Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I have a question

Keep it to yourself, Jesse Singal.

Hey

[Cauliflower Of Love]

where you going?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

hear us out

[Nintex]

Kojima thread is a great example of why you should simply never post there.

Someone creates a ban bait thread where only one opinion is allowed (the burkah opinion thread).

Anything that is not lining up to say 'Yeah Kojima is history's greatest monster when you think about it and everyone who likes him is probably evil' is a ban.

I would argue, another great example to never read either. 

I'm certainly going to be less involved in doom scrolling this shit and the kulturkampf next year. 
It was fun, we won the battle but now it's up to Elon and Trump to carry the banner and for Bobby Kennedy to help cure these poor souls.

The best thing we can do is focus on what we like and support.

You'll be back

Notice less involved, instead of not involved.

I'm certainly going to be around, no worries about that. But I'm not going to browse back 10 pages to see what crazy shit Nepenthe has said or dumpster dive to see how they respond to some kind of political statement, game review or terrorist attack.

Whenever I feel the urge, like right fucking now. I'm gonna take a walk instead.

[benji]

Some of us don't have the privilege of being able to walk away from ongoing suffering.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-a-fighting-game-sitcom-would-work.1068732/

To be clear, I AM NOT referring to a fighting game based on a sitcom but a fighting game's who story/tone/arcade etc are like a sitcom.

I came to this revelation years ago around the time of Dragon Ball Fighter Z's release, I can't remember if it was here or Reddit where I saw the post but it was from someone who didn't like fighters having storymodes asking if people really just wanted these characters to hangout (which was what most of FighterZ's story was) and the answer is yes. The main draw of a fighting game for most people outside of the competitive scene is the characters, they sell the game so of course people want to see these characters interact, get to know them, see what makes them tick, have fun etc. This is why Mortal Kombat's pre-fight chats, Tekken's beloved goofy endings or Street Fighter 6's mentor system have been so well received. It's why I'm fully convinced a fighting game with a friendship/romance system would work so well and be beloved (especially with fighters having their own sexualities, lesbian Cammy, please confirm Cammy as a lesbian!!!!). Hell I think Dragon Ball game devs figured this out ages ago and is why Xenoverse 2 lasted as long as it did or why Sparking Zero's alt stories are so popular.

Hell you see this with video game plots. For all the praise the MK games get for their stories, the plots themselves are fairly simple and humdrum and would fall apart if it wasn't for thing that made them work, the character interactions. It's not the end of the world plot people care about, it's seeing Scorpion and Sub-Zero interact, it's inter-character drama people love seeing. Same with Tekken 8's story, without the Tekken characters, it's a bonkers silly story but what makes it work is seeing these characters interact, the small moments between these characters. It's one of the (many) failings of MvCI's story and why moments like Morrigan and Ghost Rider's interactions are few bits people seem to remember from it.

This isn't even a fighting game exclusive thing, someone in another thread brought this up when it comes to Pokemon and why Masters became so popular because it gave fans what they wanted, the ability to hangout, interact with the many characters and see them live their lives and chill out in comedic and fun scenarios.

And the thing is, I know this would work because I've seen tons and tons of times in fan works; from Awkward Zombie's classic Smash comics to thousands of fan comics and fan videos and parodies dating back to all the way to the height of Newgrounds. Their is a market there.

Hell I think something like Pocket Fighters would be amazing for this. Instead of a single big story mode, have it be smaller "episodes" of a larger season (that can be added to via DLC) where the characters are doing funny and relatable things or are like the "actors" in between games etc etc.

[benji]

Allies actually taking direct action get the ladies.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-videos-explaining-hideo-kojimas-troubling-depiction-of-women-sexual-violence-as-well-as-his-dismissal-of-colleagues-series-spoilers.1068144/#post-133382805

User banned (1 month): Dismissing concerns of misogyny

Does Phantom Pain really count because it's basically terrible all the way through and very obviously an unfinished game?

Yeah, Quiet sucks, but I don't actually think any of the Male characters are much better in this regard --- the plot was just awful all around and the only reason anyone likes MGS PP is that the gameplay was pretty good.

Edit: to frame it another way, did any character in the game have a meaningful impact to the story at all? Even venom snake doesn't really matter by the end of the story and he's the main character.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-videos-explaining-hideo-kojimas-troubling-depiction-of-women-sexual-violence-as-well-as-his-dismissal-of-colleagues-series-spoilers.1068144/page-3#post-133387239

User banned (permanet): Racist and misogynistic trolling over multiple posts. Account in junior phase.

Personally, MGS just blew my mind when it came out like nothing else. I think he deserves credit for making some groundbreaking games with good sense in action mechanics and entertaining presentation. Anyone calling him a hack dev is laughable. If anything, I think most people have a problem with his Japanese taste and way of doing things. His games are really just anime influenced as much as film.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-videos-explaining-hideo-kojimas-troubling-depiction-of-women-sexual-violence-as-well-as-his-dismissal-of-colleagues-series-spoilers.1068144/page-3#post-133389486

User Banned (permanent): Dismissing Concerns of Misogyny and Inflammatory Accusations Over Multiple Posts. Account in Junior Phase

He's still the GOAT.

These portrayals have always just been the cringiest pieces of his games, but everything else about his games make it easy to look past.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-videos-explaining-hideo-kojimas-troubling-depiction-of-women-sexual-violence-as-well-as-his-dismissal-of-colleagues-series-spoilers.1068144/page-4#post-133395951

User banned (1 month): Dismissing concerns of misogyny

Metal Gear Solid V was 9 years ago. Metal Gear Solid 4 was 16 years ago. Policenauts was 30 years ago. Snatcher was 36 years ago.

Nobody is arguing that any of these elements were good. But I also don't get why we're relitigating stuff from games the majority of ResetERA wasn't alive for as if no one has ever criticized them in the past 30 years, or as if groping women is still a feature in Kojima's latest games. They're a shitty element within a complex legacy from a flawed creator.

It's like asking why no one's holding Stephen King accountable for the child orgy in IT, or the WILD shit that Akira Toriyama put out during his one-shots or even Dragonball. I promise, you're not the first to point it out. People just moved on. What else can people do beyond acknowledge the history and make a judgement of quality from there?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-videos-explaining-hideo-kojimas-troubling-depiction-of-women-sexual-violence-as-well-as-his-dismissal-of-colleagues-series-spoilers.1068144/page-5#post-133402032

User banned (1 month): Dismissing concerns of misogyny over multiple posts. Account in junior phase.

Insane the amount of masterpieces he made. You don't think about it until you see all of it at the same time, like once or twice is a fluke but so many times?

[Nintex]

It was foggy out and the lighthouse was covered in a red light for the Christmas season and some lights were flickering because of construction work.

Gave me an Alan Wake vibe.

[Kevtones]

I’m trying to imagine the reaction when a radically pro-life Waluigi murders the Planned Parenthood CEO for ‘killing babies’

That wouldn't be the same because that chud is trying to make the world a worse place.

Imagine if it’s an attractive woman - human discourse would surely peak beside it.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-best-videos-explaining-hideo-kojimas-troubling-depiction-of-women-sexual-violence-as-well-as-his-dismissal-of-colleagues-series-spoilers.1068144/page-4#post-133395951

User banned (1 month): Dismissing concerns of misogyny

Metal Gear Solid V was 9 years ago. Metal Gear Solid 4 was 16 years ago. Policenauts was 30 years ago. Snatcher was 36 years ago.

Nobody is arguing that any of these elements were good. But I also don't get why we're relitigating stuff from games the majority of ResetERA wasn't alive for as if no one has ever criticized them in the past 30 years, or as if groping women is still a feature in Kojima's latest games. They're a shitty element within a complex legacy from a flawed creator.

It's like asking why no one's holding Stephen King accountable for the child orgy in IT, or the WILD shit that Akira Toriyama put out during his one-shots or even Dragonball. I promise, you're not the first to point it out. People just moved on. What else can people do beyond acknowledge the history and make a judgement of quality from there?

This isn't dismissing concerns, it's asking how they can be addressed.

[Besticus Maximus]

Noted male paedophile princess bubblegum is extra upset with the non-anti Kojima posters

[Kevtones]

I’m trying to imagine the reaction when a radically pro-life Waluigi murders the Planned Parenthood CEO for ‘killing babies’

https://www.resetera.com/threads/french-rapper-investigated-for-call-to-hang-white-people.71646/page-6#post-13234030
NepNep for out of context

You're dodging the question quite deftly by framing this as being about babies.

The Waluigi murders don't target all babies. Just white ones.

Nep is a ‘Simpsons did it’ for shittiness. Every time I’m like ‘imagine if some idiot at RE said this’ - sure enough, she has.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-find-it-a-cognitive-dissonance-that-valve-is-considered-consumer-friendly-but-also-has-the-biggest-real-money-gambling-in-gaming.1068393/page-4#post-133409265

User banned (1 month): Extremely inflammatory comparisons. History of the same behavior.

Waiving off the rampant Nazism on the platform while staunchly insisting Steam is "consumer friendly" just communicates to me Steam's biggest fans are aligned with those ideals.

Which is why if I ever get back into PC gaming I'm never using Steam.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

RomToggins being forced to bend the knee by vinocunt in that I want my fetish recognised thread. 

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Banabanotaman died for you cunt. How could you do that to faer?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-importance-of-explicit-lgbtq-confirmation-in-fiction.1067262/#post-133326366

User Banned(1 Month): Dismissing concerns over representation

^^^

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-feel-about-organized-religion.1064070/page-4#post-133174824

User Banned (Permanently): Misogynist Commentary; History of the Same

I mean I certainly put the blame there.

On that we agree.


Then religion can't be blamed for the shit that men would do if religion didn't exist. It's not real.


Fake God has nothing to do with this therefore, all the text in the holy books that can be stripped of his influence are able to stand on their own merit. I say judge it based on what it's saying and not what it's supposedly connected to.


Now, if you believe in God or Buddha or whomever, then these text take on different context.



*Note: This is not meant to come off as misogynistic, it's just a real life example that I have spoke with men and women about in secular and religious circles that seems to be true. I can edit or delete if it feels anymore than that.


It doesn't work as intended. I withdraw. Sorry

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-a-fighting-game-sitcom-would-work.1068732/

To be clear, I AM NOT referring to a fighting game based on a sitcom but a fighting game's who story/tone/arcade etc are like a sitcom.

I came to this revelation years ago around the time of Dragon Ball Fighter Z's release, I can't remember if it was here or Reddit where I saw the post but it was from someone who didn't like fighters having storymodes asking if people really just wanted these characters to hangout (which was what most of FighterZ's story was) and the answer is yes. The main draw of a fighting game for most people outside of the competitive scene is the characters, they sell the game so of course people want to see these characters interact, get to know them, see what makes them tick, have fun etc. This is why Mortal Kombat's pre-fight chats, Tekken's beloved goofy endings or Street Fighter 6's mentor system have been so well received. It's why I'm fully convinced a fighting game with a friendship/romance system would work so well and be beloved (especially with fighters having their own sexualities, lesbian Cammy, please confirm Cammy as a lesbian!!!!). Hell I think Dragon Ball game devs figured this out ages ago and is why Xenoverse 2 lasted as long as it did or why Sparking Zero's alt stories are so popular.

Hell you see this with video game plots. For all the praise the MK games get for their stories, the plots themselves are fairly simple and humdrum and would fall apart if it wasn't for thing that made them work, the character interactions. It's not the end of the world plot people care about, it's seeing Scorpion and Sub-Zero interact, it's inter-character drama people love seeing. Same with Tekken 8's story, without the Tekken characters, it's a bonkers silly story but what makes it work is seeing these characters interact, the small moments between these characters. It's one of the (many) failings of MvCI's story and why moments like Morrigan and Ghost Rider's interactions are few bits people seem to remember from it.

This isn't even a fighting game exclusive thing, someone in another thread brought this up when it comes to Pokemon and why Masters became so popular because it gave fans what they wanted, the ability to hangout, interact with the many characters and see them live their lives and chill out in comedic and fun scenarios.

And the thing is, I know this would work because I've seen tons and tons of times in fan works; from Awkward Zombie's classic Smash comics to thousands of fan comics and fan videos and parodies dating back to all the way to the height of Newgrounds. Their is a market there.

Hell I think something like Pocket Fighters would be amazing for this. Instead of a single big story mode, have it be smaller "episodes" of a larger season (that can be added to via DLC) where the characters are doing funny and relatable things or are like the "actors" in between games etc etc.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/botw-%E2%80%98breaking%E2%80%99-weapon-mechanic-is-good.1067229/page-2#post-133318464

User banned (1 week): Inappropriate commentary. Antagonizing another member.

Nothing says "I was dropped on my head as a child" like complaining about BOTW weapon durability.

[DocWager]

“Kevtones” possibly Nep.

You ain’t slick.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Shouldn't ChristmasSmasher be unbanned by now?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tgas-players-voice-final-nominees-black-myth-wukong-wuthering-waves-genshin-impact-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-zenless-zone-zero.1055919/#post-132685365

[Venice]

Shouldn't ChristmasSmasher be unbanned by now?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tgas-players-voice-final-nominees-black-myth-wukong-wuthering-waves-genshin-impact-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-zenless-zone-zero.1055919/#post-132685365

Lol "Apology in Tickets"





PlanetSmasher: "Please, please unban me, it's Christmas, I'm so sorry, I fucked up my life going to clown college, so ResetEra is all I got left, I'm sorry Nep-Nep"

[wizardora]

Shouldn't ChristmasSmasher be unbanned by now?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tgas-players-voice-final-nominees-black-myth-wukong-wuthering-waves-genshin-impact-elden-ring-shadow-of-the-erdtree-and-zenless-zone-zero.1055919/#post-132685365

Speaking of which, Cum4All AKA Mr. 'this close' to going off on the mods if not for the fact that he needs ResetEra is due to come back Dec 26th.

[HaughtyFrank]

RomToggins being forced to bend the knee by vinocunt in that I want my fetish recognised thread. 

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Banabanotaman died for you cunt. How could you do that to faer?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-importance-of-explicit-lgbtq-confirmation-in-fiction.1067262/#post-133326366

User Banned(1 Month): Dismissing concerns over representation

^^^

Kissed the ring and still got banned. That's how it goes bitches.

[books]

Lol Resetera is where opinions go to die.

I hope Death Stranding 2 stars a delivery chick that is allergic to clothes because of the apocalypse.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-feel-about-organized-religion.1064070/page-4#post-133174824

User Banned (Permanently): Misogynist Commentary; History of the Same

I mean I certainly put the blame there.

On that we agree.


Then religion can't be blamed for the shit that men would do if religion didn't exist. It's not real.


Fake God has nothing to do with this therefore, all the text in the holy books that can be stripped of his influence are able to stand on their own merit. I say judge it based on what it's saying and not what it's supposedly connected to.


Now, if you believe in God or Buddha or whomever, then these text take on different context.



*Note: This is not meant to come off as misogynistic, it's just a real life example that I have spoke with men and women about in secular and religious circles that seems to be true. I can edit or delete if it feels anymore than that.


It doesn't work as intended. I withdraw. Sorry

Good. Now he can spend time with his eight kids.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-find-it-a-cognitive-dissonance-that-valve-is-considered-consumer-friendly-but-also-has-the-biggest-real-money-gambling-in-gaming.1068393/page-4#post-133409265

User banned (1 month): Extremely inflammatory comparisons. History of the same behavior.

Waiving off the rampant Nazism on the platform while staunchly insisting Steam is "consumer friendly" just communicates to me Steam's biggest fans are aligned with those ideals.

Which is why if I ever get back into PC gaming I'm never using Steam.

"You'll need lebensraum when you see these highest discount ever exclusive deals: https://store.steampowered.com/sale/special_deals" 
 

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-find-it-a-cognitive-dissonance-that-valve-is-considered-consumer-friendly-but-also-has-the-biggest-real-money-gambling-in-gaming.1068393/page-4#post-133409265

Which is why if I ever get back into PC gaming I'm never using Steam.

Yeah, much more progressive to give your cut to GOG (alt-right transphobes), Epic (Tim Sweeney is a centrist), Ubisoft directly (sexual abuse of employees) or EA directly (EA) over a privately held company just because it ignores its ancient message boards like everyone else.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-feel-about-organized-religion.1064070/page-4#post-133174824

User Banned (Permanently): Misogynist Commentary; History of the Same

I mean I certainly put the blame there.

On that we agree.


Then religion can't be blamed for the shit that men would do if religion didn't exist. It's not real.


Fake God has nothing to do with this therefore, all the text in the holy books that can be stripped of his influence are able to stand on their own merit. I say judge it based on what it's saying and not what it's supposedly connected to.


Now, if you believe in God or Buddha or whomever, then these text take on different context.



*Note: This is not meant to come off as misogynistic, it's just a real life example that I have spoke with men and women about in secular and religious circles that seems to be true. I can edit or delete if it feels anymore than that.


It doesn't work as intended. I withdraw. Sorry

lol one of those forever members, 30.000 posts, getting banned for this

EXAMPLE:
"it is better to live in the corner of a roof" than to share a house with a quarrelsome or contentious woman"
Proverbs 21:9

I don't care who you do or don't pray too but if we are all adults in the room we have had experiences that give this merit. (Not blame, was probably the guys fault 2500 years ago too)

*Note: This is not meant to come off as misogynistic, it's just a real life example that I have spoke with men and women about in secular and religious circles that seems to be true. I can edit or delete if it feels anymore than that.

[books]

Luigi needs to do the phone book defense and then kill someone for likes.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-you-feel-about-organized-religion.1064070/page-4#post-133174824

  User Banned (Permanently): Misogynist Commentary; History of the Same

lol one of those forever members, 30.000 posts, getting banned for this

EXAMPLE:
"it is better to live in the corner of a roof" than to share a house with a quarrelsome or contentious woman"
Proverbs 21:9

I don't care who you do or don't pray too but if we are all adults in the room we have had experiences that give this merit. (Not blame, was probably the guys fault 2500 years ago too)

*Note: This is not meant to come off as misogynistic, it's just a real life example that I have spoke with men and women about in secular and religious circles that seems to be true. I can edit or delete if it feels anymore than that.

What's the misogynist part?