Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[nachobro]

Literally went "wow" irl. Absolutely wouldn't want to be doing any exercise in that. These designs aren't just objectifying they're just plain dumb sometimes lol.

fat fingers typed this post

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

crabs in a cooking pot

instead of causing a stink to unban those who were hit with moderation they instead want the banning of more community members.

[HaughtyFrank]

I can't imagine how they'd react to a day at the beach in Miami in the summer if they think those swim suits is too much.

I get it that the outfit is a throwback to old official art but still it's a bit much. The official Street Fighter twitter even said "Suns out Chuns out". Her cheeks are just out there.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

 User Banned (3 months): Downplaying the holocaust, prior ban for downplaying the holocaust

I wonder how many times era users can downplay the holocaust before getting permabanned? 

[Potato]

crabs in a cooking pot

instead of causing a stink to unban those who were hit with moderation they instead want the banning of more community members.

They promoted all the endorphin-seeking report button abusers to positions of power and then told everyone to keep reporting posts. 

B-dumbs: "How did my forum end up this way?"

[kaleidoscopium]

 User Banned (3 months): Downplaying the holocaust, prior ban for downplaying the holocaust

I wonder how many times era users can downplay the holocaust before getting permabanned? 

Meanwhile weve seen permabans for the crime of… liking kingdom come deliverance 2 😂

No wonder they don’t want a ban log

[El Derpo]

Being terminally online seriously fucks with peoples ability to deal with disagreements in any meaningful way. I feel like online discourse suffers from being completely disconnected by real world context and that things immediately escalate to absurd extremes. 

The reality is:
1. It’s fine to not like something or find something gross, just because it’s not for you doesn’t mean it signals the end of days (see: SF6 consumes)
2. It’s fine for someone to not like something you do, that doesn’t make them a bigot that has to be ostracised from conversation or society (see: people who like SF6 costumes)

So now you have a bunch of people policing morality to a level that would make the ayatollah blush but because they identify as women they espouse it as progressive.

[Potato]

I agree with the mods, you should be able to tell other Resetera users to unalive themselves!!!

...or eat their whole arse.

[Polident]

 User Banned (3 months): Downplaying the holocaust, prior ban for downplaying the holocaust

I wonder how many times era users can downplay the holocaust before getting permabanned? 

They need a solution to finally deal with it.

[Potato]

I wonder how many times era users can downplay the holocaust before getting permabanned? 

They need a solution to finally deal with it.

The mods really need to master this race to the bottom

[Snoopy]

From some retard's culture war backpats thread -

I mean, does it make a quick buck? These losers don't put their money where their mouths are, they just complain on the internet, get catered to, tweet "THIS IS HOW YOU MAKE GAMES @JAPAN" and never actually buy the game or the DLC or whatever. They're not a sustainable audience, they're angry little boys.

Basically. And they're also massively hypocritical and end up playing "woke" games anyway.

Sounds like that high femme who spent months buttraging about Cyberpunk then bought it day 1

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-appealing-to-the-anti-woke-crowd-the-easiest-grift-of-all-time-for-a-game-studio-to-get-a-quick-buck-from-suckers.1262094/page-3#post-143542083

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

anti-woke games are terrible. Look at Assassins Creed Shadows and Dragon Age: The Veilguard! Perfect woke games that have made a lot of money and won many awards!

[benji]

I mean they turned on Stellar Blade, because they couldn't actually define what they wanted that game to be and had to move goalposts when the game "wasn't enough for them".

Yet, they also can't make a statement when credit card companies put the games that are "made for them" in the crosshairs.

There's no point in catering to the 'anti-woke' audience because they are not only deeply unreliable consumers, they also don't represent the general consumers. So catering to their bigoted interests will do more harm than good -- and there's also the chance the chuds will turn on devs trying to make games to their interests due to the shifting definitions of what's woke and what's not (the chuds don't know either because it's all BS).

Honestly, there's an argument to be made that the 'anti-woke' chuds barely play video games -- they're much more about being terminally online and stirring up shit then actually spending time to play game

I mean, when you instantly declare every game that has anything you don't like as "catering to the chuds" despite no evidence they are you're going to get false positives. Stellar Blade isn't an example of a game that did this, but they're using it as one because chuds were championing it.

Also, notice Mesoian's lie, Grummz and trash boy and all sorts of others have been right on bitching about the payment processors yet he still has to lie and claim they aren't because Bad People can't do Good Things in his worldview. Another thing that will result in false positives.

There's also no nuance to "they turned on Stellar Blade" because did they? You're saying they're ideological warriors so why would they stay loyal to something that violates these terms? You guys didn't become loyal to Cyberpunk and Hogwart's Legacy for being pro-LGBT, even expressing wanting to play the latter was verboten.

We should also focus on this:

So catering to their bigoted interests will do more harm than good -- and there's also the chance the chuds will turn on devs trying to make games to their interests due to the shifting definitions of what's woke and what's not (the chuds don't know either because it's all BS).

So nobody knows what woke is, but this guy knows anyone against it is bigoted? So he's saying he does know what woke is because he can spot the anti-woke.

This helps explain how Hogwart's Legacy (or Stellar Blade) can be "anti-woke" without doing anything, Era types lockstep opposes it, so then the chuds lockstep champion it. And then as we can see in their threads and also on Twitter (not that you should view Nazi sites) everyone starts speculating what will outrage the other side because nobody has the patience to wait and see what actually does. Content is desperately needed and that requires you to take up arms before the enemy does, and then not back down when you've taken a position too far out. Backing down, because Stellar Blade represents "high femme" ideals or because they "censored" something becomes you "turning on it" which is giving a win to the other side. And that's what matters most.

This is all aside from the fact that that thread doesn't actually supply any examples of catering to the anti-woke to determine if it works or not. Most of the examples are about the woke being upset about something first, and also we can't even know what is woke because nobody knows what that means. Yet everyone in the thread seems to know what games have catered to the anti-woke.

Yeah I'm going to assume this is for the ballroom. Still odd to be on the roof, I'm actually surprised you can get up their through normal means, is their much use for that in most normal cases?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-is-standing-on-the-roof-of-the-white-house-and-nobody-knows-why.1262538/page-6#post-143543622

Why would they shut down roof access? The Secret Service is constantly posted on it (and controls the sight lines to it) and the entire White House grounds can't be entered from the outside without approval. The President literally can't go anywhere outside the residence or the Oval without it being swept first, those places are the exception because access is completely controlled. They probably swept the balcony even when Trump wanted to go stare into the sun. Nobody's going to be on the roof without the Secret Service's approval in the first place.

"What if someone puts a bomb up there!" If you can get into the White House with a bomb and can sneak it onto the roof, it blowing up is the least of their problems because you're a fictional character.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-been-4-generations-and-it-feels-like-the-open-world-driving-model-has-barely-improved.1261011/

Feels like it is the same float, over correcting driving no matter the game or system. It's fun for a few minutes, but sucks when you trying to roleplay or godforbid have a mission that revolves around driving.

Especially if the mission hedges on taking as little damage as possible

I've been playing Cyberpunk and the car habdling, while I appreciate the variety, reeeeeeeally sucks. Will be curious about how GTA6 handles.

Tbh I'm still waiting for a game with Gran Turismo type heavy feel in an open world. Even if that'll be less obviously "fun".

LOL what inspired the thread

THE CHUDS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE

[benji]

[benji]

Fair and balanced:

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[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Are tweets not showing username and avatar for anyone else?

[benji]

Are tweets not showing username and avatar for anyone else?

Yes, must be Elon's API. It sometimes loads some of them for me but not others, including from the same person.

[nachobro]

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[TylenolJones]

Amazing site

Nearly half of kids in the U.S. live in households below the middle class (Wall Street Journal)

Not saying it's intentional but I feel like these articles always like to have a white woman with mixed race kids in the picture so racists can cry "where's the dad at?".

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nearly-half-of-kids-in-the-u-s-live-in-households-below-the-middle-class-wall-street-journal.1263057/#post-143557833

[kaleidoscopium]

Its tough, Doom is my favorite game/series of all time. Even my friends are shocked that i passed it up.

I apreciate you holding back on that game

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-bds-movement-calls-for-a-boycott-of-xbox-and-microsoft-gaming-products-over-its-parent-companys-complicity-in-the-genocide-in-gaza.1155057/page-20#post-143551803

What a weird video game forum

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nearly-half-of-kids-in-the-u-s-live-in-households-below-the-middle-class-wall-street-journal.1263057/#post-143557833

I think it would have been more meaningful if the article stated how many are below say they poverty line. I know in other countries that stat is useful to identify gaps in care across minority groups.

I've heard that this at least used to be obfuscated because a lot of families are at some point below the poverty line, but not all the time, so that actually presented poverty as less of an issue than it was.

Maxed out credit cards, on food assistance, late to paying a $865 mortgage?

That's not close to poverty. That is poverty.

In most contexts, "middle class" does not mean some fixed percentile around median.

Middle class isn't the mean. It's a statement on one's economic stability and standing overall. "Middle class America" is where one can comfortably afford housing, food and extras for a family without being overburdened.

As the grand old pedophiles intend

They won't report it that way because Americans below the poverty line is a miniscule number and almost every single one of them have reasons for being there that people will go "oh, well, that makes sense" like maxing out their debt.

And middle class absolutely is defined by the mean, it's not this "comfortably afford" nonsense.  

It's literally in what's quoted in the OP:

For a family of two adults and two kids, the dividing line is a maximum net income of about $75,000, including government benefits.

This is under the per capita income because it's defined by the mean, there's no other way to obtain this figure because expenses can't be known. (I imagine most people are confused because there's two means, per capita is one mean aka the average, but middle class would be a different mean, the mean of the distribution. None of the people involved would be dumb enough to do the former because they know income isn't evenly distributed.)

That aside, this guy is correct because poor people have more kids while rich people don't:

Isn't it sort of statistical that half of kids or the population for that matter would be below middle class?

"Nearly half of kids in the US below the middle class" is water is wet reporting.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

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[benji]

The other side of the statistical coin is that having every multi-millionaire recklessly procreating with randoms like Elon would erase this issue.

[benji]

This woman having a "shadow state" job that is also a sign of a failing state makes it even more pointed of a problem. This nonprofit philanthropy complex that has to try and catch people as they fall into the seams and cracks of a society that has abdicated the social work that is the result of its own crumbling.

Middle class is a mushy term but I think the best way of thinking of it would be the 25-75 percent of the population that hypothetically should make up most of the country and live a decent life. This has long been a myth and continues to get propped up by articles like this and general media coverage.

I love this infographic, "share has fallen" but if you actually look at it ~75-80% of the people who moved out of the middle class did so into the upper income share.

edit: This survey has the same info from that WSJ story that the thread is about, from three years ago:

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-to-announce-building-of-a-nuclear-reactor-on-the-moon.1261974/

This isn't going to happen as NASAs budget has been gutted for the last 50 years, but it absolutely would not be a waste of resources to invest in moon infrastructure.

We can go back and look at peoples reactions to the space race as a giant waste of money and how "we could be using that money to fund <x> "and the benefits that we enjoy now because of it are incalculable, probably enabling the devices most people are posting from in this thread.

I mean, telling me that I enjoy a cell phone doesn't really address or assuage my concerns with the rampant economic and colonial issues not just facing Americans at relatively unprecedented rates but the Global South as well.

"You have a game console." "Okay, but Africans are dying in droves still."

Like, would you rather I instead have said that this isn't a high priority for me versus a waste of resources?

Science funding is pretty far down the list of globally wasted resources

Say this nuclear reactor gets built tomorrow.

What is that going to do for the state of Africa, or Latin America, or Gaza?

Does this thinking not apply to any scientific research?

This question doesn't answer my question.

No, but do you think science funding is anywhere near the primary cause for those places to improving?

I don't think it's a primary cause but that wasn't inherently my argument, nor do I think science in general is a vacuous social force for good without exception. It is subject to the same relational affects by capitalism and colonialism that everything else in society is, so I'm not impressed or delighted by the prospect of a nuclear reactor on the moon when my people are starving and being genocided. Telling me "but #science" or "but you use a phone" doesn't actually address my concerns.

Like the entirety of USAID was gleefully shut down just six months ago and that cost a fraction of what a nuclear-powered moon base would cost. We could do a lot of great stuff but you're dismissing how hard it is to sell a project just because it's morally justified and not because there's any direct payoff.

There's no wand you can wave to make the average American give a shit about the Global South, NASA/science spending is just a more beneficial off-ramp for those resources than blowing it on the fighter jets and nuclear subs that we'll never use.

I'm not really concerned with the myopia, hubris, and lack of empathy and awareness of the average American because I'm making a personal ethical argument.

Ma'am, I'm just trying to use my coupons at this here Walgreens.

By page 7 or so people are complaining about all the people posting their hot takes in the thread and being ignorant and repeating misinformation instead of realizing this has nothing to do with Trump and is the general belief of every space scientist/etc.

[Tektonic]

Middle of the page Sweeney-butterface

[Polident]

There’s this high end jewelry or whatever shop I often walk by. For the longest time they used to have our (ex-?)gal Gal as the model. Now she’s been replaced by Sydney Sweeney. There’s a conspiracy going on and somehow we’re in on it. 

And the conspiracy is boob appreciation rises during economic turmoil. This is real and applies to thighs as well.

[jooseloose]

Era prudes can't understand why one of their approved trans creators would like such smut:

Didn't expected that from Suzy. I mean, she always hypes Capcom up (she's part of their partner project, they send her free stuff and hire her for official lives and events, so I can understand why. This doesn't bother me), but this is an unnecessary way to hype things up, especially with the photos she selected.

Nah, Suzi always liked this stuff she loves Stellar Blade(except the story) and other games with female "sexy" designs.
It's less about Suzi's post specifically and more about the common sentiment i see on social media, i just didn't want to flood my post with multiple examples, cause there are a ton out there.

Yeahhh... I don't mean to derail the thread, especially this one of all, with YouTuber drama crap, but I haven't been following Suzy for quite some time because of this, the convenient shunning of remakes (despite her love of the Resi remakes) right around the time Silent Hill 2 came out to stellar reviews, and her saying something to the effect of how she's 'not an SJW' (she may not have said that exactly, but that was definitely the sentiment behind it.

So, seeing this from her is no surprise, unfortunately :/

Trans streamer Suzi is now sus for liking what Era prudes don't like, thus, making her chud-adjacent. Making enemies out of seemingly allies because they aren't as prudish as you. They really give Evangelical Christians a run for their money when it comes to puritanism.

Suzi has been on their shit list a while since she also loves cyberpunk 2077 and is friends with known bigot Gene park  

Can't imagine why they're not a fan of an ex-sex worker trans woman who passes easily.

[Jansen]

Fair and balanced:

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Ugh, you're still posting Twitter links? Absolutely disgusting behavior.