism should be concession to terrorists. But Israel can't do this because even if it took the position of never again killing any Palestinians that doesn't meet Hamas' demands for what they need to do.

If they don't take Nepenthe's position that they need to "go back where they belong" and so oppose Israel's right to exist at all, then they're logically forced into tacitly adopting that position as correct even if they don't want to because they can't distinguish between the interests of Hamas and anyone else in Palestine. In their moral framework the good guys are always completely good therefore completely morally justified and the bad guys are always top to bottom bad, never right or honest or truthful about anything and just out to do evil because it's their nature. But you don't need to do this, you can just reject Hamas as the legitimate expression of Palestinians. In that last election held 18 years ago they only got 44%, that means 56% of Palestinian voters didn't vote for the more moderate framing of a Hamas that was promising to stop doing terrorism but wink wink totally going to keep up "resistance" until the land is free from the river to the sea.

You especially don't need to presume that Palestinians want the brutal slaughter of Israelis, and doing so is a little fucking gross to assume about other humans. "I'm seeing them for who they really are!" Yeah, okay, you're definitely the basic human decency guy in this conversation.

[benji]

You really don't have to back someone on everything to support them or be loyal. It's more supportive and more loyal if you tell them when they're wrong so they don't do wrong things. And being wrong doesn't mean you have to withdraw support completely and shun them forever. When someone you like does something wrong you can criticize them for it. When someone you don't like does something right you can praise them for it. You never have to change your overall opinion about either. This seems like common sense but apparently not.

These are the types of people who would be harsh about someone saying "my country right or wrong, my country." Yet they do this exact thing for seemingly everything, companies, family members, YouTube channels, non-prominent forum members, etc.

And this is really what I'd like The Bire to be about. That mentality isn't healthy. Things are not this serious. Trying to compel everyone to adopt that mentality is not a good thing to do. Escalating everything to a cosmic existential crisis about the essence of our souls doesn't actually help you get to Heaven, it just expands the size of your outgroup.

[benji]

Why does this person seem confused about Israel using the October 7 attack to justify its ongoing military action in Gaza?

Of course they are, BECAUSE IT IS JUSTIFIED! There are still hostages being held in Gaza as a result of that attack. Any other country would find this a justification for continuing the military action too.

Hamas should simply hand over the hostages and commit to stopping the ongoing attacks against Israel.

That's what I love about these people. If you're saying it's not justified then you're arguing for terrorism because you're arguing for a moral framework in which you concede to do whatever terrorists demand.

This doesn't mean Israel can't go too far, that Israel can't make wrong choices about how to respond, etc. The U.S. after 9/11 was the same thing, launching a Global War on Terror and passing things like the Patriot Act may have been a terrible response or just unwise for numerous reasons but it was still a justified response. al Qaeda had literally declared war on the U.S. and had attacked it multiple times by then and the U.S. had already responded in different ways (establishing sanctions, doing federal prosecutions, bombing random buildings, ignoring the bombing of a naval ship, etc.) so that escalation was a justified response to a problem that wasn't going away. (Especially since the U.S. couldn't give al Qaeda what it wanted.)

They're basically refusing to divorce their moral position (Palestinians are always justified) from Hamas' specifics (Jews go away by any means necessary) so their cognitive dissonance results in justifying terrorism and arguing that the response to terrorism should be concession to terrorists. But Israel can't do this because even if it took the position of never again killing any Palestinians that doesn't meet Hamas' demands for what they need to do.

If they don't take Nepenthe's position that they need to "go back where they belong" and so oppose Israel's right to exist at all, then they're logically forced into tacitly adopting that position as correct even if they don't want to because they can't distinguish between the interests of Hamas and anyone else in Palestine. In their moral framework the good guys are always completely good therefore completely morally justified and the bad guys are always top to bottom bad, never right or honest or truthful about anything and just out to do evil because it's their nature. But you don't need to do this, you can just reject Hamas as the legitimate expression of Palestinians. In that last election held 18 years ago they only got 44%, that means 56% of Palestinian voters didn't vote for the more moderate framing of a Hamas that was promising to stop doing terrorism but wink wink totally going to keep up "resistance" until the land is free from the river to the sea.

You especially don't need to presume that Palestinians want the brutal slaughter of Israelis, and doing so is a little fucking gross to assume about other humans. "I'm seeing them for who they really are!" Yeah, okay, you're definitely the basic human decency guy in this conversation.

You really don't have to back someone on everything to support them or be loyal. It's more supportive and more loyal if you tell them when they're wrong so they don't do wrong things. And being wrong doesn't mean you have to withdraw support completely and shun them forever. When someone you like does something wrong you can criticize them for it. When someone you don't like does something right you can praise them for it. You never have to change your overall opinion about either. This seems like common sense but apparently not.

These are the types of people who would be harsh about someone saying "my country right or wrong, my country." Yet they do this exact thing for seemingly everything, companies, family members, YouTube channels, non-prominent forum members, etc.

And this is really what I'd like The Bire to be about. That mentality isn't healthy. Things are not this serious. Trying to compel everyone to adopt that mentality is not a good thing to do. Escalating everything to a cosmic existential crisis about the essence of our souls doesn't actually help you get to Heaven, it just expands the size of your outgroup.

  

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[Nintex]

Nep on Resetera.....

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Nep on the streets.....

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Nep in the sheets

[Besticus Maximus]

They're just a bunch of bloodthirsty cunts, it comes across in their posts and it might not even necessarily just be about jews, it might be that this is the internet valve that releases all their pent up self-hatred and destructive ideation fuelled by their physical incapability of changing their direct circumstances.

The shifting line on how much jew hate is cool and supported by the leadership in the last 12 months is indicative of how much of this is a tidal see-saw of groupthink.

[Polident]

They're just a bunch of bloodthirsty cunts, it comes across in their posts and it might not even necessarily just be about jews, it might be that this is the internet valve that releases all their pent up self-hatred and destructive ideation fuelled by their physical incapability of changing their direct circumstances.

The shifting line on how much jew hate is cool and supported by the leadership in the last 12 months is indicative of how much of this is a tidal see-saw of groupthink.

It’s largely indiscernible from how they spoke about whites and asians and other groups. I mean, look at the discourse over if jews are white, therefore making it okay to hate. The far right has the same conversations from the other direction.

[Boredfrom]

Okay no. Let's not do this. Bi woman and no I don't like the playersexual way of game romance. I find it forces out gay and lesbian characters from being important NPCs (and no the "They can be gay in someone else's story" isn't good) and reduces bisexually to just a simple mechanic and that we and pan people only exist for the power fantasies of others; that our stories and issues don't matter.

I'm honestly beyond sick a tired of being told a game has good bi representation when in reality it's just another one of these playersexual games that are so cowardly, they will never ever actually say the word bisexual or pansexual because that would be one step too far. Bi people are not just mechanic for other people's pleasure, a reward for "winning" us. We have our own damn preferences and wants, no all bi women want or are interested in men no matter how much you unwantedly flirt or declare online how much you think your "owed" us (dear fuck some of the awful shit I saw about Mass Effect's Samara for crime of saying no in ME2 and base ME3).

Why are bi stories like Bi erasure and the many issues bi people, both in and out of the LGBTQ+ community not allowed to be told in these RPGs, that allowing bi issues to be discussed would "ruin" people's experiences. Why is it always "Choice (aka my power fantasy) is more important then those stories", basically erasing us to just dolls. Why can't bi and pan people actually call ourselves bi and pan in these games... Oh wait, I know why; that would make the straights to uncomfortable and ruin their power fantasy wouldn't it? No better to allow the straights to pretend these characters aren't REALLY bi and pan in their story, we'll still be called progressive anyway!

And quite bluntly, fuck your power fantasies and "choices". I'm beyond sick of RPG games being shallow because of that, including BG3. Quite bluntly it's beyond high time games flat out made it clear that no means no, you're not owed a woman just because your nice to them, that you can't just force someone to romance you, that people have their own boundaries and sexual and romance preferences, including bi and pan and they should be damn respected and no everything is centred around you (not you TheDkmariolink to be clear, but you the hypothetical player). That sometime relationships don't work out and that's fine, that your actions have consequences that don't just go because you keep buying someone gifts. That not all women think sex is important in a relationship et etc etc.

To me that is way more mature and actual roleplaying then the constant power fantasy where the player gets everything they want and never have to face of the real issues of relationship and boundaries ever. I want ace people to exist, I want actual bi, pan and lesbian stories where those words aren't hidden away.

What a fucking liar.  

No, you don’t want “true and honest” bisexual and lesbians stories, you want your fetishes cater on. You love your power fantasies, but you want a pretty specific one. And all of this would be fair if YOU DIDNT BITCH ABOUT BEING ALL INCLUSIVE ALL OR NOTHING. You know why BioWare romances are dull? Because they need to cater to their weird all inclusive obsessed fanbase while avoiding minefields.

You, the dude that makes threads about favorite fetish characters and has an avatar with favs, suddenly is bitching about “virtual dolls”. Get the fuck out of here.

[Boredfrom]

Also, this creepy part:

We have our own damn preferences and wants, no all bi women want or are interested in men no matter how much you unwantedly flirt or declare online how much you think your "owed" us

[Polident]

Didn’t read, but scrolling down I caught the usual “I I I me me me my my my” language in it. There’s something admirable to these guys staying egomaniacally resilient after a lifetime hearing “no” and “I don’t care” and “get away from me or I’ll call the cops”.

[HaughtyFrank]

Weird that they're only making it about the evil straights. Like I'm pretty sure I've seen people on Resetera complain that Cassandra could only be romanced by men.

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aoc-calls-out-and-condemns-the-antisemitism-last-night-outside-the-nova-festival-exhibit.898584/page-2?post=124354806#post-124354806

that one was propaganda though or it was the one with BBC. let's also not pretend that media and govorments, especially Israel and its supporters blatantly lie and play into the hands of anti-semites collecting the huge masses like in the incident mentioned in the op.

That's right. Jews control the media. Look at Hollywood.   

[Snoopy]

no all bi women want or are interested in men

I think if you're going to larp as a bi you should at least understand the basics. I used to think it was unlikely that all the ree "trans" were only attracted to women. Then I realized they were a bunch of homophobic incels trying to run from their shameful pasts.

[Polident]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/aoc-calls-out-and-condemns-the-antisemitism-last-night-outside-the-nova-festival-exhibit.898584/page-2?post=124354806#post-124354806

that one was propaganda though or it was the one with BBC. let's also not pretend that media and govorments, especially Israel and its supporters blatantly lie and play into the hands of anti-semites collecting the huge masses like in the incident mentioned in the op.

That's right. Jews control the media. Look at Hollywood.   

One of the ways the far right are more consistent. They too believe the jews control the media, and all the diversity and gay is their attempt to subvert the whites. The far left believe the jews control the media and the only time “they” flex their influence is silencing palestine news. Both are schizophrenic on their own ways. At least both groups can rely on Qatari media for coverage of palestine, no diversity, and no gays.

[benji]

Okay no. Let's not do this. Bi woman and no I don't like the playersexual way of game romance. I find it forces out gay and lesbian characters from being important NPCs (and no the "They can be gay in someone else's story" isn't good) and reduces bisexually to just a simple mechanic and that we and pan people only exist for the power fantasies of others; that our stories and issues don't matter.

I'm honestly beyond sick a tired of being told a game has good bi representation when in reality it's just another one of these playersexual games that are so cowardly, they will never ever actually say the word bisexual or pansexual because that would be one step too far. Bi people are not just mechanic for other people's pleasure, a reward for "winning" us. We have our own damn preferences and wants, no all bi women want or are interested in men no matter how much you unwantedly flirt or declare online how much you think your "owed" us (dear fuck some of the awful shit I saw about Mass Effect's Samara for crime of saying no in ME2 and base ME3).

Why are bi stories like Bi erasure and the many issues bi people, both in and out of the LGBTQ+ community not allowed to be told in these RPGs, that allowing bi issues to be discussed would "ruin" people's experiences. Why is it always "Choice (aka my power fantasy) is more important then those stories", basically erasing us to just dolls. Why can't bi and pan people actually call ourselves bi and pan in these games... Oh wait, I know why; that would make the straights to uncomfortable and ruin their power fantasy wouldn't it? No better to allow the straights to pretend these characters aren't REALLY bi and pan in their story, we'll still be called progressive anyway!

And quite bluntly, fuck your power fantasies and "choices". I'm beyond sick of RPG games being shallow because of that, including BG3. Quite bluntly it's beyond high time games flat out made it clear that no means no, you're not owed a woman just because your nice to them, that you can't just force someone to romance you, that people have their own boundaries and sexual and romance preferences, including bi and pan and they should be damn respected and no everything is centred around you (not you TheDkmariolink to be clear, but you the hypothetical player). That sometime relationships don't work out and that's fine, that your actions have consequences that don't just go because you keep buying someone gifts. That not all women think sex is important in a relationship et etc etc.

To me that is way more mature and actual roleplaying then the constant power fantasy where the player gets everything they want and never have to face of the real issues of relationship and boundaries ever. I want ace people to exist, I want actual bi, pan and lesbian stories where those words aren't hidden away.

The world's most convoluted way of saying "sometimes the player character's interests should be rejected by the NPC's."

[JoeBoy101]

One of the most common mods from RPGs like this are making straight players able to romance gay characters. And the other way around. BioWare just decided to forgoe the nonsense and let the player love/seggs anyone.

What should be an ideal answer on paper and will satisfy the large majority (straight, gay,and otherwise), is obviously going to incense these particular weirdos.

Their entire identity is what they classify themselves as. They have no confidence or love for themselves, so they make their identity singular for whatever tag they attribute to themselves. What’s even dumber is that identity has no consistency and shifts based on what they think will give them, specifically they’re “suffering”, more validation.

It’s pitiful if I’m honest. They don’t want to live in their own personal space, know their minds or even attempt to love their bodies. They just demand people tell them how special/brave/important/beautiful they are, even as they themselves don’t believe it at their core.

[JoeBoy101]

One of the most common mods from RPGs like this are making straight players able to romance gay characters. And the other way around. BioWare just decided to forgoe the nonsense and let the player live anyone.

What should be an ideal answer on paper and will satisfy the large majority (straight, gay,and otherwise), is obviously going to incense these particular weirdos.

Their entire identity is what they classify themselves as. They have no confidence or love for themselves, so they make their identity singular for whatever tag they attribute to themselves. What’s even dumber is that identity had no consistency and shifts based on what they think will give them, specifically they’re “suffering”, more validation.

It’s pitiful if I’m honest. They don’t want to live in their own personal space, know their minds or even attempt to love their bodies. They just demand people tell them how special/brave/important/beautiful they are, even as they themselves don’t believe it at their core.

[kaleidoscopium]

The reason I made this thread, though, is because when I was little, I was terrible at Secret of Mana's combat. The game came out in 1993, and I was 8 when it released

https://www.resetera.com/threads/90s-rpg-fans-did-you-suck-at-secret-of-mana.898992/?post=124361265#post-124361265

Meaning planetsmasher was born in 85, making him 39 years old… 

[RetiredSkunk]

The reason I made this thread, though, is because when I was little, I was terrible at Secret of Mana's combat. The game came out in 1993, and I was 8 when it released

https://www.resetera.com/threads/90s-rpg-fans-did-you-suck-at-secret-of-mana.898992/?post=124361265#post-124361265

Meaning planetsmasher was born in 85, making him 39 years old… 

Never too young for that big break in his local comedy scene!

[Uncle]

One of the most common mods from RPGs like this are making straight players able to romance gay characters. And the other way around. BioWare just decided to forgoe the nonsense and let the player live anyone.

What should be an ideal answer on paper and will satisfy the large majority (straight, gay,and otherwise), is obviously going to incense these particular weirdos.

Their entire identity is what they classify themselves as. They have no confidence or love for themselves, so they make their identity singular for whatever tag they attribute to themselves. What’s even dumber is that identity had no consistency and shifts based on what they think will give them, specifically they’re “suffering”, more validation.

It’s pitiful if I’m honest. They don’t want to live in their own personal space, know their minds or even attempt to love their bodies. They just demand people tell them how special/brave/important/beautiful they are, even as they themselves don’t believe it at their core.

they don't realize that not giving a fuck and just being yourself is often incredibly attractive to others, since that means confidence

they try to present themselves as catering to ever more insular niches, trying to find someone who will love THAT version of them if they just simp hard enough...and pathetically enough sometimes they run into others doing the exact same thing, and end up in this ridiculous larp where both parties are lying to themselves and their partner, roleplaying the entire relationship, hoping that they can fake it until they actually believe their own bullshit 

if you choose not to care so much, not to put that achievement on a pedestal and refuse to grind for it, you're more likely than ever to attain it

[Shecky Fragbaum]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-happens-after-you-hit-one-of-those-big-lottos.898722/
Slayven

Like you hit that power ball and win 300 mill? We know lump sump take home is less and the tax man going to get his cut, so you take hom about 150 million flat. Do you just have them wire it to your account? Do you have to go to a special bank or something? Do they have people that help you with it?

I picture one of Slayven's broken English teachers standing on a guard rail high over the center of a river, tears streaming, taking one final look back at the pavement only to notice a line has formed of familiar faces from the math and civics departments. 

"Some time today, lady?!"

[Besticus Maximus]

I'm tired of my videogame AI companions never commenting on my breasts growing in even and I've been posting as a waifu since before the PS5 launch 

[killamajig]

no all bi women want or are interested in men

I think if you're going to larp as a bi you should at least understand the basics. I used to think it was unlikely that all the ree "trans" were only attracted to women. Then I realized they were a bunch of homophobic incels trying to run from their shameful pasts.

Words hold mo meaning to these turds.

Bi
Woman
Genocide

I'd love to slap them with a big ol' Oxford dictionary.

[killamajig]

I think we have reached the point where they do want a trans-lesbian-black-wheelchair bound-depressd-SJW or bust.

If thats not a option it's worth doxxing people now.

[Uncle]

I think we have reached the point where they do want a trans-lesbian-black-wheelchair bound-depressd-SJW or bust.

If thats not a option it's worth doxxing people now.

I wonder if you could make this as satire, without doing anything too disrespectful or insulting that would get you removed from platforms 

enough that you could say "what?? I just took the advice from storyspark, I made a perfectly representative game and also hired a diversity consultant. No I will not name the company, I don't want them to get harassed by chuds. Isn't this what you wanted??"