Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Boredfrom]

I said before that I also believe there is a white privilege… but GTFO that you didn’t know Diego Luna was Latino, as soon as he opens his mouth you know it.  

Tenoch is not exactly wrong but he is in the other side of the equation of “Mexican Rich Boy” as Diego Luna. As the “my parents give me an indigenous name because sounds cool preserving legacy that doesn’t exist anymore.” He was also a pretty privileged person.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-383#post-127379370

User banned (2 week): cross-community sniping

The fact that no one really seems to care in the US Politics thread is so fucking gross and disheartening.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/israel-palestine-the-ongoing-israeli-genocide-in-gaza-icj-orders-halt-to-israeli-offensive-on-rafah-see-staff-posts-for-posting-guidelines.772478/page-383#post-127379463

User banned (2 week): cross-community sniping

not only that, some disgusting posts actually being hopeful that the protests are empty

[D3RANG3D]

Fj0823
I find fucking sad how this forum completely fails to see how their "Just make good shows!" attitude is working against diverse leads.

Sometimes it's okay for a middling thing to do well and continue if it pushes marginalized people on the forefront. Lord knows shitty white male shows get that luxury.

It's not, it's just exotic enough to be alluring and easy to pronounce for an English speaker.

(((Oscar Isaac))) quite clearly mentioned that his agents told him to use the more white sounding of his names. Now my man is out there without a last name.

Like come on, we Latinos know this.

There's a reason why I'm Frank at work

.

It's Latinx chud.

[JoeBoy101]

That sucks. It was good.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-2#post-127388919

No, it wasn't

Fuck you. It was a perfect show!

That's too bad. I quite enjoyed it.

The kiss of death.

[JoeBoy101]

I didn't even watch this but the fucking YouTube thumbnails that this news is going to lead to will make me quit the internet.

Curse you Algorithm, that I keep feeding with my hate viewings!!!

[HaughtyFrank]

It's amazing to me how badly they want to play the victim. They're so desperate to declare Disney submitting to the "chuds" they try to argue that the lead of Andor isn't really Latino enough.

I get the feeling it's all just distraction from the bitter reality that diversity alone isn't enough to make a show successful. Like The Acolyte was so fully in on diversity you were hard pressed to even find a white guy in the cast at all. But did this mean a huge audience was suddenly tuning in because they had been waiting all their life to see space witch lesbians? No. The "woke mob" doesn't remotely have the grip on demographics that companies for some reason believe they do. Same goes for the "Chuds" but companies aren't as desperate to pander to them

[JoeBoy101]

Reading that Acolyte thread and the overdosing on copium from people saying 'its a shame', 'it was good', and even 'best star wars series' and then to compare to that graph.

They really are that divorced from reality aren't they. The ERA bubble in graph form.

[Echelon]

If Diego Luna is brown then my Balkan ass is Mr. fucking Popo.

I'm glad that dogshit show is dead, but Star Wars has already been run into the ground. Unless they retcon everything Disney has put out. Even Andor was three non sequitur "lol cool Star War" segments pasted into one season. I'm doubly glad they think it's because the chuds under Darth Elon are winning.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-6#post-127390737

I find fucking sad how this forum completely fails to see how their "Just make good shows!" attitude is working against diverse leads.

[Potato]

The most annoying Star Wars fans you know is going to be celebratory over this.

Which ones? The ones that celebrate because a black female led production got cancelled or the ones that cheer alongside them because it's not "cinema" ??

It's getting harder and harder to distinguish these cheers for failure

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-5#post-127390200

Wanting good shows is considered racist now I guess

It's really frustrating, and I get the idea that it feels like they have been constantly setting POC talent up for failure.

The worst people you know are definitely going to be emoldened by this and the fact that this will pave the way for more harrassment, threats and riducle for minorities who dare to be cast in a popular series is sickening.

Disney wasted millions of dollars just to embarrass some lesbian producers and get mocked by CHUDs.

Amazing how all these POC talents just keep getting set up for failure...

[ClothedMac]

If you looked at them, could you really tell they are Latino? My mother is Mexican, and you would think she was white until you heard her name. Sad, but true.

Are you claiming that Pedro Pascal and Diego Luna don't look Latino? Wtf?

I'm claiming that it is not easy to tell. It is not always easy to tell. Do you think it is easy to tell? And you can, can you tell me how?

I'm Latino. I've lived with many Latinos. I've seen many Latinos. And I could not tell that they were Latino, nor could my familly until they heard their names

Diego Luna is a big ass Mexican actor since 20 years ago. There has been more “white passing” (Latinos can be white, who knew? ) local actors here.

That was a sweet reversal.

"It's kind of hard to tell they are latino"

"What?  They don't look latino to you, can't you clearly see are?"

"How do you "clearly see" who is latino?  What features do you see?  Why don't you tell us?  Also, my lived experience and such"


The idiot was so enraged by the cancelling he labeled an oppressed latinx a chud hoping to rack up a ban.

[kaleidoscopium]

Every time I finish a page on that thread 2 more added. Peak meltdown

[JoeBoy101]

I'm sorry, but if you believe that the non stop videos, TikToks, "rumors" one after another calling this the worst thing Star Wars ever produced and attacks at the actresses and director just for their identity for months, MONTHS before the show even aired didn't have an effect on the narrative around this show...Then I have a bridge to sell to you.

 

 Sell me the bridge then. It was a middling show with a crazy high budget and apparently low viewership, in a time where they're now tightening the purse strings when it comes to their budgets for streaming shows. Like literally the only reason this is a shock to people is because its Star Wars. If this was any other franchise, everyone would agree that it's not very surprising given what we know.

I can't do anything about the chuds, but if you thought it was a guarantee to be renewed then idk what to say

[Hap Shaughnessy]

I'm claiming that it is not easy to tell. It is not always easy to tell. Do you think it is easy to tell? And you can, can you tell me how?

I'm Latino. I've lived with many Latinos. I've seen many Latinos. And I could not tell that they were Latino, nor could my familly until they heard their names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pato_O%27Ward

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-5#post-127390200

Wanting good shows is considered racist now I guess

It's really frustrating, and I get the idea that it feels like they have been constantly setting POC talent up for failure.

The worst people you know are definitely going to be emoldened by this and the fact that this will pave the way for more harrassment, threats and riducle for minorities who dare to be cast in a popular series is sickening.

Disney wasted millions of dollars just to embarrass some lesbian producers and get mocked by CHUDs.

Amazing how all these POC talents just keep getting set up for failure...

And the white passing ones get the good projects. 

Disney so white.

[benji]

The unfalsifiable argument's benefit is that it cannot be wrong and can always be used to confirm you're right. If you understood how the systemic forces of capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy drive everything you'd understand these complex issues.

For example, see these evidence free claims:

Makes sense but a S2 would have been excellent with what they set up

Disney also almost certainly learned the wrong lessons from the conservative chud backlash, like with TLJ

Yep, and the "Critical" voices of the internet will just go "Oh well" at another show with diverse leads doing poorly and pretend that the problem is "make better shows" when the message companies are receiving is very clearly "Diversity is more trouble than it's worth"

It's really frustrating, and I get the idea that it feels like they have been constantly setting POC talent up for failure.

The worst people you know are definitely going to be emoldened by this and the fact that this will pave the way for more harrassment, threats and riducle for minorities who dare to be cast in a popular series is sickening.

I pray this is the case. The chuds were loud and TLJ backlash response proves Disney is capable of lending an ear to the wrong fandom minority

Fj0823
I find fucking sad how this forum completely fails to see how their "Just make good shows!" attitude is working against diverse leads.

Sometimes it's okay for a middling thing to do well and continue if it pushes marginalized people on the forefront. Lord knows shitty white male shows get that luxury.

[Boredfrom]

I'm claiming that it is not easy to tell. It is not always easy to tell. Do you think it is easy to tell? And you can, can you tell me how?

I'm Latino. I've lived with many Latinos. I've seen many Latinos. And I could not tell that they were Latino, nor could my familly until they heard their names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pato_O%27Ward

“Is almost like being Latino is not a race…”

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-ot-only-murders-in-the-temple.887358/post-127393653

Crossing Eden

Honestly. I genuinely hate SW fans.

[DocWager]

I don’t care… Mexicans aren’t my people.

[Taco Bell Tower]

That sucks. It was good.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-2#post-127388919

No, it wasn't

Dude who begged Ree to watch his series to get another season
Khanimus

It wasn't great. Everything interesting on the page felt fumbled in execution.

Mariolee

Holy shit I actually was not expecting this. I know the ratings were low and overall reception was middling, but I thought they had a strong potential to grow in the future.

Guess it's onto the comics and animated series to continue the story.

[kaleidoscopium]

There's a reason why Pedro Pascal doesn't go by José Pedro Balmaceda

'pedro pascal' isn't, like, a white name lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-7#post-127391196

Having diverse leads means it's okay for mediocre shows to exist and not be crucified with extra scrutiny like white shows do.

“Accept this slop, colored people, it’s the best we can get!” 

[ClothedMac]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-9#post-127393323

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-9#post-127393323

if inside out 2 wasn't a huge commercial success, you bet your ass the internet grifters would be screaming woke. riley has a very diverse friend group in the film, and the whole film centers around the experiences of being a teenage girl. when a movie or show is universally liked though, the crying of the grifters barely has the space to exist so they just shut up about it. we've seen it happen with other projects like x-men 97 or barbie.

When the diverse movies that are good succeed the chuds are tacitical enough to back off.  But when those chuds watch a diverse show or movie that sucks they say it's bad.  Damn you Chuds!!! 
                                                                    

[Echelon]

There's a reason why Pedro Pascal doesn't go by José Pedro Balmaceda

'pedro pascal' isn't, like, a white name lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-7#post-127391196

Having diverse leads means it's okay for mediocre shows to exist and not be crucified with extra scrutiny like white shows do.

“Accept this slop, colored people, it’s the best we can get!” :roll

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-ot-only-murders-in-the-temple.887358/post-127393653

Crossing Eden

Honestly. I genuinely hate SW fans.

Crossing Eden was shilling the show so hard it's ridiculous. Glad he's unhappy

[Boredfrom]

There's a reason why Pedro Pascal doesn't go by José Pedro Balmaceda

'pedro pascal' isn't, like, a white name lol

https://www.resetera.com/threads/star-wars-the-acolyte-canceled-after-one-season.957378/page-7#post-127391196

Having diverse leads means it's okay for mediocre shows to exist and not be crucified with extra scrutiny like white shows do.

“Accept this slop, colored people, it’s the best we can get!” :roll

Is French so it doesn’t count.  

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only Anglo names are “white”  

[Echelon]

Do you think they know the Spanish are white? How can they claim to despise colonialism so much and not register the fact that like 90% of indigenous americans got replaced with Pedros and Diegos from España. Ooh I'm so cultural uWu.

[ClothedMac]

   There are so many posts saying "Thank God, it was total shit."   Zeo and FJ must be so confused at what to do.

[malfoyking]

It will be so amazing if the HP show comes, has many POC's in it and is received better than this Star Wars tripe lol. Of course we know they'll ignore it though lol.

[Boredfrom]

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Do you think they know the Spanish are white? How can they claim to despise colonialism so much and not register the fact that like 90% of indigenous americans got replaced with Pedros and Diegos from España. Ooh I'm so cultural uWu.

Me and my mom got confused as Spaniards by French people when we were vacationing in Europe

 It was weird, we are both light brown. We don’t get confused when we are in the States.

[Propagandhim]

They made an educated guess based on geography and likelihood.  A sort of, Pascual's wager, if u will. 

I'll leave now