Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Jansen]

Can someone please explain why there's so much disparities among public education in different US states?



Personally, for me, none of the history/social studies classes educated the classes I was in about the actual history behind Thanksgiving, I was taught the whitewashed version. I didn't find out the actual history behind Thanksgiving until well after graduating high school.

He did this exact same shit last year

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-is-a-problematic-holiday-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1047771/

[benji]

Can someone please explain why there's so much disparities among public education in different US states?

Because different things produce different results.

Even within the same states, and often the same cities, the schools don't have either the same populations or the same anything beyond the intended curriculum and the funding per student.

Watch as all the responses to this you'll get on Era insist that actually everything is uniform and the disparities are "all part of the plan" even as schools with worse results get more resources for decades on end which itself debunks the idea that anything is uniform about it. Along with comments about how everything is worse because of lower funding despite the fact that more is spent on education now than ever in human history and the "better results" came from a time of less resources, less equality in resources and massive racial/ethnic/religious segregation.

[benji]

I don't think the black and Native American history experts of ree know that the five tribes had black slaves.

They will excuse anything a "lesser race" in their minds does. Whites are the only people that have or have ever had any agency at all.

Like they said:

I think this shows how people like this view white supremacist as a self-evident truth.

They're naturally superior white people

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-26-2025-georgia-prosecutor-kills-the-historic-election-interference-case-against-trump-and-allies.1365448/#post-148158490

[jooseloose]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concert-etiquette-question.1362265/page-3#post-148057672

 User Banned (1 week): Hostility towards another user

LIterally EVERY faux pas in choice of outfit is an arbitrary choice. So? If I, and others in this thread, think it looks weird it doesn't impact you unless you let it.

And that's ok, you can be type like a moron. You can be as stupid as you like. But more smarter folks will have disdain for your lack of smarts. If you can live with it than who cares.

You couldn't have been more passive aggressive elitist and insulting if you fucking tried

[Jansen]

[Jansen]

Agreed. Turkey is shit. Who fucking eats that crap?

Skill issue.

Someone's mother can't cook 😞

[Propagandhim]

I don't think the black and Native American history experts of ree know that the five tribes had black slaves.

I did not know this.

Like at our dinner when we bless the food, we even take time to bless the natives who endured all this nonsense and got us to this point

DigitalOP is 
Absolutely
Positively
Buck Broken

[benji]

A lot of these posts are great proof they don't know anything about history.

You can't teach it or do a "deep dive" on it because it wasn't an event. It was a three century long processes of events with the vast majority of the population being killed by disease in the early part. You can cover the TRAIL OF TEARS because it was an event. That was the only time anyone of authority actually sat around and said "hey, we should do this to the Indians."

They don't even realize that England make it literally illegal for the colonists to move West and this continued into the early United States with that line lasting for half of this entire period. How was there supposed to be an organized genocide carried out under this system? They don't care. They know it happened even though it didn't. That must be the fault of the SYSTEM too. It's trying to cover it up. (Even though we can pull up any state's standards and find it listed and probably extensively covered. Sorry this is the way you found out that state standards don't really mean much about what teachers actually get to. Especially when the students are trying to remember what they ignored decades ago.)

[Superstar]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/several-people-shot-in-washington-dc-including-at-least-one-national-guardsman.1365814/#post-148168465

Watch it be some ICE dipshit mishandling their gun.

Definitely the most likely scenario.

[benji]

I don't think the black and Native American history experts of ree know that the five tribes had black slaves.

I did not know this.

Like at our dinner when we bless the food, we even take time to bless the natives who endured all this nonsense and got us to this point

DigitalOP is 
Absolutely
Positively
Buck Broken

Wait until he finds out how the Indigenous treated the other Indigenous and how it compares to how the whites treated them. (And still do, look up how the casino money gets distributed by the tribes.  )

[Averon]

These same people that think it's fine to berate family members during a time that suppose be for togetherness and eating good food about how they are all shit for celebrating a colonialist, racist tradition are often the same ones whining how lonely they are and why no one calls them on their birthdays 

Like, unless you're 100% sure others at the table share your politics and eagerness to spew bullshit, being the bitchy nagging family member that constantly brings the mood down is a sure-fire way to get disinvited to family gatherings/outright ignored. Completely unsurprising Nepenthe is advocating for being that annoying family member.

[Propagandhim]

If there's an option for a white person to degrade themselves, their life, and family relationships, Nepenthe will vouch for that person to take it because she doesn't care one bit about the wellbeing of that person, and sees everything in terms of sociopathic zerosum racial power politics where one group's gain requires another's loss.   No normal person thinks like this, but she's waiting for the Quickening to happen so it all falls apart and she can finally live.

[benji]

They don't even really believe it or defend it. They always retreat to the bailey of "talking politics" where they then explain that literally everything is political. Look at that blackzilla91 post, we've retreated from "you need to condemn everyone in your family for celebrating an event that can be framed as related to another series of events" to "the books I read" (oof, alt-right alert) being a dramatic political decision to discuss.

Go back to DigitalOp's version, he doesn't condemn his family for celebrating it, instead they enjoy it with a self-serving prayer (oof, shades of forced Christianization of non-believers like the Indigenous) as a "pass" to the fact that they're perpetuating the status quo rather than not holding the dinner or gathering at all.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-26-2025-georgia-prosecutor-kills-the-historic-election-interference-case-against-trump-and-allies.1365448/#post-148164517

Next post he tells them to 🎲

[filler]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/concert-etiquette-question.1362265/page-3#post-148057672

 User Banned (1 week): Hostility towards another user

LIterally EVERY faux pas in choice of outfit is an arbitrary choice. So? If I, and others in this thread, think it looks weird it doesn't impact you unless you let it.

And that's ok, you can be type like a moron. You can be as stupid as you like. But more smarter folks will have disdain for your lack of smarts. If you can live with it than who cares.

You couldn't have been more passive aggressive elitist and insulting if you fucking tried

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1365442/page-3#post-148164529

Yet you are in a Thanksgiving thread that provided history to those who don't know

Who doesn't know this?

I learned this in Catholic school for christ's sake. We've been teaching the genocide of the natives for decades. There are innumerable pop culture references to it as well which leads me to believe MOST people understand this.

No one goes to their grandma's house on thanksgiving and gives thanks to the good piligrims for their slaughter of natives. Black or White we're focused on family during the holiday.

But let's just move it to Friday and we'll make the old Thanksgiving a day of native remembrance? Does that satisfy?

I knew this and we don’t celebrate thanksgiving here. Just pop culture osmosis from TV.

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1365442/page-5#post-148170031

I think one thing that must be understood is that we're not starting this conversation, or whatever conversation is to actually be had, in a vacuum. We live in a white supremacist society and thus people have been trained to be servile to it at a minimum. The reflexive defensiveness of people towards a neutral reminder of the holiday's genocidal origins is symptomatic of this servility because the reminder itself serves as a critique because it is pointing out the status quo, the current reality, as a bad thing, and "good" people don't like being reminded of their potential complicity in bad systems. They want to divorce themselves from it, to pretend like Indigenous genocide is just water under a bridge and something that happened forever ago, and not a reality they're just not thinking about because society has taught them to not think about it, to not question it, and certainly not to fight it. Don't ever dare fight it.

Imagine someone getting angry over the fact that you said that water is made from hydrogen and oxygen; you would question then what thus basic fact, or the statement of this basic fact, poses a threat towards.

Ultimately, there is no "good" way to discuss this because there is no "good" way to critique extant social structures that people are emotionally attached to maintaining, because the maintenance of these systems ensures what little peace they've carved out for themselves can potentially be preserved.

[Superstar]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/several-people-shot-in-washington-dc-including-at-least-one-national-guardsman.1365814/#post-148168465

Watch it be some ICE dipshit mishandling their gun.

Definitely the most likely scenario.

I used to work near there, that area is literally down town, a bunch of stores, businesses, office buildings.

STAY SAFE!

national guardsmen found to be playing a fatal game of horsey

A great time to joke at the dead's expense.

Unless it's actually something and not just two national guardsmen getting caught up in an unrelated shooting or another white right winger going off their rocker, this isn't going to make hay for long.

People are kind of over this kind of thing unless it's actually a new thing.

By this you mean you will use the media noise to contrive fantasies on how the shooter is/was a right-wing nut job (but how it was still a good thing). Then when actual info comes out about the shooter you will plug your ears and close your eyes, with this very thread never to be bumped again.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1365442/page-5#post-148170031

I think one thing that must be understood is that we're not starting this conversation, or whatever conversation is to actually be had, in a vacuum. We live in a white supremacist society and thus people have been trained to be servile to it at a minimum. The reflexive defensiveness of people towards a neutral reminder of the holiday's genocidal origins is symptomatic of this servility because the reminder itself serves as a critique because it is pointing out the status quo, the current reality, as a bad thing, and "good" people don't like being reminded of their potential complicity in bad systems. They want to divorce themselves from it, to pretend like Indigenous genocide is just water under a bridge and something that happened forever ago, and not a reality they're just not thinking about because society has taught them to not think about it, to not question it, and certainly not to fight it. Don't ever dare fight it.

Imagine someone getting angry over the fact that you said that water is made from hydrogen and oxygen; you would question then what thus basic fact, or the statement of this basic fact, poses a threat towards.

Ultimately, there is no "good" way to discuss this because there is no "good" way to critique extant social structures that people are emotionally attached to maintaining, because the maintenance of these systems ensures what little peace they've carved out for themselves can potentially be preserved.

How does this not apply to anything anyone does ever? I know she's exempt by the magic of the theory but she literally does nothing rather than spending all her time on this. There should be no other conversations allowed on Era except this. At what point do we hold everyone on Era accountable for their complicity at all times rather than talking about Switch crap or Overwatch shit or trying to avoid blaming Sony for mistakes? It's obviously not right now, the staff certainly doesn't require it. Nepenthe doesn't expend any energy on it. They can't even ban Microsoft or even discuss banning Microsoft.

She continues to live in luxury on land stolen from the Indigenous through wealth built by Black oppression and stolen from the Global South through the imperialist military that so benefits her that she uses the military family benefit system to get her stupid car loans. She's so "emotionally attached to maintaining" this that she even votes in every general election rather than arming up and forming a resistance cell to sabotage Cop City and other capitalist forces in the Atlanta area like gas stations.

[Keetongu]

1764126202[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-men-tried-to-invade-haiti-and-enslave-the-people-using-firefighter-training-sailing-knowledge-and-an-army-of-homeless-people.1364926/#post-148139008

Yeah, that's the country whites should want to invade.

Haiti.

One of the most successful examples of an African uprising against foreign European colonizers.

I'd give up all my Moba stock to Nepenthe if she could point to Haiti on a map. She's gotta give me a fursuit if she points at Madagascar though.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-reminder-thanksgiving-celebrates-a-myth-of-colonialism-and-white-proprietorship-of-the-u-s.1365442/#post-148158307

Like at our dinner when we bless the food, we even take time to bless the natives who endured all this nonsense and got us to this point

Like if yall not even doing that, then shut the hell up with the “I don’t even think about this” bullshit

 they're long fucking gone, they don't care about you performatively wasting 20 seconds every thanksgiving

there isn't even any mythology that would lead to a sense that they're floating around nearby and are appreciative of your bullshit

[Uncle]

The critique shouldn't be that whites or Americans celebrate Thanksgiving because bad things happened, the critique should be that they reject the message of the Thanksgiving story. The problem is that's too hard to demonstrate, especially if your only claim against them is that they don't feel bad about something that happened centuries before and was mostly not the fault of the colonizers because nobody understood germ theory for another few centuries. And especially if you have a corollary that nobody else should feel bad about this even though everyone on the entire planet lives in the world of that history. For example, Lucio only exists because of the genocide.

They don't even have this conversation on Era, instead it's all about how you should demonstrate your impeccable virtue by lecturing others about being less devout.

time to roll out this old chestnut again

[Potato]

Agreed. Turkey is shit. Who fucking eats that crap?

Skill issue.

Someone's mother can't cook 😞

Lol, only poor people eat turkey. Why would my mother cook that shit when lamb, beef, pork and chicken are readily available?

[Jansen]

Skill issue.

Someone's mother can't cook 😞

Lol, only poor people eat turkey. Why would my mother cook that shit when lamb, beef, pork and chicken are really available?

I understand why you feel that way since your mother apparently can't cook turkey at all

Saw you never had a badass turkey leg at the renaissance fair either fucking loser  

[Uncle]

I bless the rains down in Africa

wow, "down?" as if you consider africa "beneath" you, a lesser continent?

Guaranteed Nepenthe will be attending Thanksgiving dinner with her family and not saying a damn word about it. Melody is the only real OG here who refuses to eat the coloniser meal and goes hungry.

she won't be "attending" so much as "walking downstairs"

[Potato]

1764126202[/url]']
https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-men-tried-to-invade-haiti-and-enslave-the-people-using-firefighter-training-sailing-knowledge-and-an-army-of-homeless-people.1364926/#post-148139008

Yeah, that's the country whites should want to invade.

Haiti.

One of the most successful examples of an African uprising against foreign European colonizers.

I'd give up all my Moba stock to Nepenthe if she could point to Haiti on a map. She's gotta give me a fursuit if she points at Madagascar though.

Nepenthe would struggle to pinpoint Brazil on a map. A country she was all set to move to a little while ago.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-26-2025-georgia-prosecutor-kills-the-historic-election-interference-case-against-trump-and-allies.1365448/#post-148164517

Next post he tells them to 🎲

User Banned (1 month): Excessive hostility over multiple posts, previously actioned for hostility

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-26-2025-several-people-shot-in-washington-dc-up-2-national-guardsman-shot-possibly-dead.1365814/#post-148169464

Andor is playing out in real time before our eyes

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-26-2025-several-people-shot-in-washington-dc-up-2-national-guardsman-shot-possibly-dead.1365814/#post-148170367

Everybody calm down. Fear is the plan, not "If we leave the National Guard in place long enough, someone will shoot one and then we can finally activate our massive military crackdown."

I'll bet you one imaginary dollar that--assuming it isn't some random street shooting--this is the act of a right-wing crackpot, same as with Kirk and every other moment of political violence in recent years.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/november-26-2025-several-people-shot-in-washington-dc-up-2-national-guardsman-shot-possibly-dead.1365814/#post-148170766

My conspiracy theory brain screams that shit like this is orchestrated for nefarious purposes but I am also rational enough to realize that shit like this is statistically inevitable given the state of mental health and division in this country.

[Propagandhim]

We live in a white supremacist society and thus people have been trained to be servile to it at a minimum. The reflexive defensiveness of people towards a neutral reminder of the holiday's genocidal origins is symptomatic of this servility because the reminder itself serves as a critique because it is pointing out the status quo, the current reality, as a bad thing, and "good" people don't like being reminded of their potential complicity in bad systems.

 Nice try, bitch.   You're not the only one that graduated from Youtube University

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Oh, and I raise you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism

And for my finale...circular reasoning. 
"I state society is white supremacist and people are trained to be servile, I observe you mothafuckers getting defensive when criticized, ergo that defensiveness proves you are servile to white supremacy."


What say you now?!?  Debate me, bitch.