Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[benji]

Remember when they had the big forum-wide fight over whether or not people should post the accusations about Joe Biden being a sexual harasser. Or allowing BernieBros to keep attacking him as a centrist. Or all the attacks and bans handed out for anyone questioning his mental acuity or ability to continue in office or as the next candidate. We should go back in time and let them know they'll be celebrating him getting cancer at age 82.

[Propagandhim]

Cancer is a horrible illness. I lost my fiance to it when I was 25 and it was one of the hardest things I ever faced. Anybody in this thread celebrating Joe Biden getting cancer, just know that.... hell yeah I'm right there with you. Absolutely fuck the shit out of this piss ass war criminal. Hope it hurts too.

Erode your moral character and rejoice in someone's suffering through illness, seems like a one-way loss to me, dude.  What will come out of this but you getting used to a new level of bitterness and cruelty that you have to drag around with you.  Even if you accept that Joe Biden was the deciding factor for the retaliation in Gaza (lol), don't even understand how holding someone accountable for that is compatible with celebrating an illness - nothing is going to reform the situation if you're just celebrating one guy's suffering.  You're just a petty, vindictive, asshole that is happy to drag your own character down.   For people constantly going on about forcibly transforming society, the thing staring them in the face, that they actually have control over, that they can actually make a dent in their contribution toward -- normalizing the celebration of an opponent's suffering, which leads to a shittier, more cruel, cold, and vindictive society to live in, is what they decide to do.

Bringing up the death of your fiance like this honestly feels more fucked than just saying that you're happy Biden has cancer. Like yeah, I'm sure that's how she wants to be remembered, to make petty internet arguments about how you really hope Biden dies

Yeah, lots of horrible posts in that thread, but that one in particular is fucking wild.

[benji]

Remember when they had the big forum-wide fight over whether or not people should post the accusations about Joe Biden being a sexual harasser. Or allowing BernieBros to keep attacking him as a centrist. Or all the attacks and bans handed out for anyone questioning his mental acuity or ability to continue in office or as the next candidate. We should go back in time and let them know they'll be celebrating him getting cancer at age 82.

"My god, what did he do, pardon Trump? Not drone strike PewDiePie for causing terrorism? Allow chuds back on Twitter?"
"No, supported Israel like he and the Democratic Party have for 50 years."

edit: Were they using chuds yet?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/#post-140152299

The male gaze is about objectification and dehumanization. There are three levels generally, the man directing the camera, the male characters in how they objectify, and the male audience who sees themselves as the subject. The female gaze is about subjectivity, women having agency and not just props for men. The female gaze is done by having female creators be in charge of the production.







There is a small example in film of how Wonder Woman is portrayed in her self-titled film by Patty Jenkins versus how Zack Snyder frames and characterises her. It even is about who made the outfits, so in Justice League the costume designer is Michael Wilkinson and in Wonder Woman it's Lindy Hemming.



[url unfurl=true]https://liviacamperi.medium.com/i-wonder-what-a-woman-is-a-superheroine-subject-to-the-male-gaze-e1bfc7e206f8[/url]



Jenkins defends the impractical footwear. "It's total wish-fulfillment," she says, adding that the warriors have flats for heavy fighting. "I, as a woman, want Wonder Woman to be hot as hell, fight badass, and look great at the same time — the same way men want Superman to have huge pecs and an impractically big body. That makes them feel like the hero they want to be. And my hero, in my head, has really long legs."

TV show







Wonder Woman film







Wonder Woman on left, Justice League on right







Wonder Woman outfits







Wonder Woman on left, Justice League on right







Justice League











Then there is the big example of how Harley Quinn is portrayed in Suicide Squad versus Birds Of Prey.



[url unfurl=true media=youtube:1MTtYyZ1zd8]https://youtu.be/1MTtYyZ1zd8?si=30N32nzRhOx6zV8m[/url]

Jfc

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

can I get some mutual aid? I need a wlw transbian cock to suck.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/#post-140152299

The male gaze is about objectification and dehumanization. There are three levels generally, the man directing the camera, the male characters in how they objectify, and the male audience who sees themselves as the subject. The female gaze is about subjectivity, women having agency and not just props for men. The female gaze is done by having female creators be in charge of the production.







There is a small example in film of how Wonder Woman is portrayed in her self-titled film by Patty Jenkins versus how Zack Snyder frames and characterises her. It even is about who made the outfits, so in Justice League the costume designer is Michael Wilkinson and in Wonder Woman it's Lindy Hemming.



https://liviacamperi.medium.com/i-wonder-what-a-woman-is-a-superheroine-subject-to-the-male-gaze-e1bfc7e206f8



Jenkins defends the impractical footwear. "It's total wish-fulfillment," she says, adding that the warriors have flats for heavy fighting. "I, as a woman, want Wonder Woman to be hot as hell, fight badass, and look great at the same time — the same way men want Superman to have huge pecs and an impractically big body. That makes them feel like the hero they want to be. And my hero, in my head, has really long legs."

TV show







Wonder Woman film







Wonder Woman on left, Justice League on right







Wonder Woman outfits







Wonder Woman on left, Justice League on right







Justice League











Then there is the big example of how Harley Quinn is portrayed in Suicide Squad versus Birds Of Prey.



https://youtu.be/1MTtYyZ1zd8?si=30N32nzRhOx6zV8m

Jfc

of course a muslim would like their women dressed up and covered as much as possible. May all western women become as conservative and chaste, inshallah

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

Oops double post

this post deserves more likes

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-6
I was planning to post some good ones, but there are just too many. 

inb4 the lock

I love how HamasEra is bringing up the Rush death thread and the Trump covid thread. BLUEMAGA getting their shit pushed in. 

Edit: btw I'm a normal human being who actually wishes Biden and his family well and will pray for him because cancer sucks.

[BIONIC]

Messy, now make a long ass post detailing the difference between a regular marriage and buying a wife

[TylenolJones]

It's no wonder so many communities have moved on from Era. This thread is a perfect example of why.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-8#post-140152599

[davepoobond]

It’s joe bidens genocide just like it is Joe bidens economy right now

[simiansmarts]

We liberals just want to vote pragmatically for harm reduction, why are we considered the scum of the earth who deserve to be wiped out?

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/#post-140152299

The male gaze is about objectification and dehumanization. There are three levels generally, the man directing the camera, the male characters in how they objectify, and the male audience who sees themselves as the subject. The female gaze is about subjectivity, women having agency and not just props for men. The female gaze is done by having female creators be in charge of the production.

There is a small example in film of how Wonder Woman is portrayed in her self-titled film by Patty Jenkins versus how Zack Snyder frames and characterises her. It even is about who made the outfits, so in Justice League the costume designer is Michael Wilkinson and in Wonder Woman it's Lindy Hemming.

https://liviacamperi.medium.com/i-wonder-what-a-woman-is-a-superheroine-subject-to-the-male-gaze-e1bfc7e206f8

Jenkins defends the impractical footwear. "It's total wish-fulfillment," she says, adding that the warriors have flats for heavy fighting. "I, as a woman, want Wonder Woman to be hot as hell, fight badass, and look great at the same time — the same way men want Superman to have huge pecs and an impractically big body. That makes them feel like the hero they want to be. And my hero, in my head, has really long legs."

                     mansplaining?



Also, I love that his source uses the Whedon cut when there were all kinds of articles about the differences between the two male cuts:

‘Zack Snyder’s Justice League’ Got Rid of All Those Creepy Wonder Woman Butt Shots
By Meghan O'Keefe

17 cringeworthy moments toward women in 2017's 'Justice League' that are changed in Zack Snyder's cut
By Kirsten Acuna

Comparing Joss Whedon’s Treatment of the Amazons to Zack Snyder’s
Including how the fighting shifts between both versions for Diana.
By Rachel Leishman

The Justice League Snyder Cut Gave Me the Wonder Woman I Hoped For
By Rachel Leishman

‘Justice League’: Snyder Cut Delivers a Better Wonder Woman Than Joss Whedon, but She Still Deserves More
"Wonder Woman" filmmaker Patty Jenkins said she "tossed out" Whedon's take on the character; Snyder doesn't go that far, but his new version at least knows who the beloved superhero is at her core.
By Kate Erbland

But y'all aren't ready for that conversation if you're saying that "female gaze is done by having female creators be in charge of the production" on a $500 million blockbuster film.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Zack Snyder's Justice League has arguably the most offensive moment involving a woman in the two cuts though: Martha really being J'Onzz.

[Swiftest]

Wish they had left Echoes be unable to explain what they mean by women/lesbian gaze when that's their entire personality
But another poster calling him a gooner in the thread makes up for it

[BananaBlast]

Echos straight up admitted in his "I feel great generational shame for liking Makoto Nanaya, aaaahhh!!!!" post that he goons to porn (laughably disguised as "adult wlw art" and "sexualized adult art") and then hid it like a coward. All that "sexually objectified characters for the male gaze are inherently evil" bullshit flies straight out the window. The hypocrite swears up and down that big tiddied fictional women are nothing but the devil's work, shame on everyone who dare suggests they think they're hot ....and yet considers himself a "longtime fan" of the big tiddied squirrel girl lookalike.

And then boom, next day his new thread is quite literally "make a tits and ass fanservice fighter featuring my waifus!!!". Something that should be a RetardEra cardinal sin..... but it turns out the lunatics are okay with the idea, including a few burka thread regulars.

These fucking weirdos are such hypocrites and they use their progressive mental gymnastics to justify what they like despite ragging against it for years. Echos should've instantly been torn a new one for daring to suggest a game about a "Tits and Ass" game featuring characters they often cry about for being "sexualized" and "objectified" and "for gooners", but, of course, you can get away with it on RetardEra if you A. are one of the site's longstanding useful idiots B. throw in a bunch of progressive and feminist buzzwords C. you're trans

[Cheers]

#37
Niimu said:
Right, but what does that mean exactly?

Is this a look into that gaze difference?

Galactic Specter
OP literally uses an acronym for "tits & ass" in the title yet she has the disclaimer telling people to not be lewd or horny while proceeding to act like a total gooner in the rest of the post.

I don't think this is the kind of thread where you're gonna get deep discussion about the difference of female vs. male gaze and sexualization. Rules for thee, not for me

Going out like a King.

[Garfield]

Weren't they all planning on voting for Biden 2 years ago? 

[Daffy Duck]

I wonder how many times a day echo wanks themselves off to the fact of people posting in and feeding into their wlw lesbian fantasy posting in their threads

[benji]

Messofanego's argument is pretty much "if a woman made it, it's female gaze and therefore not problematic" but the Burka thread has informed me over and over again that this is NOT A VALID DEFENSE. Seems like somebody is not sitting down, shutting up and listening to the women in that thread.

[DocWager]

Echos straight up admitted in his "I feel great generational shame for liking Makoto Nanaya, aaaahhh!!!!" post that he goons to porn (laughably disguised as "adult wlw art" and "sexualized adult art") and then hid it like a coward. All that "sexually objectified characters for the male gaze are inherently evil" bullshit flies straight out the window. The hypocrite swears up and down that big tiddied fictional women are nothing but the devil's work, shame on everyone who dare suggests they think they're hot ....and yet considers himself a "longtime fan" of the big tiddied squirrel girl lookalike.

And then boom, next day his new thread is quite literally "make a tits and ass fanservice fighter featuring my waifus!!!". Something that should be a RetardEra cardinal sin..... but it turns out the lunatics are okay with the idea, including a few burka thread regulars.

These fucking weirdos are such hypocrites and they use their progressive mental gymnastics to justify what they like despite ragging against it for years. Echos should've instantly been torn a new one for daring to suggest a game about a "Tits and Ass" game featuring characters they often cry about for being "sexualized" and "objectified" and "for gooners", but, of course, you can get away with it on RetardEra if you A. are one of the site's longstanding useful idiots B. throw in a bunch of progressive and feminist buzzwords C. you're trans

It’s like slapping the words organic onto a big bag of peanut butter M&M’s all of a sudden makes it healthy. You label yourself a “woman”, and it’s OK to groom underage kids at this point in certain online social circles.

[benji]

Also "female gaze" and "male gaze" are pretty transphobic terms when you think about it. To quote renowned persecuted scholar Ana Valens:

VAllure’s audition requirements said the company only wanted “female” talent, with no additional clarification. “Female” can mean a lot of things. It can mean “anyone who identifies as a woman.” It can also mean “someone born with a specific set of genitals.”

This quickly left trans VTubers confused. Why “female” instead of “woman”? We figured this was just a minor point of linguistic confusion, so a number of us reached out for clarification last year to clear the air. But we never heard back. Not in emails. Not in tweets. Nor with a public statement. Nothing. Trans talent quickly feared the worst: Trans women weren’t welcome, and VAllure was going to dodge the question by leaving the answer murky.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-would-love-a-t-a-all-women-wlw-fighting-game-like-dead-or-alive-for-women.1192314/#post-140152299

The male gaze is about objectification and dehumanization. There are three levels generally, the man directing the camera, the male characters in how they objectify, and the male audience who sees themselves as the subject. The female gaze is about subjectivity, women having agency and not just props for men. The female gaze is done by having female creators be in charge of the production.







There is a small example in film of how Wonder Woman is portrayed in her self-titled film by Patty Jenkins versus how Zack Snyder frames and characterises her. It even is about who made the outfits, so in Justice League the costume designer is Michael Wilkinson and in Wonder Woman it's Lindy Hemming.



https://liviacamperi.medium.com/i-wonder-what-a-woman-is-a-superheroine-subject-to-the-male-gaze-e1bfc7e206f8



Jenkins defends the impractical footwear. "It's total wish-fulfillment," she says, adding that the warriors have flats for heavy fighting. "I, as a woman, want Wonder Woman to be hot as hell, fight badass, and look great at the same time — the same way men want Superman to have huge pecs and an impractically big body. That makes them feel like the hero they want to be. And my hero, in my head, has really long legs."

TV show







Wonder Woman film







Wonder Woman on left, Justice League on right







Wonder Woman outfits







Wonder Woman on left, Justice League on right







Justice League











Then there is the big example of how Harley Quinn is portrayed in Suicide Squad versus Birds Of Prey.



https://youtu.be/1MTtYyZ1zd8?si=30N32nzRhOx6zV8m

Jfc

I think the problem they haven't quite realized is, that as far as I can tell, "female gaze" as a concept pretty much excludes the idea of sexualization. You can't be sexualized and female gazy, it's an oxymoron.

[simiansmarts]

Damn man. Y'all ain't helping!

$9 off from a Nintendo switch 2 bundle with Mario kart world ain’t too shabby!

[Swiftest]

They really going at him
Emergency karma-farm thread in the making as we speak

[BananaBlast]

If Echos wasn't such a careless Buffon, he could've said the "TNA" actually stood for "Total Nonstop Action" instead. Like the wrestling federation.

Good thing he didn't though. 

[Mask]

They really going at him
Emergency karma-farm thread in the making as we speak

That post is against the official Era narrative, so we are about to see some people get shot.

[Lonewulfeus]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-10#post-140154036

How it's permissible to say this but I got a three-day ban for saying someone is attractive is beyond me.

Cause he’s on the right side of history and you’re a fucking chud obviously. 

[Cheers]

That Biden thread is wilder than I thought.

[DocWager]

If Echos wasn't such a careless Buffon, he could've said the "TNA" actually stood for "Total Nonstop Action" instead. Like the wrestling federation.

Good thing he didn't though. 

He follows this forum, and is possibly one of the posters here. so it wouldn’t shock me if he decides to move some goal posts. By the way, so many people lurking here because that thread had very little activity and was pushed off to another page. Linking that thread here all of a sudden brought the activity up in there.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/joe-biden-diagnosed-with-an-aggressive-form-of-prostate-cancer.1192491/page-8#post-140153325

Biden is basically the Bin Laden for Palestinians.

Put your self in their shoes before you start coming in here defending Biden.