Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[Potato]

My parents took me to see The Fox And The Hound then Bambi. Fucking traumatized for life. After those two nothing was shocking. The Exorcist? Walk in the park. Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Jog on fatty.

My parents bought us Watership Down on VHS. Fuck your feelings.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wkd-box-office-%E2%80%A2-05-23-25-25-%E2%80%A2-ohana-means-no-money-gets-left-behind-l-s-180m-4-day.1198461/page-3#post-140450019

Thunderbolts is not a bomb or a flop. And to be honest, it's difficult to know what Disney's expectations were for a difficult-to-market film with mostly D-list characters.

The first Suicide Squad made $750+ million.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-are-people-still-doing-on-x-twitter.1198110/

It's akin to everyone in Gemany in the 1930s tuning in to Nazi radio. Why the fuck anyone is still using it is beyond me, but they all seem happy to continue along the same trajectory that Germany was on.

Starting in 1933 they didn't have much choice about what to tune into.

[Potato]

SpellSwordFoxx defending ZeoVGM

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Criticizing Disney live action remakes is like the ultimate hot button issue for nerds lol

1. you get accused of not seein the movie. gotta provide receipts now.
2. you get accused of being nostalgia blind. which is weird, because the advertisin for these remakes is bankin on a lot of nostalgia to begin with.
3. you get accused of bein a chud, or chud adjacent. youtube algorithm brain rot criticism has ruined movie discourse, and I hate it.
4. you get accused of not wanting projects with PoC stars to succeed. I hate that Disney gets to use us minorities as a shield when its convienient.

Meanwhile; Disney is laughin all the way to the bank. Donating money to anti-woke causes, cutting woke characters, and cuttin DEI practices, and enjoyin the free defense squad for the movie. I still remember when Mulan was filmed in goddamn the Xinjiang province just to save a buck.

I almost gotta respect Disney for finding a damn near winning formula of infinite money with the majority of these remakes making more money than god.

Joined in Feb 2025. 

Didn't someone say we need to see the Marvels to promote PoC women in films? I wonder who..

What the fuck's with dropping the "g" on all the words ending in "ing" except for a select few?

[Potato]

 Zeo please take the L. Even the mods are trying to urge you to stop.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spoilers-lilo-stitch-remake-has-a-new-ending-and-fans-are-very-divided.1197924/page-14#post-140462268

Actual, Zeo. My friend, and I truly mean that.

Think about how hard you advocate for so many Marvel movies, that other people think are pieces of shit because they didn't like XYZ.

I have literally seen you compare original stories to adaptations for Marvel movies and talk about how it's okay that they're different.

And you and I. Marvel Comics mean so much to us! But we both can accept changes to those stories. Even when we don't like it we can accept that it's a different view of the story and the changes aren't inherently bad or change the original story.

The original Lilo and Stitch is always going to be there. Just like the original Extremis story adapted into Iron Man 3 is always going to be there. Or the original Infinity Gauntlet is always going to be there.


It's okay to not like it. It's also okay to like it.

To use a Disney remake example... When I was growing up and got sick and couldn't go to school for a few days. My parents would rent Aladdin and it's sequels. I'd watch them on repeat. I think they actually had to buy Return of Jafar from the rental store because I watched the VHS on repeat so much that the tape snapped.

It's my favorite set of Disney Animated movies to this day...

I also love the live action Aladdin movie. I think it's weaker than the original for sure. Very low energy for most of the musical numbers. And damnit the Jasmine song sucks and Jafar still doesn't get a real villain song. But the spirit is there

And the original is always still there.

To kind of sum up what I'm saying. When I was 20. My friends climbed in a car and drove to a theater and watched the first X-Men movie.

On our way back my best friend of the time started to nitpick and I stopped them with, "Those changes don't matter. The spirit remained."

Now nearly 25 years later, I actually would rather watch the Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie than any of those original X-Men movies. But the spirit was there, even if the execution didn't work for me personally.

That's how I view the two Lilo and Stitch movies. The spirit is there. Even if you don't like the execution. And that is better than most of the live action remakes.

Every time man. Every time they pull back the curtain just a little bit, everything becomes clear.

[benji]

Can't we just agree that everyone on both sides of these Disney debates is a chud? Instead of rewarding Zaslav they could be giving money to trans people or arming up and getting in the streets.

[simiansmarts]

Jeff is still at it huh... 
 

[Boredfrom]

Sounds like true to the game, the dykes get fucked over for the straight woman protagonist. At least Yev should get plenty of screentime, assuming they don't drop the ball and double down on all the transphobia.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-last-of-us-hbo-series-season-2-game-spoiler-ot-too-good-to-be-gone-open-game-spoilers.1160046/page-149#post-140468058

[Garfield]

Of course, the people who believe this also believe that the "economic issue" is that they don't have enough money to buy all the Pokemon cards and ps5 games they want, and they believe the "meaningful way to address this issue" is to hand them money.

[benji]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the perceived enemies you can't seem to defeat by doing nothing aren't stupid and ignorant they're really just sinister master manipulators who have a complete understanding of the human mind.

Also by "right-wing politicians" they mean any elected party. Consenting to capitalist neoliberal "democracy" is complicity in fascism, not even close to actually progressive "left-wing" organizing.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-military-shifts-messaging-in-africa-telling-allies-to-prepare-to-stand-on-own.1198530/
Of course they are complaining the U.S. is getting out of Africa

You'll never win with these dopes.

Nep shows up to drop her hot take

Right? The entire African continent has no meaningful allyship with the United States.

 
'American hegemonic soft-power is bad because...le colonialism!!' 

 
 
I fucking hate this retarded populism that twists itself into pretzels to justify why providing aid to famished and war-torn regions of Africa is bad actually. Never forget how every thread raising awareness for areas like Sudan are met with crickets on RE. Leftists like Nep DO NOT care so long as they get to do moral posturing for their online community.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/paramilitary-fighters-massacre-hundreds-of-civilians-in-southern-sudan.1180974/

FACT CHECK: The United States should drop $800 trillion in US currency over Africa to return the stolen wealth then seal off the continent completely to permanently protect it from white cultural appropriation and exploitation. Perhaps with that literal dome of iron that Trump wanted to build over America.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-switch-2-hands-on-preview-thread.1154013/page-12#post-140469195

I haven’t seen these two in many months, but they’re back with another video -

Didn't they make fun of Dinga Bakaba's name a while back?

And apologized to him. And he accepted it. They all moved on long ago.

Ah, noted.

[benji]

When's that Edmond Dante dude going to get on this level?

The Tama-Re compound in Putnam County, Georgia (a.k.a. "Kodesh", "Wahannee", "The Golden City", "Al Tamaha") was an Egyptian-themed set of buildings and monuments established in 1993 on 476 acres near Eatonton. It was founded by the group, Nuwaubian Nation, that also had a variety of esoteric beliefs and was led by Dwight D. York.
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After the move, York declared affiliation with the Yamasee indigenous people, and adopted a variety of Egyptian and esoteric themes, claiming that the community was descended from ancient migrants to the Americas from Egypt.
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New York Press in November 2000 described the constructions completed in the compound:

Not long after you're pretty sure you've gone too far, roll up and over one last hill and the pyramids are right there. There's a black one and a gold one, and a brown-faced sphinx facing the road, and a tall obelisk, and an arch-shaped gate decorated with ankhs and other hieroglyphs, through which runs a road lined with statues of mostly animal-headed deities, all brightly painted in primary colors. Farther back, up on the rise, is a recognizable one, Isis, with ebony skin and her winged arms spread. No level of expectation can dilute the surprise—you can't believe what you're seeing. Tama-Re, Egypt of the West, has that Magic Kingdom quality.[5]

In 2001, the Religious Movements Homepage Project at the University of Virginia reported on Tama-Re:

Armed guards stand at the entrance to Tama-Re. Approximately 100 Nuwaubians live within 15 double-wide trailers within this complex. There are approximately another 400 more Nuwaubians within Putnam County (population 14,000). At this current complex the Nuwaubians have constructed an Egyptian-style village with two pyramids, obelisks, and statues of Egyptian leaders. The two pyramids are distinct in appearance and in usage. There is a gold pyramid that serves as a trade center. Within this pyramid one can find a bookstore and a clothing store. The other pyramid is painted black with colorful Egyptian symbols painted on the outside. This structure serves as a church. Within the church, loudspeakers play Egyptian chants 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.[6]

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The judge rejected his plea to be returned for trial to his own "tribe", after York claimed status as an indigenous person:

Your Honor, with all due respects to your government, your nation, and your court, we the indigenous people of this land have our own rights, accepted sovereign, our own governments. We are a sovereign people, Yamassee, Native American Creeks, Seminole, Washitaw Mound Builders. And all I'm asking is that the Court recognize that I am an indigenous person. Your court does not have jurisdiction over me. I should be transferred to the Moors Cherokee Council Court in which I will get a trial by juries of my peers. I cannot get a fair trial, Your Honor, if I'm being tried by the settlers or the confederates. I have to be tried by Native Americans as a Native American. That's my inalienable rights, and it's on record.[34]

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York's followers have said that since 1999 York has been a Consul General of Monrovia, Liberia, under appointment from then-President Charles Taylor. They argue he should be given diplomatic immunity from prosecution and extradited as a persona non grata to Liberia.[41]
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York has claimed to be an extraterrestrial master teacher from the planet Rizq. He wrote, "We have been coming to this planet before it had your life form on it. ... My incarnation as an Ilah Mutajassid or Avatara was originally in the year 1945 A.D. In order to get here I travelled by one of the smaller passenger crafts called SHAM out of a Motherplane called MERKABAH or NIBIRU." This version of York came to Earth on March 16, 1970. (Comet Bennett, which was visible on that date, is said to have really been York's spacecraft.) York taught that the Motherplane/NIBIRU would launch the Crystal City or New Jerusalem (see: Book of Revelation 21:2) to our solar system from its position in Orion. A 40-year process of taking the 144,000 Chosen Few (see: Book of Revelation 14:1)—12,000 each from the Twelve Tribes of Israel—into the Planet Craft NIBIRU began on August 12, 2003, and will end on August 12, 2043. These Chosen Few will be groomed for 1,000 years and returned to Earth for the final battle against the Luciferians and also to redeem man from the 6,000-year rulership of the Devil and his seed.

[Boredfrom]

That is an enemy base from the Hundred Line game.

East Asian appropriates African culture yet again. 

[Taco Bell Tower]

 Zeo please take the L. Even the mods are trying to urge you to stop.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spoilers-lilo-stitch-remake-has-a-new-ending-and-fans-are-very-divided.1197924/page-14#post-140462268

Actual, Zeo. My friend, and I truly mean that.

Think about how hard you advocate for so many Marvel movies, that other people think are pieces of shit because they didn't like XYZ.

I have literally seen you compare original stories to adaptations for Marvel movies and talk about how it's okay that they're different.

And you and I. Marvel Comics mean so much to us! But we both can accept changes to those stories. Even when we don't like it we can accept that it's a different view of the story and the changes aren't inherently bad or change the original story.

The original Lilo and Stitch is always going to be there. Just like the original Extremis story adapted into Iron Man 3 is always going to be there. Or the original Infinity Gauntlet is always going to be there.


It's okay to not like it. It's also okay to like it.

To use a Disney remake example... When I was growing up and got sick and couldn't go to school for a few days. My parents would rent Aladdin and it's sequels. I'd watch them on repeat. I think they actually had to buy Return of Jafar from the rental store because I watched the VHS on repeat so much that the tape snapped.

It's my favorite set of Disney Animated movies to this day...

I also love the live action Aladdin movie. I think it's weaker than the original for sure. Very low energy for most of the musical numbers. And damnit the Jasmine song sucks and Jafar still doesn't get a real villain song. But the spirit is there

And the original is always still there.

To kind of sum up what I'm saying. When I was 20. My friends climbed in a car and drove to a theater and watched the first X-Men movie.

On our way back my best friend of the time started to nitpick and I stopped them with, "Those changes don't matter. The spirit remained."

Now nearly 25 years later, I actually would rather watch the Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie than any of those original X-Men movies. But the spirit was there, even if the execution didn't work for me personally.

That's how I view the two Lilo and Stitch movies. The spirit is there. Even if you don't like the execution. And that is better than most of the live action remakes.

ZeoVagina

That's all incredible valid and I have nothing to push back on. I also think the Aladdin remake is super underrated.

With you on Return of Jafar too. I adored that as a kid. It was that, A Goofy Movie, and the (probably really bad) Tom & Jerry movie that got constant use in the VCR.

[benji]

same reason why people still post on a forum thats purged most if its staunchest anti-zionists and lefties

Going backwards a page from that post first:

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's kinda ironic considering how this forum originated.
I left twitter when my feeds became full of Elon posts and other Nazi shit. I'd rather be in a platform where keeping the Nazis out doesn't require me to spend hours curating my feed.

It is, very.

Unless a person has some need to use the site for something outside of basic entertainment/news that I can't think of, anyone still using it is absolutely not an ally and/or is actively supportive of the site's owner.

Everyone likes to post the story about how you have to kick Nazis out of the bar before they turn it into a Nazi bar, but it turns out there's another possible ending to that story aside from "bar is all Nazis or no Nazis." Turns out, even once it becomes a Nazi bar, a lot of the regulars will keep going because it's easier than finding a new place. So now it's a Nazi bar with a lot of folks who insist they're not with them. Some of those people are probably less resilient towards being immersed in Nazi shit than they think they are, which is how Nazis recruit.

from my experience they are following terrible bigots and bragging about it

It's the same as people in the Xbox BDS threads saying stuff like "well, if I boycotted Xbox then I wouldn't get to have Game Pass, and we all know that can't happen"

Like, what are you even talking about??

Ironically i usually see more elon tweets on bluesky than actual twitter these days because people on bluesky seem to obsessed with screenshotting things from twitter and dunking on them.

I only use my following tab on twitter and i haven't really seen much of elon or any other right wingers simply because i don't follow them. I use a extension to block this grok AI stuff and all the algorithm bullshit.

Sure replies are often a cesspit but they always been. Outside of more ads (which i actively block wherever i can on twitter)my timeline hasn't really changed that much.

So because you're closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears it's okay.

EDIT: I'm probably going to take a ban if I stay in this thread, so I'm putting it on ignore. I honestly can't believe how many of you are okay with supporting this site.

And in this case the analogy only works if the bar was bought by a nazi, who then invited all of the nazis who were previously banned back to the bar, for the sole purpose of using the bar to indoctrinate everyone who walks through the doors in nazi propaganda.

People's reasons for staying on X are a fascinating insight into why companies continue to enshittify.

"All my friends are still there."
"It's not so bad if I...."
"That's always been like that."
"It's just as bad anywhere else."

It's the perfect microcosm for how society has gotten to where it is. 10-20 years ago enshittification used to kill behemoths of sites because it was so much easier for the average user to say "well fuck you, then". Now the internet has been compacted into a few social fiefdoms where nobody feels empowered to do anything even when they know things have gotten bad.

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's abhorrent

This.

I don't get all those nazi posts that everyone say they do. Also, I don't follow USA focused accoinrs or people.

The owner of the platform is LITERALLY a Nazi, how hard is this to understand?

And the world doesn't revolve the US, and if I want local update from politician and my countries various ministry on other stuff, Facebook and Twitter is sitll what's used, and if I want to contact my local representative, Twitter and facebook is still the best way to reach them.

The rest of your post makes complete sense but the first part is a little odd. It's not like the definition of a Nazi changes from country to country.

... And Elon Musk is supporting Nazi political parties all and the world, not just in the USA

If you're still on X then every interaction you have is bankrolling a global Nazi movement

And the world doesn't revolve the US, and if I want local update from politician and my countries various ministry on other stuff, Facebook and Twitter is sitll what's used, and if I want to contact my local representative, Twitter and facebook is still the best way to reach them.

And thank God for Elon Musk for providing that one and only channel. The world might not revolve around the US but apparently your representation in your country's government revolves around a nazi.

It shouldn't be super surprising. We had no shortage of people dismissing the threat of Trump or talking about sending Democrats a message by not voting against him. As much as people say certain things matter to them most people are pretty comfortable consuming stuff from their phones and acting like it's awful those things that are happening to people. But they were never truly worried about orange Hitler because they figured their existence wouldn't change much. Or at least not worried an enough to work towards defeating him and for some the 5 minutes of filling out something was too much.

So to quit X being insurmountable for so many because "but you don't understand it's the best at…" makes sense.

JFC, humanity is doomed because people are too selfish to overcome their social media addictions and continue to justify them in any way possible 🤦🤦🤦 It's just beyond fucking belief! And furthermore people are actually proudly proclaiming their special reasons that they need to keep supporting fascists and Nazis because their particular addiction is just far too important and special. I'm out, you guys can all justify away to your hearts content but you're all part of the problem.

I don't get it either, era itself felt like it dragged its feet before they finally got to it too.

I don't really get the news excuse too. Do y'all really need every bit of news asap? Like if your government posted something on Twitter it'll get reported to your country/region/local news. Like we all seemed to functioned pretty well before the creation of Twitter.

Most of the ERA's posts came from Twitter. I've noticed fewer news and updates on here since the ban.

People not leaving their table at the Nazi bar 'cause of some sports idols and artists on a whole other table in the same Nazi bar. They'd probably rarely if ever had a conversation or would recognize or even know each other outside of the bar. They just really enjoy being in the same bar. The bar owner is throwing salutes to his hollering fans right at the next table but man, this bar is great.

Advertisers still paying money to Twitter are morally bankrupt. That everyone with a shred of decency hasn't taken the minimally inconveniencing step of moving to a nearly 1:1 alternative is an indictment on society.

Annoyingly the majority of the companies and people I follow never switched over to Bluesky.

So, legit question:

Why is peoples thought in this case "well I guess then I should stay as well", and not "well if they like to hang with Nazis, they probably weren't worth following in the first place"?

Because it would be silly of me to assume that everyone using Twitter is a Nazi.

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

I guess people don't care about frequenting nazi bar. For multiple reasons, they chose to stay there. Wild but expected given human nature.

All the folks saying they don't see the rivers of racist sewage that flow through the place... Its owned and run by a literal nazi. A nazi who bought the platform so he could use it to disseminate nazi propaganda, help get Trump elected, and influence elections to get other fascists elected in Europe. The fact you're just there to talk about baseball is irrelevant. You're still supporting a nazi.

I really hope Europe will take action against Elon Musk and X (an outright ban shouldn't be possible, but there are other ways to penalize this platform), though I'm not holding my breath.

Apparently Elon Musk is just an American problem.

"Elon Musk endorses AFD"

Get off the fucking nazi website.

The websites you visit, the apps you use, the businesses you spend your money at. These are all political choices. Choices that have real world consequences. Nearly all of the tech companies that blew up over the last 30 years have grown so large they have far too much influence over our lives and far too much power in the world. And with Trump, they just showed everyone that they are willing to elevate fascists to positions of power when it suits them. Musk has shown the world that he's a white supremacist nazi piece of shit over and over and over again. And this is the richest man in the world. It's time everyone start thinking a lot harder about their role in all of this. If you're not a nazi fascist piece of shit then stop patronising nazi fascist piece of shit organisations.

I'm not American.

Nazis are an international problem, not an excuse.

I'm not American.

Neither am I.

It is not an excuse.

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

You were never going to get an honest answer to your question.

i wonder the reaction if you could go back in time and tell the people that were risking their lives fighting the Nazis, that in the future one of the biggest networks where people interact is owned by a neo-nazi doing salutes in public, and interfering with elections/spreading right wing bullshit and discourse, and instead of pushing back, people are just still using the platform, and can't be bothered to change to any other website/community because reasons.

The nazi bar is a perfect allegory, really. We know many of the tech companies do bullshit in the shadows so at least people can pretend they do not know, but with X, Elon is basically filling people's eyes with shit blatantly, 24/7.

For me, the site has a really high average quality of intellectual discussion cuz I've curated it that way. I do not see fascist content presented without comment... pretty much ever.

But the owner is literally a nazi and everyone using the site is furthering his goals, it doesn't matter how curated your feed is, it doesn't matter if you don't see it, that doesn't make it go away.

Sure. In much the same way that my continual usage of Windows supports the Gaza genocide, there is something unconscionable about using Twitter. I'm in agreement there. However, because of the milieu I find myself in, the points of analysis people make when discussing Musk's power, how he gained it, how he perpetuates it - it looks much more like systems analysis stuff. Yesterday I was reading this article on the new Abundance book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson (because this book continues to be a pain in the side of the left contingent even a month on, there is a desire to demonstrate how thoroughly limited its analysis is), there is a section about Musk's rise to power in there. I'll quote it at length.

I'm sorry, but the owner literally threw a nazi salute and is actively propagating overt neo-nzai agendas. Anyone continuing to use his platform is helping his goals, it doesn't matter if that's not your intent and it doesn't matter if you personally deleting your account makes a 000000000.1% impact on Musk's power.

It's about drawing a line in the sand at supporting a man who threw a fucking HH salute, it shouldn't matter how little that support amounts to. That suppot should be 0.0%.

Yes, living in a capitalist society means we're all contributing to systemic issues with our consumption habits. To be perfect here is unavoidable, many people need to use technologies and services for their livlihoods, etc...

But, if you're only using Twitter for entertainment and news because of its convenience, this can be replaced with something else far more easily than other things like operating systems on your PC, or phones etc... it doesn't cost you any money to delete your account, all it costs is a bit of inconvenience when sourcing your entertainment and news in future.

Don't even try to whatabsoutism this, there's no excuse.... especially when most people are literally just using the site for entertainment and convenience.

The guy was standing in the Whitehouse last week with the president of the United fucking States, forcing the president of South Africa to watch white supremacist brain rot conspiracy theories about white genocide as if they were generally accepted facts. We're way beyond some abstract notions, or future what ifs. Nazis are in the fucking whitehouse. What do you think happens next? Just get off the fucking nazi propaganda platform.

There are plenty of real leftists on Bluesky, but I guess the website crawling with Nazis is more preferable than the one with liberals for some reason. Moreover, there is just something about Twitter that attracts the worst kind of leftists: the annoying ones who are enamored with lame dunks, petty squabbles, and clout chasing.

There are far better intellectual conversations to be had on TikTok, Reddit, and Bluesky.

One thing that's true for the internet and real life imo, is people would genuinely rather hang out at a Nazi bar than like outside a library.

Sure there are Nazis at the bar, and they constantly talk about how certain people are subhuman, but ya know, the squares are at the library.

Also, this is a bit of a sidenote, but it's wild to me how much we make fun of wine moms when they're like the only group who seem to understand that it's always important to vote against Republicans.

folks are really looking for any excuse to justify their addiction to the nazi site, huh

'but bsky is lame' is such a fucking self-report

This thread is such a depressing read. People will really come up with any non-work (I'm giving the benefit of doubt to those whose livelihood depends on exposure/managing there) related reason to sustain their social media addiction on a blatantly Nazi owned service.

NGL at this point "but work" isn't an excuse anymore., especially if we're talking about personal accounts. I'm really curious about these highly sought after accounts that apparently only exist on Twitter to follow, that seem to be much more important to stare at then leaving the Nazi site. Weirdly enough no one named any. I figure it's wrestling, very unsurprisingly.

If you're still on X at this point then you may not think you're personally a Nazi but your actively supporting people who are Nazis

Yeah, end of discussion really.

I ain't leaving until the ship sinks
I created my account before dumbass Musk so there for I own twitter
Plus I never updated the app so it's still called Twitter for me 😎

The ship has sunk. It's owned by a literal fascist who uses it as platform to spew and promote repugnant ideas and users at the expense decency.
That's not how ownership works, Elon Musk owns Twitter.
That literally doesn't mean a thing.

That many find this the only place to find your "community" is just gross. If your "community" only exists on this website, maybe make the smallest of effort and look elsewhere rather than just accept it? Just find it complete goblin behavior that people are willing to admit on this website that they "care" about the awfulness of the website, but it apparently it hasn't crossed the threshold yet for them?

I try not to be judgmental of folks who stayed,

Why? I absolutely will, especially if some of those guys want to lesson me about other social topics in the future while gleefully fence sitting on Twitter.

The Nazi bar table comparison is completely legit.

Yeah it's getting gross tbh. There comes a point where you have to start asking the question, if you're okay with being in the Nazi bar, what does that make you?

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

X? Run by a Nazi.

Bluesky? Userbase are BLUEMAGA who tell Palestinians to shut the fuck up about their pain and forgive Biden.

I don't think there's an easy winner like Era wants.

Twitter is still simply better to get news and discussion about Palestine.

There's also lots of reports of Palestinian accounts being deleted on bluesky.

I'd rather be where the news is for news. All I see on Bluesky is LIBERALS* being cringe.

*Liberals are NOT leftists.

[Polident]

Passed by a taxi earlier and in a sort of Engrish way it read “THE contribution to society”. And I’m reminded of when an Xbox exec made a gaf account to ask a member that question. Whatever presence or value these forums had is gone.

[HaughtyFrank]

I'm begging them to come up with an analogy besides the Nazi bar

[HaughtyFrank]

It was sarcasm.

https://imgur.com/a/PntP8LW
This massive SUBSCRIBE NOW button feels too much in my face. Was there a reason it was recently added there and not, say, in the sidebar? I'm happy to support by allowing ads, and that's not going to change anytime soon as the limited feature set of the sub doesn't appeal to me.

SUBSCRIBE NOW also throws off the centering of the search box

On mobile, is it possible to move this new SUBSCRIBE NOW button closer to the pfp icon and away from the "quick jump" drop down menu button?

Its not bothering me that its there, but it is bothering me that I keep fat-fingering the SUBSCRIBE NOW button. (Also less important but removing "NOW", to make it smaller, would be nice too)

Edit: I just realized the search button on my phone got pushed off the bar on top, and I have to scroll over to see it

that "subscribe now" is nasty work lmao

That sub now link is really bad and so damn tacky...

SUBSCRIBE NOW

Dear god what is this addition

Yes, yes. We're adjusting it more. Just gotta wait for timezones to line up.

SUBSCRIBE NOW

APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD

I gotta admit, the memes are pretty funny.

Give it a few hours and we'll have it fixed up a bit more and make sure it doesn't show up on mobile devices because that is not intended.

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[Propagandhim]

I'm begging them to come up with an analogy besides the Nazi bar

I got one: a 'Supporting Industry Partners Bar' when it comes to Resetera's totally consistent policies on pro-genocide companies like baby-killing Microsoft or other AAA studios like Activision Blizzard that are full of rapists we can't apply the same moderation standards to.

[Snoopy]

My parents took me to see The Fox And The Hound then Bambi. Fucking traumatized for life. After those two nothing was shocking. The Exorcist? Walk in the park. Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Jog on fatty.

My parents bought us Watership Down on VHS. Fuck your feelings.

Nobody cares about your stupid rabbits Lennie

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/those-with-an-off-day-due-the-us-holiday-what-are-you-doing.1198794/#post-140474562

Happy Memorial Day!

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-142#post-140474805

Download fest is going to have nonbinary/neutral gendered toilets in addition to the regular male/female and of course the Autogynos hate they can't piss in a Ladies porta potty.

Fucking segregated portaloos.

PORTALOOS. They aren't fucking gendered in the first place.
(Unless they have been recently, I haven't been to any of the big festivals since my 20s)

If Kunty and the other incels can't piss standing up in a womans toilet what's the point of pretending to be a girl?

this is bullshit


EDIT:
EchosthePervert is worried too

I really hope Pride events don't try to pull stuff like this :(

Again...


Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't make you more of a woman. Pissing in a womans toilet doesn't cure you mental illness or make you a woman. jfc, even when you try to do the right thing they will still crucify you. Thats why you do the opposite of what plagerized groomed wife said. Enabling their behavior only makes them worse.

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/spoilers-lilo-stitch-remake-has-a-new-ending-and-fans-are-very-divided.1197924/page-14

BECAUSE MY SIS HALLE BAILEY DESERVED A BETTER MOVIE AND I WILL DIE ON THAT HILL.

I assume you mean Catwoman. And I always find it funny that the comic adaptation is so much better than the movie. After you read the comic adaptation you realize how much executive meddling must have happened during the making of that movie.

[Cheers]

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same reason why people still post on a forum thats purged most if its staunchest anti-zionists and lefties

Going backwards a page from that post first:

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's kinda ironic considering how this forum originated.
I left twitter when my feeds became full of Elon posts and other Nazi shit. I'd rather be in a platform where keeping the Nazis out doesn't require me to spend hours curating my feed.

It is, very.

Unless a person has some need to use the site for something outside of basic entertainment/news that I can't think of, anyone still using it is absolutely not an ally and/or is actively supportive of the site's owner.

Everyone likes to post the story about how you have to kick Nazis out of the bar before they turn it into a Nazi bar, but it turns out there's another possible ending to that story aside from "bar is all Nazis or no Nazis." Turns out, even once it becomes a Nazi bar, a lot of the regulars will keep going because it's easier than finding a new place. So now it's a Nazi bar with a lot of folks who insist they're not with them. Some of those people are probably less resilient towards being immersed in Nazi shit than they think they are, which is how Nazis recruit.

from my experience they are following terrible bigots and bragging about it

It's the same as people in the Xbox BDS threads saying stuff like "well, if I boycotted Xbox then I wouldn't get to have Game Pass, and we all know that can't happen"

Like, what are you even talking about??

Ironically i usually see more elon tweets on bluesky than actual twitter these days because people on bluesky seem to obsessed with screenshotting things from twitter and dunking on them.

I only use my following tab on twitter and i haven't really seen much of elon or any other right wingers simply because i don't follow them. I use a extension to block this grok AI stuff and all the algorithm bullshit.

Sure replies are often a cesspit but they always been. Outside of more ads (which i actively block wherever i can on twitter)my timeline hasn't really changed that much.

So because you're closing your eyes and putting your fingers in your ears it's okay.

EDIT: I'm probably going to take a ban if I stay in this thread, so I'm putting it on ignore. I honestly can't believe how many of you are okay with supporting this site.

And in this case the analogy only works if the bar was bought by a nazi, who then invited all of the nazis who were previously banned back to the bar, for the sole purpose of using the bar to indoctrinate everyone who walks through the doors in nazi propaganda.

People's reasons for staying on X are a fascinating insight into why companies continue to enshittify.

"All my friends are still there."
"It's not so bad if I...."
"That's always been like that."
"It's just as bad anywhere else."

It's the perfect microcosm for how society has gotten to where it is. 10-20 years ago enshittification used to kill behemoths of sites because it was so much easier for the average user to say "well fuck you, then". Now the internet has been compacted into a few social fiefdoms where nobody feels empowered to do anything even when they know things have gotten bad.

The amount of people ITT just casually stating they still use the site is absurd.

It's abhorrent

This.

I don't get all those nazi posts that everyone say they do. Also, I don't follow USA focused accoinrs or people.

The owner of the platform is LITERALLY a Nazi, how hard is this to understand?

And the world doesn't revolve the US, and if I want local update from politician and my countries various ministry on other stuff, Facebook and Twitter is sitll what's used, and if I want to contact my local representative, Twitter and facebook is still the best way to reach them.

The rest of your post makes complete sense but the first part is a little odd. It's not like the definition of a Nazi changes from country to country.

... And Elon Musk is supporting Nazi political parties all and the world, not just in the USA

If you're still on X then every interaction you have is bankrolling a global Nazi movement

And the world doesn't revolve the US, and if I want local update from politician and my countries various ministry on other stuff, Facebook and Twitter is sitll what's used, and if I want to contact my local representative, Twitter and facebook is still the best way to reach them.

And thank God for Elon Musk for providing that one and only channel. The world might not revolve around the US but apparently your representation in your country's government revolves around a nazi.

It shouldn't be super surprising. We had no shortage of people dismissing the threat of Trump or talking about sending Democrats a message by not voting against him. As much as people say certain things matter to them most people are pretty comfortable consuming stuff from their phones and acting like it's awful those things that are happening to people. But they were never truly worried about orange Hitler because they figured their existence wouldn't change much. Or at least not worried an enough to work towards defeating him and for some the 5 minutes of filling out something was too much.

So to quit X being insurmountable for so many because "but you don't understand it's the best at…" makes sense.

JFC, humanity is doomed because people are too selfish to overcome their social media addictions and continue to justify them in any way possible 🤦🤦🤦 It's just beyond fucking belief! And furthermore people are actually proudly proclaiming their special reasons that they need to keep supporting fascists and Nazis because their particular addiction is just far too important and special. I'm out, you guys can all justify away to your hearts content but you're all part of the problem.

I don't get it either, era itself felt like it dragged its feet before they finally got to it too.

I don't really get the news excuse too. Do y'all really need every bit of news asap? Like if your government posted something on Twitter it'll get reported to your country/region/local news. Like we all seemed to functioned pretty well before the creation of Twitter.

Most of the ERA's posts came from Twitter. I've noticed fewer news and updates on here since the ban.

People not leaving their table at the Nazi bar 'cause of some sports idols and artists on a whole other table in the same Nazi bar. They'd probably rarely if ever had a conversation or would recognize or even know each other outside of the bar. They just really enjoy being in the same bar. The bar owner is throwing salutes to his hollering fans right at the next table but man, this bar is great.

Advertisers still paying money to Twitter are morally bankrupt. That everyone with a shred of decency hasn't taken the minimally inconveniencing step of moving to a nearly 1:1 alternative is an indictment on society.

Annoyingly the majority of the companies and people I follow never switched over to Bluesky.

So, legit question:

Why is peoples thought in this case "well I guess then I should stay as well", and not "well if they like to hang with Nazis, they probably weren't worth following in the first place"?

Because it would be silly of me to assume that everyone using Twitter is a Nazi.

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

I guess people don't care about frequenting nazi bar. For multiple reasons, they chose to stay there. Wild but expected given human nature.

All the folks saying they don't see the rivers of racist sewage that flow through the place... Its owned and run by a literal nazi. A nazi who bought the platform so he could use it to disseminate nazi propaganda, help get Trump elected, and influence elections to get other fascists elected in Europe. The fact you're just there to talk about baseball is irrelevant. You're still supporting a nazi.

I really hope Europe will take action against Elon Musk and X (an outright ban shouldn't be possible, but there are other ways to penalize this platform), though I'm not holding my breath.

Apparently Elon Musk is just an American problem.

"Elon Musk endorses AFD"

Get off the fucking nazi website.

The websites you visit, the apps you use, the businesses you spend your money at. These are all political choices. Choices that have real world consequences. Nearly all of the tech companies that blew up over the last 30 years have grown so large they have far too much influence over our lives and far too much power in the world. And with Trump, they just showed everyone that they are willing to elevate fascists to positions of power when it suits them. Musk has shown the world that he's a white supremacist nazi piece of shit over and over and over again. And this is the richest man in the world. It's time everyone start thinking a lot harder about their role in all of this. If you're not a nazi fascist piece of shit then stop patronising nazi fascist piece of shit organisations.

I'm not American.

Nazis are an international problem, not an excuse.

I'm not American.

Neither am I.

It is not an excuse.

But I didn't say that, I said "fine hanging with Nazis. On a Nazi-led Platform. Full of Nazis."

You were never going to get an honest answer to your question.

i wonder the reaction if you could go back in time and tell the people that were risking their lives fighting the Nazis, that in the future one of the biggest networks where people interact is owned by a neo-nazi doing salutes in public, and interfering with elections/spreading right wing bullshit and discourse, and instead of pushing back, people are just still using the platform, and can't be bothered to change to any other website/community because reasons.

The nazi bar is a perfect allegory, really. We know many of the tech companies do bullshit in the shadows so at least people can pretend they do not know, but with X, Elon is basically filling people's eyes with shit blatantly, 24/7.

For me, the site has a really high average quality of intellectual discussion cuz I've curated it that way. I do not see fascist content presented without comment... pretty much ever.

But the owner is literally a nazi and everyone using the site is furthering his goals, it doesn't matter how curated your feed is, it doesn't matter if you don't see it, that doesn't make it go away.

Sure. In much the same way that my continual usage of Windows supports the Gaza genocide, there is something unconscionable about using Twitter. I'm in agreement there. However, because of the milieu I find myself in, the points of analysis people make when discussing Musk's power, how he gained it, how he perpetuates it - it looks much more like systems analysis stuff. Yesterday I was reading this article on the new Abundance book by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson (because this book continues to be a pain in the side of the left contingent even a month on, there is a desire to demonstrate how thoroughly limited its analysis is), there is a section about Musk's rise to power in there. I'll quote it at length.

I'm sorry, but the owner literally threw a nazi salute and is actively propagating overt neo-nzai agendas. Anyone continuing to use his platform is helping his goals, it doesn't matter if that's not your intent and it doesn't matter if you personally deleting your account makes a 000000000.1% impact on Musk's power.

It's about drawing a line in the sand at supporting a man who threw a fucking HH salute, it shouldn't matter how little that support amounts to. That suppot should be 0.0%.

Yes, living in a capitalist society means we're all contributing to systemic issues with our consumption habits. To be perfect here is unavoidable, many people need to use technologies and services for their livlihoods, etc...

But, if you're only using Twitter for entertainment and news because of its convenience, this can be replaced with something else far more easily than other things like operating systems on your PC, or phones etc... it doesn't cost you any money to delete your account, all it costs is a bit of inconvenience when sourcing your entertainment and news in future.

Don't even try to whatabsoutism this, there's no excuse.... especially when most people are literally just using the site for entertainment and convenience.

The guy was standing in the Whitehouse last week with the president of the United fucking States, forcing the president of South Africa to watch white supremacist brain rot conspiracy theories about white genocide as if they were generally accepted facts. We're way beyond some abstract notions, or future what ifs. Nazis are in the fucking whitehouse. What do you think happens next? Just get off the fucking nazi propaganda platform.

There are plenty of real leftists on Bluesky, but I guess the website crawling with Nazis is more preferable than the one with liberals for some reason. Moreover, there is just something about Twitter that attracts the worst kind of leftists: the annoying ones who are enamored with lame dunks, petty squabbles, and clout chasing.

There are far better intellectual conversations to be had on TikTok, Reddit, and Bluesky.

One thing that's true for the internet and real life imo, is people would genuinely rather hang out at a Nazi bar than like outside a library.

Sure there are Nazis at the bar, and they constantly talk about how certain people are subhuman, but ya know, the squares are at the library.

Also, this is a bit of a sidenote, but it's wild to me how much we make fun of wine moms when they're like the only group who seem to understand that it's always important to vote against Republicans.

folks are really looking for any excuse to justify their addiction to the nazi site, huh

'but bsky is lame' is such a fucking self-report

This thread is such a depressing read. People will really come up with any non-work (I'm giving the benefit of doubt to those whose livelihood depends on exposure/managing there) related reason to sustain their social media addiction on a blatantly Nazi owned service.

NGL at this point "but work" isn't an excuse anymore., especially if we're talking about personal accounts. I'm really curious about these highly sought after accounts that apparently only exist on Twitter to follow, that seem to be much more important to stare at then leaving the Nazi site. Weirdly enough no one named any. I figure it's wrestling, very unsurprisingly.

If you're still on X at this point then you may not think you're personally a Nazi but your actively supporting people who are Nazis

Yeah, end of discussion really.

I ain't leaving until the ship sinks
I created my account before dumbass Musk so there for I own twitter
Plus I never updated the app so it's still called Twitter for me 😎

The ship has sunk. It's owned by a literal fascist who uses it as platform to spew and promote repugnant ideas and users at the expense decency.
That's not how ownership works, Elon Musk owns Twitter.
That literally doesn't mean a thing.

That many find this the only place to find your "community" is just gross. If your "community" only exists on this website, maybe make the smallest of effort and look elsewhere rather than just accept it? Just find it complete goblin behavior that people are willing to admit on this website that they "care" about the awfulness of the website, but it apparently it hasn't crossed the threshold yet for them?

I try not to be judgmental of folks who stayed,

Why? I absolutely will, especially if some of those guys want to lesson me about other social topics in the future while gleefully fence sitting on Twitter.

The Nazi bar table comparison is completely legit.

Yeah it's getting gross tbh. There comes a point where you have to start asking the question, if you're okay with being in the Nazi bar, what does that make you?

I bet NepNep still uses her Twitter.

[benji]

I bet NepNep still uses her Twitter.

Say what you will about Nepenthe, she stopped posting on it (probably because people are watching) unlike somebody else (timestamps local for him):

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[Jansen]

Switch 2 Day is coming up quick 

[Jansen]

https://bsky.app/profile/acvalens.net/post/3lpz65kr3322i

[benji]

Now that I’m out of the convo, @nyara.vtube.social is facing extreme harassment from right-wingers. Yet no journalists nor major VTubers are speaking up for her. Is this the reality we face now? Trans VTubers run out of the space while cis people look on in silence? - A

What happened to VTubing? What happened to journalism? Don’t cover me, I can live with that. But @nyara.vtube.social deaerves IMMEDIATE and CRITICAL support. This kind of abuse fucks up a person’s life. Doubly so if they are a woman, triply if they are a trans woman. - A

It feels to me like everyone has abdicated responsibility to protect people like @nyara.vtube.social even though the biggest Twitch streamer is fucking railing on her. I’m actually ashamed of my profession rn. She deserves better. - A

It’s so bad I have to log back on here to demand someone do something. Hell, if it wasn’t a conflict of interest, I would write the damn thing myself - A

A total fucking embarrassment that this has been allowed to happen to her. Cis journalists should be ashamed — A

PS: I know conversations are happening behind the scenes, that people are aware and have opinions. But this harassment campaign receiving ZERO pushback, when Nyara is just speaking on behalf of trans people and trans rights… fucking nuts — A

Well, they probably can't get to it what with all the other daily big breaking news on the vTuber beat they cover.

[Cheers]

I bet NepNep still uses her Twitter.

Say what you will about Nepenthe, she stopped posting on it (probably because people are watching) unlike somebody else (timestamps local for him):

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D—Does he think he’s providing a public service by shushing chuds? Give me a fucking break.