Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Lonewulfeus]

This got to me look at his posts in that thread, of which there are 42 total (these are not all of them):

I like that "Project 2025", a giant document published every four years since 1980, is apparently an example of the internet making the world worse. Along with Nazis. 

folx, do not buy this bundle: https://www.digiphile.co/collections/return-of-the-immersive-sim
It contains this game:

Which is made by a genocidal transphobe fascist egg:

Holy shit dude, find a healthy hobby before it's too late.

Look at this motherfucker participating in the age old bore tradition of quoting long ass Benji posts!!



You'll be having circular arguments with boredfrom in no time.

Quote ziggurats

[LoverOfCycles]

Wasn’t the original manga horny as hell?  

The original and 1.5 weren't too bad in that regard, but 2 was when the artist decided his two favourite things were just technobabble and being a massive pervert.

Is like the situation with that Pokemon clone they started to hate because it was made by IRL lesbian TERFs that disliked the Trans stuff at Discord.

lol. Which one was that? Cassette Beasts?

Was this one.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/984560/HEARTBEAT/

Pretty sure the same controversy of “they are actually “TERFs” at discord”.

To be fair, that dev did put their game on sale for 41% off when the trans started harassing them.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

folx, do not buy this bundle: https://www.digiphile.co/collections/return-of-the-immersive-sim
It contains this game:

Which is made by a genocidal transphobe fascist egg:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/eurogamer-gives-arc-raiders-2-5-dinged-for-use-of-ai-generated-voices.1349200/page-26#post-147525793

This got to me look at his posts in that thread, of which there are 42 total (these are not all of them):

Good. Metascores are a cancer on the industry.
The fact a couple scabs were okay with signing AI contracts doesn't mean that all actors are okay with it.

The funniest thing is that I bet if I went "I hope all coders lose their jobs because really we don't need them if AI is good enough", I bet a lot of the same people acting like actors and artists don't matter would try to rip my head off.

Every bit helps. And if we don't ostracize it NOW when it's still nascent it'll be too late to do anything about it.

Not for art. We're not at the point where every developer is trying to destroy art with genAI, and that's where we can try to stop things before they get worse.

It's a great buying guide for me, because I will actively root for the failure of any developer that views actors and artists as disposable fodder for AI. I will NEVER buy a game from a studio that pulls this shit. Even if Square Enix announced FF17 tomorrow with a full slate of AI voice actors I'd be on the front lines hoping it fails so hard that the CEO loses his fucking job.

Who gives a shit about random NPCs? Why is it more important for no-name nobody NPCs to have more (literal filler) shit to say than for artists to have the ability to feed their families and pay rent?

I'm just going to be honest, I find it genuinely horrifying that we're supposed to accept the death of acting and art just so some independent modders can shove their fanfiction into games with "real" voices.

Not every idea is worth pursuing. And not every vision is valuable. Technology is not an inherent good, and it can absolutely be used for ill.

Because artists have nowhere else to go when their jobs get erased by AI. Low-level coders are just low-level coders. They could get better at coding and get a job elsewhere. But once we have completely automated the fundamentals of human expression out of existence, art is dead. There's nothing left for those people, and they starve and die. Also, by obliterating entry-level creative jobs we make it impossible for NEW talent to get the work they need to get a foothold. We have no economic or social protections ANYWHERE to protect artists and their families from starving to death once the job market evaporates for them.
You basically want to make a world where the only people who are allowed to live are rich people and the code jockey idiots who massage the prompts to keep their AI engines running.

Yes, but my point is, the end goal of these tech bro idiots is to erase the need for actors and artists completely. You're not looking forward at the future, you're looking at your now because that's what you're dealing with in your job right this second.
But what's happening right now is just the early-days transition. They want the tech to get better so more and more people become "unnecessary" so they can pay less people. That's what this has always been about. And once they get what they want, that's it. The only people who will still get work are the Troy Bakers and Laura Baileys and the occasional celebrity likeness cameo because they're popular big names, and once they retire, NO one will get work. It'll be completely over. There will be no path for anyone else to break in, because the door will have completely been slammed and welded shut by companies obsessively using AI for everything else.

Bingo. People keep acting like "oh it's just offloading entry-level work you guys that's not so bad, right?" but entry-level work is how people get established in industries, whether it's young actors fresh out of college or young programmers who haven't had their first job yet.
And AI proponents want to torpedo the ONLY route into industry for young people. Which effectively means the only people who will get work are the people who already have high-level jobs OR nepo babies who can skip the entry level entirely due to connections and not due to skill. In other words: the rich.

Exactly. You give tech bros and inch and they'll take an entire continent. They don't care about anything other than their own financial return.

Fuck that. Art isn't menial labor. It isn't assembly line work. It's art, it's expression, and it's what gives us culture as a species. Without art, we're just pointless meat.
I will continue to hope for the catastrophic failure of any developer that pushes for the replacement of artists in favor of algorithms.

Why do they need to say lots of shit? What does a game gain from an NPC randomly saying something racist or rattling off a grocery list? I tune those NPCs out immediately because they're not supposed to be important.

It already does, I'm afraid. We're seeing all kinds of people even in this thread saying they're being FORCED to use AI for their jobs even in ways that don't make their work better or more efficient simply because their bosses want to be seen "using AI". And people who bristle against that are punished and sometimes even fired.
AI isn't that smart. It can't read lore and make useful judgments or creative ideas out of it. It'll just make shit up that sounds "kinda right". Eventually it'll hallucinate and say something completely out of character because it can't not do that. It's not actually saying anything real, it's just doing bad improv.

I don't care about NPCs that don't contribute to the story. If they're background noise, let them be background noise. Giving them a bunch of random shit to say is wasting my time. I don't want to converse with some rando about their grocery list.

Remember when an AI replication of a real person's voice in an extremely famous video game for children started publicly saying horribly racist things because people figured out how to trick the algorithm 5 seconds after it launched?
Boy AI is so great, huh?

And by "better and better" you mean "better and better at stealing".

It's theft. Just because it's EFFECTIVE at stealing doesn't mean it's good.

Let me give you another example: if there was, let's say, a tool that is extremely good at breaking open bank vaults, thus stealing money from regular people, that doesn't make it a good tool. It makes it an effective tool for theft, but it's not good.
The PURPOSE of a tool is what dictates its ethical value, not its effectiveness.

No, it's a tool designed specifically to automate people out of their jobs by stealing existing data and using it to make things up. That's what the people creating it designed it to do. They're MARKETING it to you differently, but the goal of AI is to erase jobs. That's what tech bros want.

There literally aren't even enough jobs to feed everyone RIGHT NOW and you're asking for even more jobs to be eliminated by letting a theft robot do them instead of people. We're facing a total economic collapse right now and AI is not going to reverse that.

We are literally seeing businesses pivot toward luxury instead of mass-market product. People are being left behind because businesses would rather tailor their product toward people who have money than make something affordable for everyone.

And that's how we get shrinkflation. People being asked to pay more for less food. Which prices people out of entire product lines.

And that's how companies get us. It's also what companies plan to do with AI. Slowly accelerate it over a long stretch of time, carving off more and more "understandable" roles until it's so deeply engrained into their corporate culture that they can't operate without it at all.
This is how capitalism functions. It's a frog-boiling-in-pot world.

The internet isn't a good thing. It should be obvious based on the hellscape we live in right now that the ever-encroaching onslaught of tech only makes the world worse, not better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
I can get more examples.

Even if I don't use the internet, Gamergate still would've happened. Even if I became a complete luddite, JK Rowling would still be using her considerable power to weaponize transphobia across international social media. None of that has anything to do with me. But it DOES have to do with the internet perhaps allowing people TOO MUCH connection and allowing misinformation to spread completely unrestrained across the entire planet, because tech companies care more about their fucking balance sheets than about building a safe world.

We literally have Nazis again. Because of the internet.

Have you paid even, like...five minutes of attention to what's going on in the world right now? There are concentration camps in the continental US right now. The US government is planning to bomb its neighbors over a made-up drug threat. People are being dragged screaming out of their homes and disappeared simply for looking "wrong" to racist members of an unchecked, unregulated police force being flagrantly wielded by a racist with the brain of a toddler. And that's just the shit that's happening right here in America!
I'm so tired. The tech industry is going to kill us all because so many people don't seem to care enough to pay attention to the ways that big tech is ENABLING humanity's worst impulses and then spreading them like viruses. These companies don't care about us. They only care about making their executives and investors as much as money as possible, no matter how many people have to suffer or die to accomplish that.

I'm blaming tech. The tech industry - which AI is a part of, and the next vanguard in tech's onslaught on the world - is the enemy of humanity. AI is part of that. Social media is part of it. They all work in concert to erode human society, human empathy and basic decency while enriching a very small number of rich people.

Of all the things to wake up to this morning, I definitely was not expecting to read "big tech isn't bad, technological progress is an inherent good even when it leads to job erasure and worldwide fascist takeovers". What a fucking trip.

I like that "Project 2025", a giant document published every four years since 1980, is apparently an example of the internet making the world worse. Along with Nazis. 

folx, do not buy this bundle: https://www.digiphile.co/collections/return-of-the-immersive-sim
It contains this game:

Which is made by a genocidal transphobe fascist egg:

Things are getting tough:

Holy shit dude, find a healthy hobby before it's too late.

[Snoopy]

Mr. Valens is lucky he's not in the UK because if someone reported his rape porn he'd be facing a prison sentence.

[filler]

[Alpacx]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/should-germany-send-back-nefertiti%E2%80%99s-bust.1351678/

 

Because Germany returning the Benin Bronzes worked so well.

[wsippel]

The original and 1.5 weren't too bad in that regard, but 2 was when the artist decided his two favourite things were just technobabble and being a massive pervert.

There was an explicit lesbian orgy scene in the original that was removed in western versions. I think there were other minor edits, too. Shirow is still active, drawing outright hentai these days. Guess he made enough money and is spending his remaining years doing what he loves instead of finally finishing Appleseed. Having read Man Machine Interface, I consider that a good thing though.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/

I've been feeling lonely the past few days and I think I'm coming to terms that I'll never date for many reasons.

The big one is being trans, specifically being trans in a VERY conservative area (it's really depressing just how much support Reform UK has here and how open some people are with it), where I'm unable to transition (and unable to afford to), I have massive body issues (I feel ugly) about myself; and I just don't feel safe being openly trans, both locally or anywhere in the UK right now. Like even in progressive circles, it feels so easy to find a TERF or someone willing to play softball about the Labour party, downplaying their transphobia as being not too bad or "It would have been worse under the Tories!"

I have massive social anxiety and can't flirt for shit. While I've tried to improve myself, I just don't feel comfortable talking to people in public, like I get freaked out when people ask me for directions, no way would I be good company on a date. Plus that along with my depression makes me feel like I'd be considered to pathetic to date; not going to lie, despite the kind words of a few users here, dating threads on ERA make me depressed and miserable because it makes it clear that if you're a shy introvert or have issues like depression, you're deemed "low standards"

I'm in my early 30s at this point and just don't think I have it in me to date, I already feel stressed with work, family, social anxiety, the Government and seeing society slowly more and more turn against me and others for the crime of existing and being trans, I just don't think I can date.

[Taco Bell Tower]

If they would stop with the creepy wlw posts they might have a chance.

[Snoopy]

It's kind of ironic he lives in a hate filled conservative area while I live in a peaceful, liberal area with the TERF Bitch.

[filler]

The original and 1.5 weren't too bad in that regard, but 2 was when the artist decided his two favourite things were just technobabble and being a massive pervert.

There was an explicit lesbian orgy scene in the original that was removed in western versions. I think there were other minor edits, too. Shirow is still active, drawing outright hentai these days. Guess he made enough money and is spending his remaining years doing what he loves instead of finally finishing Appleseed. Having read Man Machine Interface, I consider that a good thing though.

proof 

[benji]

Ana going all "First they came for the Jews" because "One Way or Another, I'm Sucking Your Girldick" was deleted

Do you think they realize that when they ask all these companies to review their stuff that they're making more people laughing at and/or disgusted by them?

Maybe if PlaSma used some AI in his life he could create something worthwhile with all his time

So you want him to be right about tech trying to kill all of us?

So pussysmasher can go on and on about how this is literally the end of the world, how AI wants him specifically dead and just generally completely doom spiral and then the guy who says that horrible things happened before the Internet too gets banned

Only a troll account would try to reason with someone that technology as a concept isn't to blame for all of the world's ills and the latest trend isn't deliberately out to murder people for its only purpose.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Member only:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-think-ive-come-to-terms-that-ill-never-date.1352011/

I've been feeling lonely the past few days and I think I'm coming to terms that I'll never date for many reasons.

The big one is being trans, specifically being trans in a VERY conservative area (it's really depressing just how much support Reform UK has here and how open some people are with it), where I'm unable to transition (and unable to afford to), I have massive body issues (I feel ugly) about myself; and I just don't feel safe being openly trans, both locally or anywhere in the UK right now. Like even in progressive circles, it feels so easy to find a TERF or someone willing to play softball about the Labour party, downplaying their transphobia as being not too bad or "It would have been worse under the Tories!"

I have massive social anxiety and can't flirt for shit. While I've tried to improve myself, I just don't feel comfortable talking to people in public, like I get freaked out when people ask me for directions, no way would I be good company on a date. Plus that along with my depression makes me feel like I'd be considered to pathetic to date; not going to lie, despite the kind words of a few users here, dating threads on ERA make me depressed and miserable because it makes it clear that if you're a shy introvert or have issues like depression, you're deemed "low standards"

I'm in my early 30s at this point and just don't think I have it in me to date, I already feel stressed with work, family, social anxiety, the Government and seeing society slowly more and more turn against me and others for the crime of existing and being trans, I just don't think I can date.

He'd maaaaaybe have a chance with an equally quirky woman who was into nerdy guys, but his insistence on being a trans woman completely destroys any hope of (not to mention the crippling social anxiety and depression).

No lesbian would want anything to do with him, and the uwu pixie dream girl he actually wants doesn't exist.

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

The original and 1.5 weren't too bad in that regard, but 2 was when the artist decided his two favourite things were just technobabble and being a massive pervert.

There was an explicit lesbian orgy scene in the original that was removed in western versions. I think there were other minor edits, too. Shirow is still active, drawing outright hentai these days. Guess he made enough money and is spending his remaining years doing what he loves instead of finally finishing Appleseed. Having read Man Machine Interface, I consider that a good thing though.

proof 

Here you go:

Ghost in the Shell Comparison: US Version & Japanese Version

[BIONIC]

Jeff engaging in body shaming. Get it while it’s hot.

[D3RANG3D]

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3521250/Skibidi_Jeffrey_I_want_to_cum_inside_Femboy_Hitler/

I think I found ree's game...

[BIONIC]

[Ribosome]

Will Ree finally ban Echoes when he starts posting about his "euphoria boners?"

[filler]

There was an explicit lesbian orgy scene in the original that was removed in western versions. I think there were other minor edits, too. Shirow is still active, drawing outright hentai these days. Guess he made enough money and is spending his remaining years doing what he loves instead of finally finishing Appleseed. Having read Man Machine Interface, I consider that a good thing though.

proof 

Here you go:

Ghost in the Shell Comparison: US Version & Japanese Version

[Boredfrom]

Jeff engaging in body shaming. Get it while it’s hot.

Isn’t Preacher problematic?

[Uncle]

Jeff engaging in body shaming. Get it while it’s hot.

 that comic has always been the most "too late, I have already depicted myself as the chad and you the virgin" thing ever

you're the artist! he's missing his chin because you drew him that way! that's not an actual trope or expectation of any kind!

there are actual...similarities to be found in the wild, they just happen to occur in other segments of the population

[D3RANG3D]

[benji]

Holy shit dude, find a healthy hobby before it's too late.

Actually, while crude as a method I'm glad you quoted all that in one go because of how it juxtaposes the contradictions driving progressives like Era/Bluesky:
1. PlanetSmasher and Era demanding that tech companies and Donald Trump clamp down massively on what's allowed online before human culture cease to exist shortly before we're all killed.
2. Ana dealing with tech companies clamping down on their fetishes, lecturing leftists that this is their fault for not defending all fetishes at all times in all places, and the rest of the Bluesky commentariat insinuating this is payback for reporting on credit card companies censorship, all of which is done at the behest of Trump's fascist movement to prep the ground for killing all of us.
3. The open and very safe for children (source: Australia) platform of Discord plus other social media allowing people to find out that a game is not actually queer affirming but right-wing chud propaganda and so able to withhold their dollars and more importantly their emotional labor from the product.

That aside, I'm glad you keep finding ways to contribute to our mutual masturbation.

[Taco Bell Tower]

TMI 

[Polident]

Sometimes I click this thread and it’s pages of what could be the same topic last week or last month. We need new plot lines. Twitter recommended a topic about ozempic users noticing dong lengthening side effects. Even jelqing tips will be outmoded soon.

[filler]

someone find people on neogaf to make fun of again

[BIONIC]

Doing my part to provide fresh content for this thread, there’s this one reset era user in their dating thread that has been posting the most cringe shit for the past year. One such example:

surely you're acting distant, aloof and indifferent right?

Yes I am running "game" on this chick like a pro patrick bateman shit

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

Oh you picked out my favorite and are playing it on repeat. This is now our song(?)

Where are we at 6 hours later

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- I'm a pisces, she is a pisces, oh wow what a perfect match (of course I had to look that up and screenshot)
- "What are you thinking?" (Gurl astrology, myths I believe)
- I'm visiting my mom for her birthday (why do I even share this)
- "what present did you give her?"
- "ooohh I love pretty flowers" (now I have her birthday on my calendar)
- "What do you tell your parents when you stare and smile at your phone " (abort abort change subject haha old people talking high prices my bro might visit)
- "Christmas is all about love" (yes I love Christmas)
- "I'm in bed want to cuddle " (yes dear)

How many other likes today? 0

Why did I ask this to ChatGPT it was a neutral question even

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She could be fully registered within 1–2 weeks.

Bonus tip
If you two live together, and she wants to register at your address, that’s possible too — but you’ll both need to sign a “permission to register” form for your gemeente.

The rugby player got 4 loose buttons. When she kept in touch I figured I'd send a pic of me in bed to clearly signal this wasn't friendly. It came out better as expected. I thought she'd return the favor but made myself an easy mark instead.

So when I send: "Ok I'm back home" she sends: (good boy)

At 9 AM I started the plan to end tonight on "bad girl hehe" only to end up "yes you are a very good girl" "yes I am hehe" and I'm too curious to see how far this goes (will she visit y/n?) to call this off.

Found exactly what I was looking for. The curious nerdy girl that wants to live 5 minutes from the beach, matches on interests and tastes and has big milkers. The one smart enough to realize how I can solve almost any problem. But she dominates and enjoys using the reverse card over and over again. Rewarding her pet for good behavior.

I curated a playlist of 75 songs, removed the old stuff she disliked. So she sends a Spotify chat request, good boy

Yes I am a good boy

[D3RANG3D]

Nintex?

[Boredfrom]

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Jeff engaging in body shaming. Get it while it’s hot.

that comic has always been the most "too late, I have already depicted myself as the chad and you the virgin" thing ever

you're the artist! he's missing his chin because you drew him that way! that's not an actual trope or expectation of any kind!

  

My dude…

I mean, the joke in the comic is that non chin person was  an inbred white supremacist, it’s part of an antagonistic faction on the comic.

Context, dude, context.

[filler]

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=48296.0


the mod tried to ban some members permanently for his own personal reasons and ended up looking like a douche 


guy had such a hate boner for us and it was all one sided 

[Boredfrom]

We could talk about how hyper progressive people like Zeo uses a comic series that says no-no-no slurs, is unapologetic ableist and has a lot of problematic elements, but is okay because was the 90’s.