Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[DavidCroquet]

One issue with Buttigieg's framing, however, is that such "questions" are themselves shaped by Republican anti-trans propaganda, and are often significantly overblown. Though research into hormone replacement therapy (HRT)'s effects on athletic performance is still developing, a study published last year and funded by the International Olympic Committee found evidence that on average, trans women have lower oxygen consumption rates than cis men or women, and may be disadvantaged in competitions that involve metrics like lower body strength and vertical leap height.

Ok fine, we’ll allow transwomen in the Women’s Competitive Oxygen Consumption leagues.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gina-carano-disney-settle-legal-dispute-over-%E2%80%98mandalorian%E2%80%99-firing-%E2%80%98we-look-forward-to-identifying-opportunities-to-work-together-in-the-future%E2%80%99.1265157/page-3#post-143644941

I can't imagine what value there is in settling, since it's not like she had any real success after Mando. I don't even understand what would be in it for Trump, assuming he had anything to do with it at all.

she will never be invited into the rooms she wants to be in, and it brings me nothing but joy

fucking crazy with the ways in which American employers can fire employees in all kinds of legal ways but somehow this has to be settled out of court

Coward ass bitches, she gonna trot this victory like forever.

Aside from being fascinated at how stupid these people are, I have a feeling that every single person in this thread has no idea that it was a sex discrimination lawsuit. Carano was alleging she was treated differently from male stars like Pedro Pascal and Mark Hamill. #BelieveWomen

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99ve-justified%E2%80%99-only-making-%E2%80%98avatar%E2%80%99-movies-for-the-last-20-years-on-the-basis-they-%E2%80%98can-do-some-good-%E2%80%99-not-just-make-money.1265238/#post-143644278
Marvel bootlicker Fj0823

Nothing unites people like good ol' racial stereotypes played exclusively by white guys

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99ve-justified%E2%80%99-only-making-%E2%80%98avatar%E2%80%99-movies-for-the-last-20-years-on-the-basis-they-%E2%80%98can-do-some-good-%E2%80%99-not-just-make-money.1265238/#post-143644278
Marvel bootlicker Fj0823

Nothing unites people like good ol' racial stereotypes played exclusively by white guys

The female lead is a black Dominican...

[Tucker's Law]

New Avengers Doomsday Trailer, Ten New Disney+ series starring people of color, She-Hulk Season 2

Fuck off, Disney. You settled with Gina Carano instead of taking it to trial. This kind of spineless Nazi shit is exactly why people aren't interested.

Spoiler: visions from the Multiverse (click to show)(click to hide)

Gina Carano wins discrimination lawsuit, Disney forced to give her Star Wars franchise

WHY DIDN'T THEY SETTLE  

Based on the statement by Disney following the settlement (glowing towards Gina, and apologetic in tone even while not technically so), I'm guessing the rabbit hole goes deep for cataclysmically-bad, nearly company-ending info and communication found in discovery at LF/Disney (were any to make it into public record through trial).

And based on Gina's glowing statement, I'm guessing she and her legal team got a payday so enormous it'd be as if Bob Iger was buying another IP alongside Marvel and the Star War. When this all kicked off it seemed the public word once Elon got into the mix was that no settlements would be happening and a trial was inevitable (though that expectation with Elon being so mercurial is probably not the best of bets).

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pete-buttigieg-doubles-down-on-transphobic-comments-regarding-trans-women-in-sports.1265247/

Why do they want to die on this hill so badly. Trans women in sport is super unpopular and the fairness concerns are legitimate

[benji]

As if you needed more proof that the New York Times is a far-right white supremacist corporation that doesn't know the theory:

They claimed that progressives were up in arms over the intentional double-entendre with the word “genes,” suggesting it was winking at eugenics or white supremacy.

In reality, most progressives weren’t worked up much at all.

Criticism of the ad campaign had come almost entirely from a smattering of accounts with relatively few followers, according to an analysis of social media data by The New York Times.

Initial reactions were largely apolitical, though some progressives criticized the ad’s sexual overtones while some on the right applauded a return to “traditional advertising” in what they viewed as a step away from more diverse representations. But on the fringes of sites including TikTok and X, some users began suggesting that the campaign had a more subtle and menacing message tied to eugenics: that blond, blue-eyed looks are somehow superior.

“She has good jeans like she has good GENES! hahahaha like in a nazi way!!” stated a July 25 post on X that drew over five million views. The next day, a video on TikTok that also made a comparison to Nazism drew 3.5 million views.

Those, however, appeared to be outliers: Nearly three-quarters of posts that were critical of Ms. Sweeney or the ad had fewer than 500 views, data show. Many pro-Trump users amplified the critical posts in reposts and reshares, driving even more attention to posts that would normally reach only a few thousand users.

Absent from the evolving conversation, however, were any elected Democrats condemning the American Eagle spots.

“Has anyone on the left actually attacked the Sweeney ad?” asked a progressive podcaster, Brian Tyler Cohen, who has 600,000 followers on X and 4.6 million subscribers on YouTube, in a post last week as articles were circulating about the uproar.

Mr. Travis, who has discussed the ads almost every day for the past week on his sports and politics podcast, “OutKick,” as well as on his nationally syndicated radio show, acknowledged in an interview that elected Democrats had not criticized the ads.

Also, just because I recognized the name:

“Republicans are going to just keep hammering this because they know that they can find 13 teenagers on TikTok to say something crazy and then turn it into a two-week-long news story,” said Ryan Broderick, the author of Garbage Day, a newsletter about internet culture.

he was hired by BuzzFeed News in 2012[10] where, prior to becoming a reporter, he was a community moderator.
...
In June 2020, Broderick was fired from BuzzFeed for direct plagiarism in authored articles spanning over the course of his entire employment as a journalist there

[kaleidoscopium]

Wow, they really should ban Disney and all their related topics. Don’t they know that Disney settled with and will work with BIGOTs and CHUDs in the future? They know there is a genocide going on right? 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gina-carano-disney-settle-legal-dispute-over-‘mandalorian’-firing-‘we-look-forward-to-identifying-opportunities-to-work-together-in-the-future’.1265157/

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99ve-justified%E2%80%99-only-making-%E2%80%98avatar%E2%80%99-movies-for-the-last-20-years-on-the-basis-they-%E2%80%98can-do-some-good-%E2%80%99-not-just-make-money.1265238/

Unreal.

Not much else to say. This man gives zero fucks about the concerns of native people. He not only doesn't see the problem, he thinks he's doing good? Fuck this racist asshole and his racist-ass movies.

I believe Cameron is white enough, and rich enough, to truly believe that.

how white of him to share that with us

If he was sincere about his desire to do good he would actually listen to native people about the issues with Avatar. But he doesn't, because he thinks he's always the most correct person in the room. A white savior, if you will.

I love how it's always so cool to hate on shit that's popular. Avatar is pure escapism. Everyone that enjoys these films (in the theater) makes that point, that it feels like it takes you out of the stress of the real world and transports you into some insanely gorgeous 3D alien fantasy world for 3 hours. So yeah, he's done some good imo.

All at the expense of native people, but fuck us I guess. Keep enjoying your racist movies, glad they give you a break from the real world that they make just that little bit harder for us.

I guess to elaborate a little more - this is part of what is so frustrating with Avatar. If Cameron would just actually listen and respond appropriately, there could be a lot of good in these films. But it's all thoroughly tainted by his pigheadedness. I know the town he comes from, the native population is big there. I know he knows what's wrong with these movies. I know he knows what he should be doing here. What I don't know is why he doesn't - he can still have his vision and it would be better for it. We would be able to appreciate those good aspects without the baggage.

Sounds about white.

I enjoy the movies from a technical standpoint, but the movies are pretty much just another variation of the white savior trope. Black, brown, and native people can't solve big problems without a white savior in some capacity. The movies do not inspire me at all on a deep level. In fact the only way I can enjoy the movie is by not thinking too hard and just keeping things very surface level like watching a movie from the 1940s.

🤣🤣 my man I just got effectively called racist for praising avatar that made a zillion dollars, "enjoy your racist movies"… nigga I'm gonna be real, I don't got much time left here. This last one was a month, I'm cooked

Oh sorry, I forgot natives are just supposed to shut up and let the Avatar fans enjoy their movie. Sorry sir!

Related threads:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/it-appears-that-ghosts-of-hiroshima-will-indeed-be-james-cameron%E2%80%99s-next-film-cameron-describes-his-approach-as-%E2%80%98unsparing%E2%80%99-and-may-shoot-it-in-3d.1263135/#post-143565258

I'm sure he'll give just as much care and consideration as he did towards indigenous cultures with the Avatar movies

Cameron is the type of juvenile edgelord to walk away from Oppenheimer, a movie better than anything he's been able to put out since the George H.W. Bush administration, thinking "man I'd really love to SHOW how horrific those bombs were…in 3D. I've spent a lot of time in Japan, I could really do it justice!"

I'm sure the mind behind Avatar will do a great job not appropriating culture

I don't know. I feel like it might be better for him to take a producer role in this project and find a Japanese filmmaker to direct it instead.

This was my exact takeaway. Maybe this isn't a story you need to adapt, my dude.

And considering how he's handled problematic topics in the past, I'd actually rather him not make the movie at all.

Ah, yes, especially considering how culturally and socially aware he's been with Avatar and telling Patty Jenkins how she should have done Wonder Woman properly to empower women.

Go get em, Jim.

All of this is completely offensive, referring to cultural appropriation as a "concept".

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-says-he-doesnt-want-to-deal-with-all-the-sociopolitical-aspects-of-the-bomb-in-his-hiroshima-movie.1265271/#post-143646669

Jesus Christ. Shut the fuck up and stay in your lane, Jim!

Nothing like some apolitical war crime survival drama.

I'm sure he will consult heavily with Japanese experts and storytellers on this matter and not just take a book written by an American to tackle this very sensitive matter.

Right?

Also don't post the Terminator 2 nuke gif please:

I would also like to get away from the Terminator 2 gifs when this is about actual fucking people getting burned up. That gif is not entertaining in this context.

[HaughtyFrank]

As if you needed more proof that the New York Times is a far-right white supremacist corporation that doesn't know the theory:

They claimed that progressives were up in arms over the intentional double-entendre with the word “genes,” suggesting it was winking at eugenics or white supremacy.

In reality, most progressives weren’t worked up much at all.

Criticism of the ad campaign had come almost entirely from a smattering of accounts with relatively few followers, according to an analysis of social media data by The New York Times.

Initial reactions were largely apolitical, though some progressives criticized the ad’s sexual overtones while some on the right applauded a return to “traditional advertising” in what they viewed as a step away from more diverse representations. But on the fringes of sites including TikTok and X, some users began suggesting that the campaign had a more subtle and menacing message tied to eugenics: that blond, blue-eyed looks are somehow superior.

“She has good jeans like she has good GENES! hahahaha like in a nazi way!!” stated a July 25 post on X that drew over five million views. The next day, a video on TikTok that also made a comparison to Nazism drew 3.5 million views.

Those, however, appeared to be outliers: Nearly three-quarters of posts that were critical of Ms. Sweeney or the ad had fewer than 500 views, data show. Many pro-Trump users amplified the critical posts in reposts and reshares, driving even more attention to posts that would normally reach only a few thousand users.

Absent from the evolving conversation, however, were any elected Democrats condemning the American Eagle spots.

“Has anyone on the left actually attacked the Sweeney ad?” asked a progressive podcaster, Brian Tyler Cohen, who has 600,000 followers on X and 4.6 million subscribers on YouTube, in a post last week as articles were circulating about the uproar.

Mr. Travis, who has discussed the ads almost every day for the past week on his sports and politics podcast, “OutKick,” as well as on his nationally syndicated radio show, acknowledged in an interview that elected Democrats had not criticized the ads.

Also, just because I recognized the name:

“Republicans are going to just keep hammering this because they know that they can find 13 teenagers on TikTok to say something crazy and then turn it into a two-week-long news story,” said Ryan Broderick, the author of Garbage Day, a newsletter about internet culture.

he was hired by BuzzFeed News in 2012[10] where, prior to becoming a reporter, he was a community moderator.
...
In June 2020, Broderick was fired from BuzzFeed for direct plagiarism in authored articles spanning over the course of his entire employment as a journalist there

"No one was actually mad" seems to be the new narrative. Unfortunately RE can't participate as they were unquestionably mad (and banned anyone who wasn't)

[Snoopy]

Apparently Hamas used karts built by Nintendo to break into that festival on Oct 7th.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pete-buttigieg-doubles-down-on-transphobic-comments-regarding-trans-women-in-sports.1265247/#post-143646444

This is the correct framing, and it's also why the conservative thought is so powerful. The way we've done Youth athletics by first making it boys only, then splitting women off into their own category, is intuitive for people to understand in a gender essentialist type of way. But it's not about fairness, which is why conservatives generally don't include professional sports in their complaints, and generally target trans women. Nor is it about safety, given the amount of data we have with injury rates.

Because if you wanted actual "fairness" in youth and amateur sports, you'd completely tear down the binary framework, and make leagues skill and experience based within age brackets. Because anybody who's been to any youth game, most are lopsided blowouts because the skill and experience delta is only more pronounced, as you said.

[benji]

"No one was actually mad" seems to be the new narrative. 

The NYT article didn't seem interested in explaining why if it's such a fringe view from nobodies so many media outlets rushed to justify it.

Presumably another of those traps where the chuds attack something just to force the Right Side of History to defend it.

[kaleidoscopium]

These are unfortunately "most Americans" talking points. Ratio is 25:75.

Gonna be real with you, I don't give a flying fuck about the poll numbers

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pete-buttigieg-doubles-down-on-transphobic-comments-regarding-trans-women-in-sports.1265247/page-2#post-143648184

[BananaBlast]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/street-fighter-6-costume-4-trailer.1261239/page-4#post-143509980
 

EDIT: Shit, I let this get so far out of proportion with where I originally wanted to go with it. It got to me as I was writing, I'm just gonna keep it anyway, might want it later, so screw it.

I'm gonna give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the particular concerns raising kids. But if you think it's a clever retort to bring up displays of cartoonish violence, I'd just prompt you to try to imagine what kind of real-world harms we're actually seeking to avoid when it comes to the target audiences of a T-rated game.

Do you honestly think we're grasping at pearls out of fright that our toddlers might try to imitate a four hundred pound Russian wrestler flying through the air doing a spinning piledriver? Or perhaps the real concern parents have always had with violence is the omnipresent fear buried in the back of your mind that they might not come from school one day because it's our turn to live through some version of Adolescence (2025)? That perhaps the cultural influences and systemic prejudices being injected into our kids through their media consumption might be increasingly putting them at risk of physical harms due to extremist conditioning?

If you're having trouble deciphering what my through-line is here, let me try to weave it out a little more. The age of children we're worried about with this shit are our adolescents and teenagers; you know, the very ages when we were all going through puberty and first romances. When issues of beauty standards, self worth, gender norms, and sexual behavior all begin to consume your day-to-day life? But now you're armed with the prescient knowledge of all the fucked up shit that entails and the best you can ever hope for is that you've provided your children with enough tools and support that they can survive on their own in an unjust and uncaring world?

If that's still too much subtext, fine, let's just skip to a concrete example and I'll talk about the inevitable question that everyone who raises a daughter hopes will never come up, but which we all know is inescapable. They come home sullen and withdrawn, straight to their room. You softly knock to check in on them, but instead of being rebuffed or accepted, they don't say anything at all. You lean the door open and see they're completely still, head buried in pillows. You take a breath, walk up and sit next to them on the bed, being silent but present, sitting in the moment with them for as long as they need.

Finally there's a sniffle, a wipe of the eye, as they sit up and draw their eyes to yours. Their quivering voice betrays palpable and lifelong devastation...."Dad, am I ugly?"

This shit fucking matters and it's not just about "yucking your yum". You want me to be fucking crass about it? What exactly do you think teenage boys are jacking off to these days, or hell, what are you using as masturbation aides? Forget an increasingly unhinged real-world detachment from the realities of what actual women look like, now we've introduced virtual sex dolls that even porn actresses would struggle to compete with if for no other reason that they age. How exactly do you think we should be normalizing attractiveness of different body shapes and sizes for teenagers that might play video games as their primary mode of entertainment?

Boys want to talk about feeling emasculated and ashamed seeing Marvel tier-physiques everywhere that is impossible to obtain, and I think that's a great conversation to have and a very real problem. But why can't we continue with simply acknowledging the inverse that girls have to deal with everyone they're supposed to emulate being 90-pound beach bikini blondes with FF busts?

You know what the difference is between a boy who feels like no one can ever love him because he's a skinny loser and a girl who believes no one can ever love her because she has the wrong skin tone, curly hair, or smaller busts? The girl will commit suicide, but the boy will murder her.

 
 
this is about swimsuit costumes in street fighter btw

Yeah, I was fucking flabbergasted when I read this.

Deranged piece of shit literally tried arguing "if we have too much exposure of Chun-Li's thick round booty, girls will start crying to their daddies that they're not good enough to live, and then incel population will murder them"

Aren't male suicides higher? Not that it matters much, what an insane argument.

Also there have been studies showing that videogame characters don't affect a woman's self image, because guess what? They can tell that they're FICTIONAL. https://www.psypost.org/playing-as-a-sexualized-video-game-character-does-not-increase-womens-body-dissatisfaction/

If you want to talk about distorted self image then look at tiktok, Instagram and popidols

Yup. Exactly why these pieces of shit are completely disingenuous on all fronts. He takes an extreme moral high horse stance (i.e, "if you like sexy bikini costumes, then you are complicit in teenage girls feeling suicidal and incels murdering women") but isn't "moral" enough that he'd talk outside of the cult's acceptable targets. He'll take the ultimate browbeating stance, but is too much of a pussy to confront the actual conversation. Because his ideological brainrot won't allow him to criticize real women, which would be the only logical contender possible, so all this insane moral posturing is just fake bullshit.

A girl crying into her pillow and tearfully bemoaning if she's ugly would be due to bad real world interactions, like other girls bullying her for her looks, not a fucking random video game swimsuit costume. Dumbass even brings up porn actresses, and porn actresses are always said to embody an "unrealistic beauty standard".

[benji]

From the article about the poll Trey is citing in that thread:

About two-thirds of U.S. adults agree with President Donald Trump that whether a person is a man or woman is determined by their biological characteristics at birth.

The poll found that Republicans overwhelmingly believe gender identity is defined by sex at birth, but Democrats are divided, with about half saying gender identity can differ from biological characteristics at birth. The view that gender identity can’t be separated from sex at birth view contradicts what the American Medical Association and other mainstream medical groups say: that extensive scientific research suggests sex and gender are better understood as a spectrum than as an either-or definition.

Unfortunately they don't have splits for the men/women responses to the questions to see if women are more against or for any of this than men.

But I noticed interestingly that in their toplines they ignore the "extensive scientific research" for a binary that inexplicably breaks 50/50 like all of their polls ever:

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

less oxygen? don't care. Stop taking opportunities away from already opportunity starved cis women.

It's why we need to keep DEI hiring. cis white women benefit the most. 

[Boredfrom]

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New Avengers Doomsday Trailer, Ten New Disney+ series starring people of color, She-Hulk Season 2

Fuck off, Disney. You settled with Gina Carano instead of taking it to trial. This kind of spineless Nazi shit is exactly why people aren't interested.

Spoiler: visions from the Multiverse (click to show)(click to hide)

Gina Carano wins discrimination lawsuit, Disney forced to give her Star Wars franchise

WHY DIDN'T THEY SETTLE  

Based on the statement by Disney following the settlement (glowing towards Gina, and apologetic in tone even while not technically so), I'm guessing the rabbit hole goes deep for cataclysmically-bad, nearly company-ending info and communication found in discovery at LF/Disney (were any to make it into public record through trial).

And based on Gina's glowing statement, I'm guessing she and her legal team got a payday so enormous it'd be as if Bob Iger was buying another IP alongside Marvel and the Star War.  When this all kicked off it seemed the public word once Elon got into the mix was that no settlements would be happening and a trial was inevitable (though that expectation with Elon being so mercurial is probably not the best of bets).

Dude, calm down.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fantastic-four%E2%80%99-box-office-dive-is-a-bad-omen-for-marvel%E2%80%99s-future.1264029/page-6#post-143608320

First Steps was the first time I'd seen and MCU film in the Cinemas since Captain Marvel (and last MCU film I'd seen since The Marvels) and really loved it, though for me, seeing Pedro Pascal pull off one of the few canonically autistic superhero characters in either Marvel or DC was a big treat for me and a big part of why I loved it (and whether it was intentional or not, Pascal really feels like did amazing good portraying an Autistic character that was both, relatable while not falling into negative stereotypes) (Side note, it's amazing now that both my favourite comic book villains, Black Manta and Poison Ivy and canonically Autistic, that is fantastic!).

I don't think it's the characters that are the problem here really (people tend to forget characters like Iron Man and Thor weren't exactly A-Tier or well known outside of comic book circles before the MCU, like Iron Man back then was considered Marvel's knock-off of Batman and Comic fans hated him still for the Civil War arc) and honestly feel like this is more of a case of a number of things, from people waiting for streaming (it baffles me hearing people say if costs $42-$50 for film tickets, here it's £4.99 and £7.99 for the VIP seats), loss of momentum, changing trends, oversaturation etc. I'll be curious to see how well it does when it gets to streaming.

uhm is pedro autistic? because if he's playing an autistic person the actor should be autistic.

[Boredfrom]

Reed Richards is autistic?

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

are you saying our wlw savior is lying?

[Boredfrom]

So it was from a Grant Morrison storyline.  

I was gonna get mad until I read the actual panel:

“Going to cure autism”.

Edit: Holy shit, it is from 2001.   That explains it.  

I dunno how canonical it is anymore.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-having-wholesale-nostalgia-for-the-90s-and-viewing-gaming-of-years-past-as-sacred-holding-us-back-collectively-bluesky-users-game-devs-discuss.1262202/

perhaps wasn't a good idea to bring all this up here after all. message received.

requested a thread lock fwiw.

(i get that some here hate when thread locks are used in this way, but maybe its for the best in this instance lol)

[Boredfrom]

Doops is such a rat. He already has control of most OT of the forum.

[HaughtyFrank]

^ I was about to say that the OP was really dumb to include the fascism post but turns out that was basically the one he was the most interested in  

Also they're doing the typical thing where they just ignore what was actually said "By being nostalgic they actually mean they hate women and political correctness" which absolutely no one said anywhere

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

if the discussion was on bluesky why not keep it there?

[Boredfrom]

As if you needed more proof that the New York Times is a far-right white supremacist corporation that doesn't know the theory:

[quote=https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/07/business/sydney-sweeney-ad-right-wing-media.html]

They always say this shit:

“We didn’t take the bait, it was the conservatives.”  

Anything just to not self reflect. It is the same shit with the TV Superman dude.

[Boredfrom]

if the discussion was on bluesky why not keep it there?

Doops wanted to promote the flame war and rile ERA up. The old anti GG social circle still want any relevance they can still get.

[Gamegirl Nostalgia]

video games are bad and promote nazis ok? ban them. 

[BananaBlast]

Self hating gooner Kordova is back to making "Whoa, can you believe how fat that ass is   " posts again

This hype post is even more unexpected. Capcom is something else.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/post-143548776

https://www.resetera.com/threads/street-fighter-6-costume-4-trailer.1261239/page-5#post-143535183

Manon's suit though. I had no idea she had all that.

What a thread.

So which costumes did everyone pick up?

Cammy since she's my main, Chun Li (her outfit and hair are immaculate), and Manon for cake reasons.

Confirmed: Kordova is a gooner.

The guy did all that "ugh, can you believe all this oversexualized gooner slop? ugh i'm so disappointed and disgusted, i can't believe her ass is so big. fucking creeps, do better pervs" whining .....only to now say "i bought the sexy skins cuz Manon's got a fat ass"