Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Eric Cartman]

The other belief I won't budge on is my hatred of capitalism, wage labor, and the very concept of money/currency being a tool of oppression. I understand that many of my favorite things probably wouldn't exist without it, but I am radical in my belief that it is the root of most human suffering today. The phrase "living wage" is pure evil. Being forced to be employed to live, to meet basic needs, is pure evil.

He musta skipped the part where the communists said "I'm not working hard just so you can sponge off me you lazy cunt"

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i%E2%80%99m-thru-hiking-the-appalachian-trail-ama.1162509/page-7#post-139710939

Between his hotel stays and fast food/pizza stops along the trail, he should finish next year. Kudos for hiking it but Ubering to get McDonald's and and sleep in hotels every few days it kinda takes away from the challenge.

Baby steps. Somebody doing something, anything, is vastly more admirable the nothing most of these guys get up to and still find ways to complain nonstop.

At least he is not giving up (yet).

Sounds like he underestimated how much he was going to miss basic modern commodities. Hope, at least, he learns to appreciate them.

[Eric Cartman]

Also part of the problem with the big tent is that everyone in the tent hates each other and it's so easy to convince each marginalized group that the other is fucking them over.

Black democrats last year reported feeling that Kamala Harris was ignoring their problems and focusing too much on making sure everyone was nice to trans people. This would be news to trans people, who largely felt that at best Harris was ignoring their plights.

But the Democrac party falls apart if they aren't a coalition of disparate groups that feel screwed by Republicans. And they have failed to pick up on the fact that this alone is not enough to motivate people to the polls

I don't think you need a doctorate in political science to comprehend that the essential difference between 'conservative' and 'progressive' is that one side thinks things are mostly fine as they are, and the other thinks things need to be radically different to improve things, or that its a lot easier to build consensus for 'pretty much more of the same' than it is to build consensus of which particular pet project needs to be initiated.

[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1773#post-139727460

Of the 11 actions you've received in your time here, I'm literally not responsible for a single one of them. You just randomly singled me out because you don't like me.

I'm also not enthused to see you acting like I've ever defended Trump, nor am I all that enamored with how tepid your apology was after the fact considering how accusatory and long that rant was.

Unless it's a seriously pressing forum matter, don't ever ping me like that anymore. Hell, just keep my name out your mouth in general.

Albatross is T-2 weeks from a quiet perma-ban.

He’s done for, may as well just leave now.

Also, that last line…lmao 😂

[Eric Cartman]

One problem with that thread is that Trump is a lot closer to the center than they think. They think a position to the left of the center of the Democratic Party is the actual center of everybody. But stuff they're willing to say they'd get killed over are things supported by a majority of the country.

If Trump would just shut the fuck up for once in his life for a while he'd probably have positive approval.

Maybe I am naive about fundamental human nature in a society (I sure was about anti-semitism), but I kinda think the majority of people are not, in fact, fine with sending undesirables to a gulag in the negative zone, ignoring judicial due process via fiat, or attempting to falsify democratic electoral results to stay in power.

Like, this is fucking third world country tinpot dictator shit. I don't think people are generally okay with it. People SHOULDN'T be generally okay with it!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Of the 11 actions you've received in your time here, I'm literally not responsible for a single one of them.

nep mods like they vote.

[DocWager]

One problem with that thread is that Trump is a lot closer to the center than they think. They think a position to the left of the center of the Democratic Party is the actual center of everybody. But stuff they're willing to say they'd get killed over are things supported by a majority of the country.

If Trump would just shut the fuck up for once in his life for a while he'd probably have positive approval.

Maybe I am naive about fundamental human nature in a society (I sure was about anti-semitism), but I kinda think the majority of people are not, in fact, fine with sending undesirables to a gulag in the negative zone, ignoring judicial due process via fiat, or attempting to falsify democratic electoral results to stay in power.

Like, this is fucking third world country tinpot dictator shit. I don't think people are generally okay with it. People SHOULDN'T be generally okay with it!

My “Benji is Nep” theory continues.

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1773#post-139718841

When I said that Trump was different than Biden/Harris, and I was banned for it for 6 months by the progressives in this forum, this is what I was saying. Nepenthe, how do you defend trumps actions here, or blame democrats for what's happening here? These are my neighbors, I know this family, my daughter goes to school with this child. We're just so lucky by the accident of our birth that we're not this mom. When uou were playing defense for 4 years for Donald Trump and banning everybody who argued that a Harris admin would be meaningfully different from a Trump admin, how do you deal with this? This *is not old*, this is not common, the democrats didn't do this, the liberals didn't do this; Trump and his shock troops did.

It's not all the same. They're not the same party. They're not a uniparty. This didn't happen 8+ months ago.

This isn't normal. I said it wouldn't be normal and was banned for it by you. I can understand the hard policy stuff, education department, kids with disabilities, whatever, that's some other family for you, someone else's problem, something less important than your priorities. People are hurting therefore the education department should be eliminated and my daughter doesn't get school lunch, whatever, not a big deal, I can bridge that gap. What about this?

When my daughter's friend isn't at school tomorrow, what do I tell her? "Both parties are the same, people are hurting, they're mad at Biden for not listening about loans, Trump will be okay because people are hurting"

What's your advice there to tell my kid? When you equivocated between Trump and Biden or Trump and Harris for 4 years and banned everybody who disagreed with your hot takes trying to derail every political thread into something that enabled trumpism, what about this? This is new, it's not normal, it didn't happen 6+ months ago.

This has been happening all over the country since you helped get Trump elected, and it didn't really affect me enough to ask you about it. The small stuff we could bare. No school lunch whatever, stupid HHS shit, we could bare. But now this is my neighborhood and your defense of the Trump administration has finally affected me and my community to the point that I've gotta ask you — was it worth it? Is it worth it that the defense you play for Trump and the asymmetrical criticism and asymmetrical application of the rules here, was it worth it for you? You said it'd be more of the same and banned anybody who objected, so is this different for you or just more of the same?

As much as Nepenthe richly deserves a calling out for the things they actually stand for, as era would say "this ain't it, chief".

Easily refuted with a Antagonising fellow members, misrepresenting moderation, long history of histories perma and Neopeths linking to a post of hers saying Orange Man Bad and everyone will fall back in line

[Eric Cartman]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1773#post-139727460

Of the 11 actions you've received in your time here, I'm literally not responsible for a single one of them. You just randomly singled me out because you don't like me.

I'm also not enthused to see you acting like I've ever defended Trump, nor am I all that enamored with how tepid your apology was after the fact considering how accusatory and long that rant was.

Unless it's a seriously pressing forum matter, don't ever ping me like that anymore. Hell, just keep my name out your mouth in general.

Albatross is T-2 weeks from a quiet perma-ban.

Choose Your Own Adventure

OPTION A:

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Its not quite 'Random' selection though, is it?
The fact that they HAVE TO TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT that there was no direct action by you because THEY HAVE NO VISIBILITY AS TO THE TRUTH OF THAT, should fucking illustrate the power disparity, and you fucking love your 'discussions' of power dynamics.
Maybe when you DO have such a vastly disproportionate power to regular posters, and there seems to be a high correlation of people disagreeing with you and then getting banned for disagreeing with you, you might want to consider not adopting such an abrasive and disingenous posting style in contentious topics, knowing full well that you are entirely isolated from any repercussions if an argument gets heated

OPTION B:

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Sure thing, Boss.

[Boredfrom]

Of the 11 actions you've received in your time here, I'm literally not responsible for a single one of them. You just randomly singled me out because you don't like me.

I'm also not enthused to see you acting like I've ever defended Trump, nor am I all that enamored with how tepid your apology was after the fact considering how accusatory and long that rant was.

Unless it's a seriously pressing forum matter, don't ever ping me like that anymore. Hell, just keep my name out your mouth in general.

Lovely. Awesome moderation. 

It was worth to chicken ass backtrack your post, Albatross?

[Potato]

One problem with that thread is that Trump is a lot closer to the center than they think. They think a position to the left of the center of the Democratic Party is the actual center of everybody. But stuff they're willing to say they'd get killed over are things supported by a majority of the country.

If Trump would just shut the fuck up for once in his life for a while he'd probably have positive approval.

Maybe I am naive about fundamental human nature in a society (I sure was about anti-semitism), but I kinda think the majority of people are not, in fact, fine with sending undesirables to a gulag in the negative zone, ignoring judicial due process via fiat, or attempting to falsify democratic electoral results to stay in power.

Like, this is fucking third world country tinpot dictator shit. I don't think people are generally okay with it. People SHOULDN'T be generally okay with it!

What part of the last 20 or so years of American political history makes you think the American people are not only generally ok with it, they are actually enthusiastically supporting it?

Drone striking US citizens, gulags in Guantanamo, caging children and separating them from their parents, hanging chads, non-existent weapons of mass destruction...it's nothing new in the zoo.

[Boredfrom]

A lot of stuff would be easier to ignore for the U.S. population if Trump didn’t openly brag about it. Is a cynical take but I don’t think is wrong. I disagree with the notion that Trump isn’t worse that other U.S. presidents, but if American citizens were more savvy and without goldfish memories… he wouldn’t had a second term.

[Eric Cartman]

Drone striking US citizens, gulags in Guantanamo, caging children and separating them from their parents, hanging chads, non-existent weapons of mass destruction...it's nothing new in the zoo.

Most of those were at least done with a veneer of legal justifications and associated allocated responsibilities; they weren't just 'the boss wrote this on a post it note this morning, git 'er done!".

also fairly common for a citizenry to give less of a shit whats being done in their name abroad than whats happening in their own country to their own people on their watch.

[jooseloose]

Take away their thread making privileges FFS


https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-your-gaming-device-has-became-sapient-and-morphs-into-the-video-game-character-youve-played-as-most.1185060/

So one day you are playing video games on the device you play video games the most of in the past two years; whether that be a console like the Switch, your phone, your PC, a handheld etc.

However suddenly, the device begins to smoke and then glow in a ball of light, becoming bigger or smaller until the glow dissipates; and you see the player character you've played most as standing in from of you, the living avatar of your now sapient gaming device.

Their memories are based on the games and media you played, watched, searched and typed on them as well as anything they heard in the room their in (or seen if the have a camera).

So... What happens?

For me, that would be my Pokémon character from Scarlet and Violet... So does that mean I've adopted her and now a mother?

Four hours and zero replies

[DavidCroquet]

Yeah, Albatross really screwed that one...and is one of the only posters who could've potentially pulled it off, or at least stoked some chaos.

It doesn't matter that Nepenthe's one singular vote and countless bad opinions didn't put Trump in office: what matters is that her continued presence as an authority on the forum and frequent lecturing and high horsing on subjects where she has proven herself to be hopelessly retarded have negatively affected the forum as a whole. 

Albatross gets at this when he talks about asymmetrical criticism and application of the rules. Absolutely should've stuck to his guns.

When someone normal talks about electing a real human candidate in the corporeal world, they have to answer for every "but what about <group or action> that isn't perfectly served" and risk a ban in the process if they engage with those questions. 

By contrast, Nep gets to fantasize about some cartoon NYC post-capitalist utopia with kids playing in fire hydrants and people breakdancing on the street, and no one has a job except to take a carrot and leave a carrot, and the orthodox response to this is sagely nodding: that sounds great and realistic, and no groups will be harmed in the transition!

It's no accident that the two sides biggest champions are Nepenthe, who just sort of shits out fanfiction and calls it organizing, and Yogurt, who at this rate is going to receive a Pulitzer for his expertly curated posts. You're only allowed to counter Nepenthe if you write so carefully as to be eligible for prestigious international writing accolades, while she gets to foam and spew whatever without any expectation to ground it in reality. 

Ironically this is often the dynamic people complain about between Democrats and Republicans. And Nep acts puzzled that people suggest she defended Trump. 

[StandingOvation]

Yeah, Albatross really screwed that one...and is one of the only posters who could've potentially pulled it off, or at least stoked some chaos.

It doesn't matter that Nepenthe's one singular vote and countless bad opinions didn't put Trump in office: what matters is that her continued presence as an authority on the forum and frequent lecturing and high horsing on subjects where she has proven herself to be hopelessly retarded have negatively affected the forum as a whole. 

Albatross gets at this when he talks about asymmetrical criticism and application of the rules. Absolutely should've stuck to his guns.

When someone normal talks about electing a real human candidate in the corporeal world, they have to answer for every "but what about <group or action> that isn't perfectly served" and risk a ban in the process if they engage with those questions. 

By contrast, Nep gets to fantasize about some cartoon NYC post-capitalist utopia with kids playing in fire hydrants and people breakdancing on the street, and no one has a job except to take a carrot and leave a carrot, and the orthodox response to this is sagely nodding: that sounds great and realistic, and no groups will be harmed in the transition!

It's no accident that the two sides biggest champions are Nepenthe, who just sort of shits out fanfiction and calls it organizing, and Yogurt, who at this rate is going to receive a Pulitzer for his expertly curated posts. You're only allowed to counter Nepenthe if you write so carefully as to be eligible for prestigious international writing accolades, while she gets to foam and spew whatever without any expectation to ground it in reality. 

Ironically this is often the dynamic people complain about between Democrats and Republicans. And Nep acts puzzled that people suggest she defended Trump. 

Nep: "That's capoeira erasure!!" *bans*

[Snoopy]

Now look. Enough. Nep has a very hard job and I for one appreciate all she and her trans brother do to keep that place running.

[DavidCroquet]

Albatross: "Nepenthe, I find your opinions irrational and reprehensible, and an extremely close-to-home experience in my actual life reminds me of your toxic rhetoric, and how dangerous it would be if many people uncritically shared those same beliefs."

Nepenthe: "u don rly belive that u jus don like me...    "

[HaughtyFrank]

Too lazy to look it up but wasn't there one post where Nepenthe talked about how the Trump admin had not affected her live at all?

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1773#post-139718841

When I said that Trump was different than Biden/Harris, and I was banned for it for 6 months by the progressives in this forum, this is what I was saying. Nepenthe, how do you defend trumps actions here, or blame democrats for what's happening here? These are my neighbors, I know this family, my daughter goes to school with this child. We're just so lucky by the accident of our birth that we're not this mom. When uou were playing defense for 4 years for Donald Trump and banning everybody who argued that a Harris admin would be meaningfully different from a Trump admin, how do you deal with this? This *is not old*, this is not common, the democrats didn't do this, the liberals didn't do this; Trump and his shock troops did.

It's not all the same. They're not the same party. They're not a uniparty. This didn't happen 8+ months ago.

This isn't normal. I said it wouldn't be normal and was banned for it by you. I can understand the hard policy stuff, education department, kids with disabilities, whatever, that's some other family for you, someone else's problem, something less important than your priorities. People are hurting therefore the education department should be eliminated and my daughter doesn't get school lunch, whatever, not a big deal, I can bridge that gap. What about this?

When my daughter's friend isn't at school tomorrow, what do I tell her? "Both parties are the same, people are hurting, they're mad at Biden for not listening about loans, Trump will be okay because people are hurting"

What's your advice there to tell my kid? When you equivocated between Trump and Biden or Trump and Harris for 4 years and banned everybody who disagreed with your hot takes trying to derail every political thread into something that enabled trumpism, what about this? This is new, it's not normal, it didn't happen 6+ months ago.

This has been happening all over the country since you helped get Trump elected, and it didn't really affect me enough to ask you about it. The small stuff we could bare. No school lunch whatever, stupid HHS shit, we could bare. But now this is my neighborhood and your defense of the Trump administration has finally affected me and my community to the point that I've gotta ask you — was it worth it? Is it worth it that the defense you play for Trump and the asymmetrical criticism and asymmetrical application of the rules here, was it worth it for you? You said it'd be more of the same and banned anybody who objected, so is this different for you or just more of the same?

HE ADDED AN EDIT

*edit*

To be honest I'm not always sure if you were one who banned me for stanning for liberals versus Nazis. My bans always came when interacting with you, but the Nazi defenders might have been some other mod or admin and not you. So I'm probably unfair tagging you alone in this post. I think my bans always came when I'd argue with you; that's probably unfair, because there's no audit system to know who actually pulled the lever.

Further edited the post down to this:

Last night I posted a video of ICE deportation raid in my hometown. The video is disturbing and horrible, and one of thousands happening across the country. I blamed people in this forum, including members of the mod team, and I was wrong for blaming people here for that. That was wrong of me and I’ve edited my post for two reasons, that, and because the video is hyper local there could be identifying information in it. My post has been quoted so I know I can’t remove it all, but I’m sorry for blaming people for something that this administration is doing. I was frustrated and angry and took it out on the wrong people, and I slept on it and regretted doing that. So, I’m sorry about that earnestly.

Pussy

[DavidCroquet]

Though these false heroes are vanquished by fear, withering away to the shadows to die in quiet shame, new torchbearers arise...

Hopefully anyone that pushed "they're both the same rhetoric" is doing some serious reflecting after these past few months… if they still think that trumps current admin and Kamala's potential admin are the same then they're truly lost.

It's insane how many people I saw that would do this.... Heck even the ones that downplayed what a potential Trump presidency would be like cause they survived the 1st.... What fucking fools. I really hope those that did that, esp the latter, really had a chance to think on what they said last year..

[Ethan]

Albatross when he went to bed last night after writing that post
 

Albatross when he woke up in stupor this morning, realizing he was about to lose his medium to write his drawn out essays
 

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He's actually one of the sane ones so I hope he survives for his sake

[Jonsey]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-politics-ot-4-5-intermission-keys-more-like-uhhmmm-i-got-nothing-today.962805/page-1773#post-139718841

When I said that Trump was different than Biden/Harris, and I was banned for it for 6 months by the progressives in this forum, this is what I was saying. Nepenthe, how do you defend trumps actions here, or blame democrats for what's happening here? These are my neighbors, I know this family, my daughter goes to school with this child. We're just so lucky by the accident of our birth that we're not this mom. When uou were playing defense for 4 years for Donald Trump and banning everybody who argued that a Harris admin would be meaningfully different from a Trump admin, how do you deal with this? This *is not old*, this is not common, the democrats didn't do this, the liberals didn't do this; Trump and his shock troops did.

It's not all the same. They're not the same party. They're not a uniparty. This didn't happen 8+ months ago.

This isn't normal. I said it wouldn't be normal and was banned for it by you. I can understand the hard policy stuff, education department, kids with disabilities, whatever, that's some other family for you, someone else's problem, something less important than your priorities. People are hurting therefore the education department should be eliminated and my daughter doesn't get school lunch, whatever, not a big deal, I can bridge that gap. What about this?

When my daughter's friend isn't at school tomorrow, what do I tell her? "Both parties are the same, people are hurting, they're mad at Biden for not listening about loans, Trump will be okay because people are hurting"

What's your advice there to tell my kid? When you equivocated between Trump and Biden or Trump and Harris for 4 years and banned everybody who disagreed with your hot takes trying to derail every political thread into something that enabled trumpism, what about this? This is new, it's not normal, it didn't happen 6+ months ago.

This has been happening all over the country since you helped get Trump elected, and it didn't really affect me enough to ask you about it. The small stuff we could bare. No school lunch whatever, stupid HHS shit, we could bare. But now this is my neighborhood and your defense of the Trump administration has finally affected me and my community to the point that I've gotta ask you — was it worth it? Is it worth it that the defense you play for Trump and the asymmetrical criticism and asymmetrical application of the rules here, was it worth it for you? You said it'd be more of the same and banned anybody who objected, so is this different for you or just more of the same?

HE ADDED AN EDIT

*edit*

To be honest I'm not always sure if you were one who banned me for stanning for liberals versus Nazis. My bans always came when interacting with you, but the Nazi defenders might have been some other mod or admin and not you. So I'm probably unfair tagging you alone in this post. I think my bans always came when I'd argue with you; that's probably unfair, because there's no audit system to know who actually pulled the lever.

Further edited the post down to this:

Last night I posted a video of ICE deportation raid in my hometown. The video is disturbing and horrible, and one of thousands happening across the country. I blamed people in this forum, including members of the mod team, and I was wrong for blaming people here for that. That was wrong of me and I’ve edited my post for two reasons, that, and because the video is hyper local there could be identifying information in it. My post has been quoted so I know I can’t remove it all, but I’m sorry for blaming people for something that this administration is doing. I was frustrated and angry and took it out on the wrong people, and I slept on it and regretted doing that. So, I’m sorry about that earnestly.

Pussy

Every fucking time

[Snoopy]

Further edited the post down to this:

Last night I posted a video of ICE deportation raid in my hometown. The video is disturbing and horrible, and one of thousands happening across the country. I blamed people in this forum, including members of the mod team, and I was wrong for blaming people here for that. That was wrong of me and I’ve edited my post for two reasons, that, and because the video is hyper local there could be identifying information in it. My post has been quoted so I know I can’t remove it all, but I’m sorry for blaming people for something that this administration is doing. I was frustrated and angry and took it out on the wrong people, and I slept on it and regretted doing that. So, I’m sorry about that earnestly.

Pussy

He should be sorry. Targeting Nep like that is disrespectful. It’s obvious he has some kind of mental disorder and I hope he drowns in raw sewage

[Alpacx]

Been doing The Reading on The Nazis and it's funny how much Nepenthe resembles a less politically astute pre-WW1 Hitler.


Hitler: You need the masses to win at politics.
Nepenthe: Fuck the masses.

[HaughtyFrank]

Last night I posted a video of ICE deportation raid in my hometown. The video is disturbing and horrible, and one of thousands happening across the country. I blamed people in this forum, including members of the mod team, and I was wrong for blaming people here for that. That was wrong of me and I’ve edited my post for two reasons, that, and because the video is hyper local there could be identifying information in it. My post has been quoted so I know I can’t remove it all, but I’m sorry for blaming people for something that this administration is doing. I was frustrated and angry and took it out on the wrong people, and I slept on it and regretted doing that. So, I’m sorry about that earnestly.

Pussy

Coward. 

Nepenthe is literally arguing that there's no difference between democrats and republicans because they're both capitalists and bomb Gaza. She ignores everything else that is going on and has completely ignored any articles about how cutting the funding of US aid might kill hundreds of thousands of people in the "global south"

[Cheers]

Last night I posted a video of ICE deportation raid in my hometown. The video is disturbing and horrible, and one of thousands happening across the country. I blamed people in this forum, including members of the mod team, and I was wrong for blaming people here for that. That was wrong of me and I’ve edited my post for two reasons, that, and because the video is hyper local there could be identifying information in it. My post has been quoted so I know I can’t remove it all, but I’m sorry for blaming people for something that this administration is doing. I was frustrated and angry and took it out on the wrong people, and I slept on it and regretted doing that. So, I’m sorry about that earnestly.

Pussy

Coward. 

Nepenthe is literally arguing that there's no difference between democrats and republicans because they're both capitalists and bomb Gaza. She ignores everything else that is going on and has completely ignored any articles about how cutting the funding of US aid might kill hundreds of thousands of people in the "global south"

She was kind of confronted with this in the AOC heckler thread. At least, it seems she didn’t like certain comments:

BlackGoku03 said:
It's ok for others to have different priorities. 26 million Africans are now without food, water, and healthcare.

Nepenthe
And you were just in here complaining about people wanting to end capitalism so it's not like you give a shit about those 26 million people either.

Him complaining:

The conversation is a nonstarter to begin with. It's not realistic. Why? Certain people who agree with the heckler don't want progress. They want to see the end of the West and capitalism as we know it.

It's why the thread about the impact of USAID is so damn empty; certain leftists are happy to see it end because they believe it spreads American soft power and hegemony. Some hope that China will fill the gap, ignoring the many millions that will perish in the meantime. I often find these are the same groups that say NATO expansion is to blame for Putin invading Ukraine.

There's no conversation to be had there, especially if you really start digging and pay attention to what they actually want.

[Boredfrom]

Albatross when he went to bed last night after writing that post
 

Albatross when he woke up in stupor this morning, realizing he was about to lose his medium to write his drawn out essays
 

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He's actually one of the sane ones so I hope he survives for his sake

He may be a sane one, but he is an enabler of Nepenthe just by apologizing and said “it’s all the fault of the immigrants”.  These guys yap about how the world is not just but cannot confront a mod from a decaying video game forum.  

Is not like Nepenthe is going to forget this and will not search any reason to perma ban him.

[benji]

Earlier today I posted a comment regarding Trump being closer to the center than ResetERA.com believes. The post is disturbing and horrible, and one of thousands happening across the country. I blamed people in this forum, including members of the mod team, and I was wrong for blaming people here for that. That was wrong of me and I’ve edited my post for two reasons, that, and because the video is hyper local there could be identifying information in it. My post has been quoted so I know I can’t remove it all, but I’m sorry for blaming people for something that this administration is doing. I was frustrated and angry and took it out on the wrong people, and I slept on it and regretted doing that. So, I’m sorry about that earnestly.

[benji]

One problem with that thread is that Trump is a lot closer to the center than they think. They think a position to the left of the center of the Democratic Party is the actual center of everybody. But stuff they're willing to say they'd get killed over are things supported by a majority of the country.

If Trump would just shut the fuck up for once in his life for a while he'd probably have positive approval.

Maybe I am naive about fundamental human nature in a society (I sure was about anti-semitism), but I kinda think the majority of people are not, in fact, fine with sending undesirables to a gulag in the negative zone, ignoring judicial due process via fiat, or attempting to falsify democratic electoral results to stay in power.

Like, this is fucking third world country tinpot dictator shit. I don't think people are generally okay with it. People SHOULDN'T be generally okay with it!

My “Benji is Nep” theory continues.

A lot of stuff would be easier to ignore for the U.S. population if Trump didn’t openly brag about it. Is a cynical take but I don’t think is wrong. I disagree with the notion that Trump isn’t worse that other U.S. presidents, but if American citizens were more savvy and without goldfish memories… he wouldn’t had a second term.

You're arguing against what you want me to have said rather than what I said. I did not say that everything Trump does is centrist. I did not say that everything Trump does is supported by a majority of the population. I said that Trump is far closer to the center than ResetERA.com believes. And he is. That you can pick out this or that or even a number of things in which he is radical on does not change this. He's even more within the ballpark in the broader sense of some of these, Americans do want illegals deported, especially criminals. They are not in line with the Democratic elite's position of pretending this isn't something that should be mentioned and all just given welfare and citizenship instead. Americans by and large do not like judges constraining elected officials even when the elected officials want to do blatantly illegal things. A large chunk of the population believes elections are always rigged as proven by the ones where the person they wanted lost. Mass partisan politics is not a place where cognitive dissonance operates.

Additionally my second statement was not that people would support whatever but that Trump would not be seen negative in the aggregate. If he was not confrontational and hostile to them the media would not give a shit, just like they never have given a shit under other presidents, and so there would be large swaths of the population not being activated to be outraged about something they often don't actually oppose. This would add up across the board to Trump probably being seen favorably in the standard polls because this is the norm. Trump has no capacity to pick his battles so he will always be doomed to this even if he didn't do the things you're bringing up and solely stuck to traditional methods of enacting his policy positions.

But all of this is an even further disconnect from my original point. The thread was asking why Democrats should have to move to the center when Trump doesn't. My argument was that ResetERA.com does not have the capacity for this discussion because Trump is already closer to the center than they believe. Trump doesn't have to "move to the center" because he's already closer to it than the Democratic elite let alone ResetERA.com which wants the party to move even further away from the center. That ResetERA.com considers that Democratic elite to be dead center when they're probably at least one standard deviation from it. (I would argue more so if people actually knew the specifics of their positions, Democratic support has consistently dropped for decades once their specifics are named.) If Trump is hypothetically also one standard deviation from the center than they're erroneously locating Trump's position relative to the center two or more away. So Trump doesn't have to be centrist for him to be "a lot closer" to the center than they believe.