Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 1)

[killamajig]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elder-teaches-a-canadian-lad-that-xbox-chat-isnt-real-life-after-dumbass-throw-food-at-mans-wife-in-a-tim-hortons.1218636/page-4#post-141496917
Parenting expert ZeoVGM weighs in. Bulletproof logic here: if the kid isn’t yours, game on, adults!

These dudes are all obsessed with language games to justify their behavior. If someone "assaults" me I'm free to "assault" them in any way and it's totally equal and not to be criticized! Call me the n-word, I kill you, same thing. Have something I think is mine, I slaughter a music festival, same thing. Throw food at my wife, I nuke the neighborhood, same thing. It's all just violence!

Benji doesn't miss

Reeee really needs some real lawyers on there and not just the Leftist ones.
If someone hits you with food or a fist it can be considered battery. Most states define it as "unwanted contact". Assault is feeling threatened with possible battery. And states have different degrees of both sometimes. And if the threat is over you can't get in one last shot without consequences. ( Unless some jury nullification happens)

But I guess this is Canada so it's pretty much like a Max Max movie up there. Either way I did laugh at the post slap face from the kid. 

[benji]

What if the kid was bald and instead of hitting them the guy made fun of them for being bald? Would this be hate speech that the man needs to be imprisoned for or should the kid get over it with low cost therapy? What if the kid was a former child star liberated from Disney?

[books]

What the fuck is cis queer?

Fake edit- Smile 2 was pretty awesome.

[Alpacx]

I don't necessarily think Netanyahu is lying, but I don't understand why Trump doesn't take the same argument seriously for Russia.  Russian military forces have worked with Hezbollah in Syria to support Assad.   Russia has been arming the Taliban in Afghanistan.  Russia maintains friendly relations with Hamas.  Russia actively engages with Houthi representatives in diplomacy and have met with them in Moscow and has provided the Houthis with satellite tracking data to enhance their targeting capabilities for attacks on Western commercial vessels in the Red Sea. Russia works with and actively backs Ukrainian separatist terrorists.  Are these also not terrorist proxies that can have access to Russian nuclear weapons too?  It's the same argument.  Is Iran more likely to transfer weapons to non-state actors tahn Russia?  Why?   Why does Trump humiliate Zelensky when he asks for help but do whatever Netanyahu says at all moments of the day?

Because Russia has nukes.

[Propagandhim]

I don't necessarily think Netanyahu is lying, but I don't understand why Trump doesn't take the same argument seriously for Russia.  Russian military forces have worked with Hezbollah in Syria to support Assad.   Russia has been arming the Taliban in Afghanistan.  Russia maintains friendly relations with Hamas.  Russia actively engages with Houthi representatives in diplomacy and have met with them in Moscow and has provided the Houthis with satellite tracking data to enhance their targeting capabilities for attacks on Western commercial vessels in the Red Sea. Russia works with and actively backs Ukrainian separatist terrorists.  Are these also not terrorist proxies that can have access to Russian nuclear weapons too?  It's the same argument.  Is Iran more likely to transfer weapons to non-state actors tahn Russia?  Why?   Why does Trump humiliate Zelensky when he asks for help but do whatever Netanyahu says at all moments of the day?

Because Russia has nukes.

So wouldn't we take the threat more seriously since it's more likely and not less likely?

[Alpacx]

I don't necessarily think Netanyahu is lying, but I don't understand why Trump doesn't take the same argument seriously for Russia.  Russian military forces have worked with Hezbollah in Syria to support Assad.   Russia has been arming the Taliban in Afghanistan.  Russia maintains friendly relations with Hamas.  Russia actively engages with Houthi representatives in diplomacy and have met with them in Moscow and has provided the Houthis with satellite tracking data to enhance their targeting capabilities for attacks on Western commercial vessels in the Red Sea. Russia works with and actively backs Ukrainian separatist terrorists.  Are these also not terrorist proxies that can have access to Russian nuclear weapons too?  It's the same argument.  Is Iran more likely to transfer weapons to non-state actors tahn Russia?  Why?   Why does Trump humiliate Zelensky when he asks for help but do whatever Netanyahu says at all moments of the day?

Because Russia has nukes.

So wouldn't we take the threat more seriously since it's more likely and not less likely?

I think the appeasement of Russia (going back to the Biden admin limiting weapon ranges and doing nothing after the Crimea) is taking the threat seriously.

But I don't think Iran, if it were to get nuclear weapons, or Russia are likely to hand over nuclear weapons to non-state actors. You kind of want to control those weapons if you have them. Who knows where they'd actually end up if they're out of your hands.

[benji]

Because Khamenei doesn't ride shirtless on horseback.

[Propagandhim]

Yeah, I don't think Israel is wrong for doing what they're doing.  We'll see.  Anyway, thanks for the discussion but i just want to reiterate....



...y'all aint serious people.

[benji]

One member asked how people would feel if it was a shithead girl instead of a boy and they all got very angry at him calling it whataboutism (it's by definition not whataboutism)

A question to everyone in here saying the kid had it coming, was taught a lesson etc.:

If a 14 year old girl had thrown the food and the old man would have punched her, would you say the same thing? If it is really about teaching a teenager a lesson the answer should be yes but the answer won't be yes, the discussion in this thread would be very different and you all know it.
So this isn't about teaching a kid a lesson, it's about having found an acceptable target for violent fantasies and celebrating a violent old man as if beating up a scrawny teenager is a heroic thing to do.

This thread is an embarrassment.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elder-teaches-a-canadian-lad-that-xbox-chat-isnt-real-life-after-dumbass-throw-food-at-mans-wife-in-a-tim-hortons.1218636/post-141505035

Somebody needs to understand this isn't a time to talk about toxic masculinity and how men need to suck it up and stop whining.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elder-teaches-a-canadian-lad-that-xbox-chat-isnt-real-life-after-dumbass-throw-food-at-mans-wife-in-a-tim-hortons.1218636/page-7

Oh, damn, she's caught me in another contradiction. There's no way I could oppose all violence and think the culture needs to be changed by challenging the use of it in all instances, guess I just have to accept that violence should always be used to get what I want and then celebrated after it's used.

I'm not even that universally consistent. (Care post incoming)

I think it should be the most easily defensible thing in the world to say on an ostensibly liberal forum, that adults should not physically hit kids. Not white boys, not black girls, not anything in between. I'm sad that Era is so totally captured by the deranged that no one is pointing out the simplicity of their arguments.

They're all arguing in circles that are extremely easily pointed out as stupid. This ass-covering "I don't support corporal punishment" pretty obviously conflicts with separate statements of "my parents beat me, and it worked" and "if someone had done this at home, grandpa wouldn't have to administer education at Tim Hortons". Then people are throwing in stuff like kids yelling in the store as if it is relevant? And it only gets stupider from there.

• "Black people hit their kids" - David Duke or ResetEra?
  
• "So you think bullied kids in school can't defend themselves?" Right, saying adults shouldn't hit kids is exactly the same as saying kids shouldn't hit kids (or should be expelled for defending themselves).
  
• "What would YOU do if someone threw a sandwich (at your WIFE!?)" as if punching the kid is the only acceptable option
  
• "This kid is 14, practically a man grown" from people who were crying about child labor laws in red states 5 minutes ago...
  
• "Parents have a special duty to not hit their kids, but adult strangers don't". See above, but also when and by whom is the kid supposed to be "educated" before they encounter the world's greatest pediatric psychologists in a random Tim Hortons?
  
• "The real violence is people who think that no one should punch this kid" <insert dril quote about good and bad things>
  
• "People who think hitting this kid is bad are the reason Trump is president/what about the genocide" genuinely too moronic of a take to even attempt to address directly. 
  

That doesn't even get into the dude at the end of the video, who slaps the kid from behind out of nowhere. Era says "because he was laughing". Like, it's a pretty explicit admission on the part of these posters that the bar of "Fucking around" can go down really fast...first it was because he assaulted a dying old woman with a ham and cheese, and thus earned his beating. But now he earned a bonus hit because he...laughed? God forbid he stick his tongue out, or say "you're not my dad!". 

This kid is obviously a dickhead. But, unfortunately for the peabrains at Era, adults are expected to have the mental and emotional self-discipline to understand that there are many ways to navigate social situations, including and perhaps especially unpleasant ones. Doing so is more difficult than HULK SMASH, but that's just the burden of being a human who is entrusted to drive a car and smoke a cigarette and vote. 

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And on Father's Day of all days!
  

[benji]

That doesn't even get into the dude at the end of the video, who slaps the kid from behind out of nowhere. Era says "because he was laughing". Like, it's a pretty explicit admission on the part of these posters that the bar of "Fucking around" can go down really fast...first it was because he assaulted a dying old woman with a ham and cheese, and thus earned his beating. But now he earned a bonus hit because he...laughed? God forbid he stick his tongue out, or say "you're not my dad!". 

He was showing he hadn't learned his lesson about fucking around, making him a repeat offender with a history of history. If he had gone to a Black school he would have known.

[benji]

We should also I also want to note that this is a forum where every excuse anyone can think of is pulled out for adults to demand others constantly change their behavior to favor whatever the adult wants no matter how burdensome or disrespectful the demand is. Then we suddenly see how it snaps back from the same exact posters into how just any bystander is allowed to "educate" apparently anyone with violence if you violate the social norms of the local majority or I guess just anyone who thinks their morality should dominate the situation. And everyone, of any culture and ability, is just supposed to know these social norms at all times or get what they fucking deserve.

Total incoherence as normal. And don't you dare bring it up, that's concern trolling and dismissing concerns.

[Jansen]

What if wolverine couldn't regenerate his penis, do you think he would be so reckless?

[DavidCroquet]

"Oh, you're smiling? So you think this is funny? I'll give you something to laugh about, funnyman!"

- Era-certified Gold Star Parenting

[Alpacx]

I think we're all missing the point:

Making a kid eat anything at Tim Hortons is child abuse.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elder-teaches-a-canadian-lad-that-xbox-chat-isnt-real-life-after-dumbass-throw-food-at-mans-wife-in-a-tim-hortons.1218636/page-8#post-141516693

Knowing there is more than one poster defending the 14 year old man who secretly wishes they could've done stuff like he did in their youth makes this thread even funnier.

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still hilarious that this guy of all people wants to put Nepenthe on ignore. You know she's got an image problem when her ideological allies are like "but she's just so fucking annoying!"

[benji]

Shows their zero-sum thinking. Criticizing the man is not defending the kid. If you can only defend the man by pointing to what the kid did then you're admitting you cannot justify what the man did.

Your argument is solely "some things deserve a hit, this happens to be one of them." Okay, great, but you're no longer explaining why some things deserve a hit nor why this is one of them. Now where do you go to oppose hitting a kid for not being a Christian or straight? "But that's wrong." Oh, so there's a list somewhere? Might it be ten items long and carved in stone tablets?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

What about the boys social economical upbringing? This is sad, where is the empathy?

[Propagandhim]

lol the kid could have been forced to stop or removed from the store in 5 seconds and now the guy probably has a legal issue to deal with because of his actions.  Durr mission accomplished.   Dimwit.

[benji]

"Ends justify the means." -

Note: does not apply to voting, the Democratic Party in general, the collective nation of Jewish people, the police, transparency on internet forums, etc.

[Garfield]

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1934256121394712998

this girl seems to know her stuff

[HaughtyFrank]

The thing is, I could imagine myself also slapping that kid if a burned a fuse, what annoys me is their moral grandstanding about it. This isn't about teaching a lesson and improving society, it's about wiping the shit eating grin of someone's face

[Propagandhim]

[Propagandhim]

[benji]

The thing is, I could imagine myself also slapping that kid if a burned a fuse, what annoys me is their moral grandstanding about it. This isn't about teaching a lesson and improving society, it's about wiping the shit eating grin of someone's face

They can't accept that the kid was stupid and the man was stupid and neither should have done what they did but ultimately neither is really that serious to tease societal norms from. They regularly make clear that once somebody does something wrong anything is fair game, unless that person (or internationally recognized terrorist organization) is supposed to be a protected class aka themselves or people they like the platonic ideal of. It's a "conflict" so there must be a winner, otherwise you're just a both siding centrist.

[Propagandhim]

If we want solutions, we have to constantly be vigilant about how we engage with the problems.

[Propagandhim]

The thing is, I could imagine myself also slapping that kid if a burned a fuse, what annoys me is their moral grandstanding about it. This isn't about teaching a lesson and improving society, it's about wiping the shit eating grin of someone's face

They can't accept that the kid was stupid and the man was stupid and neither should have done what they did but ultimately neither is really that serious to tease societal norms from. They regularly make clear that once somebody does something wrong anything is fair game, unless that person (or internationally recognized terrorist organization) is supposed to be a protected class aka themselves or people they like the platonic ideal of. It's a "conflict" so there must be a winner, otherwise you're just a both siding centrist.

Well they think black people are a different species that should be afforded their own rules and standards and are given different norms to abide by because their form of free will is 'different' from other peoples' and it doesn't matter if everyone isn't too stupid to be blind to the double standard and let it go because, well, blacks are a different species, who cares if people see them differently!

[Hap Shaughnessy]

If we want solutions, we have to constantly be vigilant about how we engage with the problems.

Her tag is about capoeira though, not actual fighting.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

If we want solutions, we have to constantly be vigilant about how we engage with the problems.

add it

[benji]

"The thing I fear about kids beating a homeless Black man near to death for fun is think about how the language used towards them will provide the rhetorical cover for a society that metaphorically beats down all Black boys." - Royalan MacDonald