Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Daffy Duck]

Wait, there’s an image of Fat4All out there?

I appreciate what you do Benji for the reasons you’ve stated.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-a-poor-what-can-i-do-to-%E2%80%98give-back%E2%80%99-to-my-rich-sister.689110/

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[benji]

Wait, there’s an image of Fat4All out there?

He's posted some selfies on Threads, I put two of them in a spoiler here: https://thebore.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=3&pid=69360#pid69360

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-376#post-126809310

'Nine UNRWA staff members were possibly involved in attack on Israel, UN says'

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nine-unrwa-staff-may-have-been-involved-oct-7-attack-israel-says-un-2024-08-05/

[benji]

I really don't think being Romani informs Dr. Doom's character at all. His being specifically Latverian is far more important. When were his parents oppressed for being Romani? And when was any of this central to his character? Wasn't his mom murdered for being a literal witch? Aren't his beefs with other Latverian tribes?

edit: If you search his Wikipedia page it only shows up in one place on the entire massively long page.

[Propagandhim]

It's funny, because they're not even talking about whether Dr Doom being Romani matters...it's a Romani actor they want to represent him that they think matters.  It's even more nonsensical.

[benji]

Doom 2099 probably does way more with the Romani stuff and even there it's just an excuse to explain why he can do magic, they never even use it to explain why he gives a shit about Latveria.

[benji]

Why would you even want to represent a power mad dictator who hates his people and wants to punish them as preparation for his mad schemes for the entire globe with "proper" ethnicity?

[Green Jupiter]

Let me address this for myself and myself only. I do not post this stuff to mock them for it, I'm not going to mock fat4all for the way he looks, I have no reason to mock Kyuuji for being ginger, etc. This is about critiquing social power.

If after I post this stuff people mock Melody for the way he looks rather than his expanding mass of Gundams or Nepenthe for her being a furry rather than her lack of dignified life at that house, I'm not going to police that and say this is about undermining their power so everybody needs to back my agenda.

I'm also not under the illusion that the true believers are going to run screaming because they see the real person, I'm not a revolutionary. But there's a constant permanent effect when you read IrishNinja's violent nonsense and remember what he looks like and how his real life is. Extrapolate this across the members.

If anything, Melody is clearly better than these people. He's putting himself out there as he is. He's not hiding, trying to cover his tracks and protect his history from being used against him as they use any tiny thing against anyone else. Look how fast Kyuuji tried to hide his connection to a single YouTube account and probably would have done the rest if he could. Look at Nepenthe's reaction to the first time she noticed something that had been posted before that she only noticed because people were critiquing her anti-semitism and pro-genocide posts. Look at Bobby Robert's reaction to the fact that people were simply talking about things he posted under his own real name and was himself proud of saying. These things matter within the context of the commentary that is uncovering them.

If you are attempting to leverage your identity to obtain power over others it matters that you're being dishonest and lying. Melody's funny because he's so fucking inept at this and yet he comes back every week asking for more food donations and hinting at suicide. His power exists only because of the hegemonic structure established by people like Kyuuji and Nepenthe. And that's the critique embedded in uncovering the truth of such members, it matters that you're trying to control what others can perceive about what you're using as justification for your power.

Also this. And even more to me, the fact that others there are too cowed or too complicit to do it. Especially not publicly.

That said, if members continue to complain (either directly through posts or through the likes on those posts which I am not ignoring, I'm aware my position is strongly a minority one on here) I will continue to consider other ways of doing this. One thing I have to reject is creating a private section where it is done because that is what they do. I believe there is value in The Bire being public and not only easily seen but easily confronted just by signing up. The fact that a person refuses to engage their critics and instead only smears them where they feel safe from the critics is telling about their character. Since it was brought up, I believe Kiwi Farms is an excellent example of this when you look at the people who have chosen to engage them directly, like Caroline Farrow who is the first declared-lolcow who did it I could think of immediately, rather than try to encourage off-site mobs to find ways to prevent it from existing through false accusations and criminal behavior.

This may be a discussion that warrants its own thread rather than litigated in here.

I appreciate the principle behind it. It's an angle I hadn't really thought about.

I guess I'm a bit soft and the fact that it's pre-transition Kyuuji 2077 is jarring. It moves the odds from 1% to 0% that their kind would ever actually engage publicly. Didn't Tyler the Creator Molester himself occasionally pop by here to try and clap back?

They want so badly for their critics to be the chuds they shadowbox on a daily basis. Just the simple posting of a pic of when they identified as male, despite follow up posts just being "huh normal dude" or "ginger", is enough for them to paint anyone who points out the retarded shit they spout as Trans Genociders.

Anyway,
 
Too soft for The Bire


Too cool for Ree

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Too fucking scared of The Farms

[TylenolJones]

Who broke the rule of not poking the zoo animals?

Fun story: I received a DM yesterday that simply said, "Are you Jewish?"

Looked at their timeline and it was nothing but replying to random people with stuff like "You're a Jew" or simply "Jew" alongside Holocaust conspiracy theories and other horrific shit.

Reported about 10 separate tweets and the DM. Got this response:

We're writing to let you know that we didn't find the content you reported to be in violation of our rules. We know this is disappointing to hear, as you had a reason to report in the first place.

We seek to consider context and to see the full picture before deciding whether reported content or accounts violate our rules. Sometimes an isolated comment in a broader conversation—or an opinion which differs extremely from yours, may not cross the line into violation.

I wonder why advertisers are leaving? How strange!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-tw𝕏tt𝕏r-dr𝕏m𝕏-𝕏t-let’s-keep-it-here-parody-🔵-official-ꕤ.649272/page-1075#post-126805839

[Hap Shaughnessy]

 
Too soft for The Bire


Too cool for Ree

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Too fucking scared of The Farms

[No. 1 Boss Jocker]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/explain-what%E2%80%99s-on-your-avatar-and-why-did-you-choose-it.943815/post-126705666

Booshka

Just a selfie I liked and stuck with it.

It is him. Self dox.

Massive serial killer vibes

I'd always thought that Booshka's avatar was one of the knife throwing brothers from Octopussy, Mishka or Grishka. Now I feel a bit silly.

If that's his real pic he's a decent looking guy, why does he spend so much time involved in all this resetera nonsense

[benji]

They want so badly for their critics to be the chuds they shadowbox on a daily basis. Just the simple posting of a pic of when they identified as male, despite follow up posts just being "huh normal dude" or "ginger", is enough for them to paint anyone who points out the retarded shit they spout as Trans Genociders.

You'll forgive me for trusting the good faith of a community that pre-emptively banned me from joining it even while they were proclaiming an amnesty for everyone purely because I only ever engaged with ideas/arguments and not the person. This has been a well known hate site that tries to get people murdered for years before I ever started to pretend to accept their rules of engagement.

edit: This does not mean I am not interested in finding an accommodating compromise with our members.

[Uncle]

Let me address this for myself and myself only. I do not post this stuff to mock them for it, I'm not going to mock fat4all for the way he looks, I have no reason to mock Kyuuji for being ginger, etc. This is about critiquing social power.

If after I post this stuff people mock Melody for the way he looks rather than his expanding mass of Gundams or Nepenthe for her being a furry rather than her lack of dignified life at that house, I'm not going to police that and say this is about undermining their power so everybody needs to back my agenda.

I'm also not under the illusion that the true believers are going to run screaming because they see the real person, I'm not a revolutionary. But there's a constant permanent effect when you read IrishNinja's violent nonsense and remember what he looks like and how his real life is. Extrapolate this across the members.

If anything, Melody is clearly better than these people. He's putting himself out there as he is. He's not hiding, trying to cover his tracks and protect his history from being used against him as they use any tiny thing against anyone else. Look how fast Kyuuji tried to hide his connection to a single YouTube account and probably would have done the rest if he could. Look at Nepenthe's reaction to the first time she noticed something that had been posted before that she only noticed because people were critiquing her anti-semitism and pro-genocide posts. Look at Bobby Robert's reaction to the fact that people were simply talking about things he posted under his own real name and was himself proud of saying. These things matter within the context of the commentary that is uncovering them.

If you are attempting to leverage your identity to obtain power over others it matters that you're being dishonest and lying. Melody's funny because he's so fucking inept at this and yet he comes back every week asking for more food donations and hinting at suicide. His power exists only because of the hegemonic structure established by people like Kyuuji and Nepenthe. And that's the critique embedded in uncovering the truth of such members, it matters that you're trying to control what others can perceive about what you're using as justification for your power.

Resetera is infuriating because you can't just call someone out on their bullshit.

Also this. And even more to me, the fact that others there are too cowed or too complicit to do it. Especially not publicly.

That said, if members continue to complain (either directly through posts or through the likes on those posts which I am not ignoring, I'm aware my position is strongly a minority one on here) I will continue to consider other ways of doing this. One thing I have to reject is creating a private section where it is done because that is what they do. I believe there is value in The Bire being public and not only easily seen but easily confronted just by signing up. The fact that a person refuses to engage their critics and instead only smears them where they feel safe from the critics is telling about their character. Since it was brought up, I believe Kiwi Farms is an excellent example of this when you look at the people who have chosen to engage them directly, like Caroline Farrow who is the first declared-lolcow who did it I could think of immediately, rather than try to encourage off-site mobs to find ways to prevent it from existing through false accusations and criminal behavior.

This may be a discussion that warrants its own thread rather than litigated in here.

agree with all of this

I don't know if I've strongly mocked people for their appearance in the past, if I have, whatever I'll be a hypocrite

the recent kyuuji meme was about cyberpunk and pretending to be something you're not, not lol ugly ginger

nothing wrong with posting publicly-obtained information, it's what you do with it that matters

[killamajig]

They love to dig through other peoples trash, but if it's done to them it's not fair.

And they mock the shit out of peoples apperances they don't like.

[killamajig]

Wait, there’s an image of Fat4All out there?

He's posted some selfies on Threads, I put two of them in a spoiler here: https://thebore.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=3&pid=69360#pid69360

He looks like Ricky Gervais as Derek with that under bite.

[benji]

They love to dig through other peoples trash, but if it's done to them it's not fair.

And they mock the shit out of peoples apperances they don't like.

Even though this objection to me has not been voiced, I do believe there is tremendous value in being better than your opponents. This is perhaps the best argument against my illegal murderdoxing behavior. Even, maybe especially, against my attempted self-interested defense that I am targeting part of their argument not them personally.

[nachobro]

I'd always thought that Booshka's avatar was one of the knife throwing brothers from Octopussy, Mishka or Grishka. Now I feel a bit silly.

If that's his real pic he's a decent looking guy, why does he spend so much time involved in all this resetera nonsense

cause he's a dumb biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiaaaatch

[killamajig]

They love to dig through other peoples trash, but if it's done to them it's not fair.

And they mock the shit out of peoples apperances they don't like.

Even though this objection to me has not been voiced, I do believe there is tremendous value in being better than your opponents. This is perhaps the best argument against my illegal murderdoxing behavior. Even, maybe especially, against my attempted self-interested defense that I am targeting part of their argument not them personally.

But mom, they started it. How come we can't have any fun? I hate this place, I'm going to my room.

[Besticus Maximus]

benji wrote:

Let me address this for myself and myself only. I do not post this stuff to mock them for it, I'm not going to mock fat4all for the way he looks, I have no reason to mock Kyuuji for being ginger, etc. This is about critiquing social power.

If after I post this stuff people mock Melody for the way he looks rather than his expanding mass of Gundams or Nepenthe for her being a furry rather than her lack of dignified life at that house, I'm not going to police that and say this is about undermining their power so everybody needs to back my agenda.

I'm also not under the illusion that the true believers are going to run screaming because they see the real person, I'm not a revolutionary. But there's a constant permanent effect when you read IrishNinja's violent nonsense and remember what he looks like and how his real life is. Extrapolate this across the members.

If anything, Melody is clearly better than these people. He's putting himself out there as he is. He's not hiding, trying to cover his tracks and protect his history from being used against him as they use any tiny thing against anyone else. Look how fast Kyuuji tried to hide his connection to a single YouTube account and probably would have done the rest if he could. Look at Nepenthe's reaction to the first time she noticed something that had been posted before that she only noticed because people were critiquing her anti-semitism and pro-genocide posts. Look at Bobby Robert's reaction to the fact that people were simply talking about things he posted under his own real name and was himself proud of saying. These things matter within the context of the commentary that is uncovering them.

If you are attempting to leverage your identity to obtain power over others it matters that you're being dishonest and lying. Melody's funny because he's so fucking inept at this and yet he comes back every week asking for more food donations and hinting at suicide. His power exists only because of the hegemonic structure established by people like Kyuuji and Nepenthe. And that's the critique embedded in uncovering the truth of such members, it matters that you're trying to control what others can perceive about what you're using as justification for your power.

Also this. And even more to me, the fact that others there are too cowed or too complicit to do it. Especially not publicly.

That said, if members continue to complain (either directly through posts or through the likes on those posts which I am not ignoring, I'm aware my position is strongly a minority one on here) I will continue to consider other ways of doing this. One thing I have to reject is creating a private section where it is done because that is what they do. I believe there is value in The Bire being public and not only easily seen but easily confronted just by signing up. The fact that a person refuses to engage their critics and instead only smears them where they feel safe from the critics is telling about their character. Since it was brought up, I believe Kiwi Farms is an excellent example of this when you look at the people who have chosen to engage them directly, like Caroline Farrow who is the first declared-lolcow who did it I could think of immediately, rather than try to encourage off-site mobs to find ways to prevent it from existing through false accusations and criminal behavior.

This may be a discussion that warrants its own thread rather than litigated in here.

Dismissing concerns 

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/as-a-poor-what-can-i-do-to-%E2%80%98give-back%E2%80%99-to-my-rich-sister.689110/

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Wondered why you linked to that thread until I remembered I've got that fat cunt on ignore.

[malfoyking]

This Walz guy is very good

[Orange Juice Box]

It's funny, because they're not even talking about whether Dr Doom being Romani matters...it's a Romani actor they want to represent him that they think matters.  It's even more nonsensical.

They are in a sense.  It's discussed as if it's an axiom and if you ask, "how is that intergral to his character?" you get banned as seen above. 

But since it's been established that it is intergral it really doesn't need to be discussed more.  And it follows that if you question it you are bad.  And therefore Marvel is bad (but not enough to stop watching them) and it's just more proof that we actually needed a Vice President nom who had solved capitalism instead of the one we got.

[Green Jupiter]

edit: This does not mean I am not interested in finding an accommodating compromise with our members.

If you’re proposing a summit I volunteer to be community leader of the day old pearl clutcher account faction.

[benji]

Dismissing concerns 

Putting staff at risk by questioning their supremacy.

[Snoopy]

As Slayer once said, "Live by the sword. Die by the sword." Kyuuji and the rest of them had zero qualms about going through that Cyberpunk guy's Twitter digging for anything they could use against him, all because he refused to play their game. They have spent years harassing, bullying, dog piling, derailing threads and getting people banned. They deserve everything they get.

[Potato]

benji wrote:

Let me address this for myself and myself only. I do not post this stuff to mock them for it, I'm not going to mock fat4all for the way he looks, I have no reason to mock Kyuuji for being ginger, etc. This is about critiquing social power.

If after I post this stuff people mock Melody for the way he looks rather than his expanding mass of Gundams or Nepenthe for her being a furry rather than her lack of dignified life at that house, I'm not going to police that and say this is about undermining their power so everybody needs to back my agenda.

I'm also not under the illusion that the true believers are going to run screaming because they see the real person, I'm not a revolutionary. But there's a constant permanent effect when you read IrishNinja's violent nonsense and remember what he looks like and how his real life is. Extrapolate this across the members.

If anything, Melody is clearly better than these people. He's putting himself out there as he is. He's not hiding, trying to cover his tracks and protect his history from being used against him as they use any tiny thing against anyone else. Look how fast Kyuuji tried to hide his connection to a single YouTube account and probably would have done the rest if he could. Look at Nepenthe's reaction to the first time she noticed something that had been posted before that she only noticed because people were critiquing her anti-semitism and pro-genocide posts. Look at Bobby Robert's reaction to the fact that people were simply talking about things he posted under his own real name and was himself proud of saying. These things matter within the context of the commentary that is uncovering them.

If you are attempting to leverage your identity to obtain power over others it matters that you're being dishonest and lying. Melody's funny because he's so fucking inept at this and yet he comes back every week asking for more food donations and hinting at suicide. His power exists only because of the hegemonic structure established by people like Kyuuji and Nepenthe. And that's the critique embedded in uncovering the truth of such members, it matters that you're trying to control what others can perceive about what you're using as justification for your power.

Also this. And even more to me, the fact that others there are too cowed or too complicit to do it. Especially not publicly.

That said, if members continue to complain (either directly through posts or through the likes on those posts which I am not ignoring, I'm aware my position is strongly a minority one on here) I will continue to consider other ways of doing this. One thing I have to reject is creating a private section where it is done because that is what they do. I believe there is value in The Bire being public and not only easily seen but easily confronted just by signing up. The fact that a person refuses to engage their critics and instead only smears them where they feel safe from the critics is telling about their character. Since it was brought up, I believe Kiwi Farms is an excellent example of this when you look at the people who have chosen to engage them directly, like Caroline Farrow who is the first declared-lolcow who did it I could think of immediately, rather than try to encourage off-site mobs to find ways to prevent it from existing through false accusations and criminal behavior.

This may be a discussion that warrants its own thread rather than litigated in here.

Dismissing concerns 

I'm going to dismiss your dismissing concerns because benji clearly has a history of histories.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Melody still hasn't thanked Nintex 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-376#post-126809310

'Nine UNRWA staff members were possibly involved in attack on Israel, UN says'

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/nine-unrwa-staff-may-have-been-involved-oct-7-attack-israel-says-un-2024-08-05/

Outright ignored. I remember they really thought it was a gotcha moment when the UNRWA said they were forced to admit that by Israel.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/sean-chiplock-allegedly-groomed-a-15-y-o-trans-boy-update-statement-from-chiplock-in-threadmarks.917937/page-3#post-126780498



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