Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/would-you-be-for-or-against-steam-obscuring-the-review-summary-on-a-games-store-page-until-you-hover-over-click-on-it-as-the-default.1284855/

I'm not a dev but it would have been interesting to see what the dev/player split looks like on this

Guess who is back.  

https://www.resetera.com/threads/legacy-gamers-what-efforts-have-you-made-to-get-into-the-likely-future-of-the-industry-gaas-gaplatforms-hardware-agnosticism-vr-etc.1287312/

Roblox just passed Steam's all-time player count.
Not too significant on its own but coincident with publishers and their aggresive live service push, the long-awaited decline of console exclusivity, all-time high gacha design popularity, the greatest amount of investment into alternate hardware (vr, handhelds), UGC platforms, cloud gaming, and so on, I think a shift is more apparent than it's been in the past with motion controls or other supposed radical industry shifts

Dude also changed his user name (was PlayerCharacter before, I think…)

This dude keeps going  

It's all silly, yes, but the form of disagreement is significantly different in the two cases. I figure most here already know the core points of the 'wars' so this will be a very brief overview to center the discussion

Pc storefronts: typically centered around steam vs epic, or just alternative launchers vs steam.
The argument is essentially based around 'the dangers of centralisation' vs 'unethical platform exclusivity/consumer-averse methods of userbase growth'.

Steam has too much control/influence across pc gaming and charges unfairly for its services (taking 30% of all sales under a certain threshold) vs epic tries to force users to adopt an objectively worse service by locking otherwise platform-neutral games on its platform (epic exclusives and slow store feature updates)
Silly point: They're still both 'free' launchers you can use case-by-case

Console wars: typically disagree around the specific methods of console form factor and exclusive software.
Unique hardware ecosystems with custom accessories (optimal controller layout, motion control, VR) software delivery services (subscriptions, proprietary physical media), price, etc.
Silly point: Differences in console ecosystems shrink by the year/generation. Platform exclusivity is less viable for most games developed today

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pc-storefront-wars-more-annoying-silly-than-console-wars-or-just-more-of-the-same-in-your-opinion.1303776/

The most obvious corpo market researcher in ERA.

[Nintex]

The hell? Did i stumble into an era thread?

literally the most yall oof

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tameem-antoniades-former-head-and-director-of-ninja-theory-offers-1000-bounty-to-prove-charlie-kirk-was-racist.1303812/

[Nintex]

if I had to create a team of super weird villains tameem would be on the list

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/

https://www.them.us/story/trump-admin-fbi-trans-nihilistic-violent-extremists-terrorist?=

The group defines "TIVE" [Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism] as "the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community]," as well as the belief that opposing trans rights "itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]... or poses an imminent threat to such persons' emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide."

[Nintex]

Nihilistic Violent Extremists

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/#post-145447095

Can we not fearmonger in thread titles? There's nothing in the article that mentions anything about giving grounds to send to camps, nor does the headline support that conclusion. The news is bad enough with trying to add anything extra on top of it.

                  Dismissing concerns

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/#post-145447095

Can we not fearmonger in thread titles? There's nothing in the article that mentions anything about giving grounds to send to camps, nor does the headline support that conclusion. The news is bad enough with trying to add anything extra on top of it.

                  Dismissing concerns

Clicky has been really dropping lots of misinformation and fear mongering since Kirk got shot. Even more than usual. People called them out multiple times and they just shrug

Fortunately the mods are completely fine with this and focus on more important things like videogame boobs

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/#post-145447137

Ok I don't want to downplay the seriousness of this but I do think we should be clear. It is my understanding that right now the Heritage Foundation is recommending this policy. We do not know if the FBI is going to do it. Also the policy is not to label all trans people as terrorists. This designation would be for suspects in crimes. I'm also not sure where the camps part is coming from.

I think the potential for the FBI to do some of this, and the intentionally broad definitions would lead to abuse, but it's important to understand what's going on and not spread confusion and panic.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/#post-145447185

Sorry, you're correct and they didn't say camps, but this label would absolutely have them sic ICE, there is just no reason to not think that.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/#post-145447485

Again, that's fearmongering. There is nothing in the article to support the conclusion that this would allow ICE to start arresting or rounding up trans people. The NVE designation is for suspects in crimes and encourages the Justice department to pursue broader charges against those under the NVE designation when they commit crimes, but it does not allow for carte blanche arresting of American citizens. It's more or less the same designation that was used by the Biden administration to target extremism. It didn't make white extremism illegal, but it did mean that when extremists committed crimes, the Justice department had additional empowerment to pursue broader charges or investigations. While it is still abhorrent that it would be used to target trans people, there is a large, large disconnect from that to arresting American citizens carte blanche.

I did ask for a title change, and apologies for that. Was scared and added that in from internal fear. We already have seen a huge amount of American citizens arrested by ICE though and I just personally want to have the safe assumption of being danger.

[NekoFever]

When even other TransEra members are telling you to maybe dial it down and come back to reality a bit.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/

Since the title of the thread is editorialized to the point that it drove inaccurate discussion, this thread is locked. A new thread can be created with an accurate title.

[Besticus Maximus]

Trans isn't some ideology. It's more like correcting a birth defect. Are they going after people who had cleft palate surgery too?

[Jansen]

When even other TransEra members are telling you to maybe dial it down and come back to reality a bit.

Gotta reposition themselves as not completely insane and then maybe they will be spared the camps.

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/

https://www.them.us/story/trump-admin-fbi-trans-nihilistic-violent-extremists-terrorist?=

The group defines "TIVE" [Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism] as "the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community]," as well as the belief that opposing trans rights "itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]... or poses an imminent threat to such persons' emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide."

Welp, now we know why they're privating the threads.

Gamefemme Nostalgia was onto something when she/they suggested that Benji put the princess bubblegum and nepenthe call-to-arms on the front page of the bire.

[DavidCroquet]

I just personally want to have the safe assumption of being danger.

also good newsfeed material.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fbi-is-set-to-label-all-trans-people-and-openly-trans-supporters-as-nihilistic-violent-extremist-group-to-give-them-grounds-to-send-to-camps.1303818/

https://www.them.us/story/trump-admin-fbi-trans-nihilistic-violent-extremists-terrorist?=

The group defines "TIVE" [Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism] as "the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community]," as well as the belief that opposing trans rights "itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]... or poses an imminent threat to such persons' emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide."

Welp, now we know why they're privating the threads.

Gamefemme Nostalgia was onto something when she/they suggested that Benji put the princess bubblegum and nepenthe call-to-arms on the front page of the bire.

🔒

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-resetera-had-a-massive-in-person-house-site-party-and-we-were-all-invited-what-would-you-do.1303605/page-3#post-145437354

Why would we ban people for that?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-thread-do-you-want-to-make-but-dont-cause-it-could-be-a-bad-idea.1303692/#post-145439310

Some of the more quirky and out there "So you" things I do for my friends that I don't think people here would get or be that popular.

I've actually been deciding whether or not to post a thread about discussing my 20-25 favourite Pokémon like I did with Digimon, mostly because I'm worried it will become an arguing match.

Threads about my favourite invertebrates, especially after the thread I did about my love of Wasps resulting in me feeling like shit.

[BananaBlast]

The hell? Did i stumble into an era thread?

Garfield is just reposting comments from the Kamala thread

This is why Neoxon cares so deeply about proper sourcing 

Lol, for a sec I had thought Garfield had got bit by a radioactive purple-colored reset spider

[BananaBlast]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/if-resetera-had-a-massive-in-person-house-site-party-and-we-were-all-invited-what-would-you-do.1303605/page-3#post-145437354

Why would we ban people for that?

Sure, maybe they wouldn't ban people for not attending, but they'd probably do some nasty gossip about who didn't show up. Not to mention, lord knows if someone there commits a microaggression at said gathering.

Speaking of which, if an IRL resetera party ever did happen, and it attracted all of the more infamous/annoying/vocal users, there'd be much to point and laugh at! 

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-thread-do-you-want-to-make-but-dont-cause-it-could-be-a-bad-idea.1303692/#post-145439310

Some of the more quirky and out there "So you" things I do for my friends that I don't think people here would get or be that popular.

I've actually been deciding whether or not to post a thread about discussing my 20-25 favourite Pokémon like I did with Digimon, mostly because I'm worried it will become an arguing match.

Threads about my favourite invertebrates, especially after the thread I did about my love of Wasps resulting in me feeling like shit.

resulting in me feeling like shit.

The solution is so simple

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

more wlw threads

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-fbi-is-preparing-to-label-transgender-people-as-%E2%80%9Cviolent-extremists%E2%80%9D-in-the-wake-of-charlie-kirk%E2%80%99s-murder.1303857/

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/white-house-eyes-transgender-terrorism

“What you increasingly see,” Vance went on to tell Waters, “is you see people in the trans community and other members of the far left who are saying they are so threatened by negative rhetoric that they must take arms and attack people.”

Edit:

[HaughtyFrank]

Wow, it's almost as if the whole "die TERF scum" rhetoric delivered the perfect layup for Republicans

[Besticus Maximus]

The difficulty here is that Nepenthe has been quite insistent on the absolute importance of armed resistance and terrorist struggle and is, according to her own words, trans.

[Eric Cartman]

Well clearly sports are important for a lot of people otherwise this wouldn't be an issue.

Trans clearly want to play sports so pretty important issue for them, even if not for you.

Victim blaming is mad cool.

Not gonna actually check if Vonocunt posted in the Charlie Kirk thread unironically saying that victim blaming is, in fact, mad cool, but I kinda think they probably did.

[Eric Cartman]

Guys, this isn't an issue. There's literally no need to freak out over a total hypothetical like this. We are owned by an EU company, we have to follow EU laws on data protection. That is the end of it. Coming up with crazy hypotheticals and scaring each other for no reason doesn't help anybody. Seriously, chill out.

Is that why Europeans complain you don't follow the GDPR?

And is ResetERA still a US LLC? That means you have to follow US law, the owner doesn't matter.

They probably should be glad they're still US hosted for a US LLC, because the stuff they post isn't illegal in the US but probably would be in a number of EU states enough to get them on internet blacklists if someone cared enough to do it.

The forum that confirmed a posters email identity on twitter to confirm the accuracy of their doxxing?
The forum that has had people who were fucking staff members given full staff access to user details and moderator only spaces?
The forum that requires personally identifiable email addresses, and has reportedly contacted businesses using those details with a 'this si what your employee is saying' emails?
The forum that ignores 'right to be forgotten' legislation if you request account deletion and just remove your username but leave all your posts - and all the people quoting those posts revealing that username - intact?
The forum that - because a poster who wanted to be unaffiliated with them knew that, so manually deleted many of their posts, just for the staff to manually restore them?

That forum might not have an ethical approach to user data?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-fbi-is-preparing-to-label-transgender-people-as-%E2%80%9Cviolent-extremists%E2%80%9D-in-the-wake-of-charlie-kirk%E2%80%99s-murder.1303857/

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/white-house-eyes-transgender-terrorism

“What you increasingly see,” Vance went on to tell Waters, “is you see people in the trans community and other members of the far left who are saying they are so threatened by negative rhetoric that they must take arms and attack people.”

[Eric Cartman]

I'll preface this by saying I have no idea what EU data laws are but I can't imagine you can simply skirt them by making posts so only members can see them.

You can try and hide from a House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Congressional investigation into social media and online forums role in radicalising youths that started last week though

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tameem-antoniades-former-head-and-director-of-ninja-theory-offers-1000-bounty-to-prove-charlie-kirk-was-racist.1303812/

They made this thread members only. They are fucking terrified

[DavidCroquet]

I was talking to my wife about this Jimmy Kimmel thing and accidentally reminded myself that late night talk show hosts are just the most massive drama queens imaginable. Remember when Conan got booted from being Leno's successor? People online were acting like Leno committed a genocide against Conan O'Brian. This kinda shit goes back to Johnny Carson, right? 

With the way people are acting online, you'd be forgiven for thinking that a 22-year-old ideologically motivated sniper assassinated Jimmy Kimmel at 200 yards during a public appearance...now it makes more sense sense.

Anyway I think the more apt comparison for Kimmel is actually Bill Maher, who also once faced network consequences for saying indelicate things. And look at us, 20 years later. America still alive and kicking, free speech still speechin', Bill Maher bigger than ever. Things are actually lookin' up for ol' Jimmy K!