Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-photos-show-first-look-at-kennedy-center-facade-without-trump%E2%80%99s-name.1557946/#post-156854719

JFK was worthy of this building. He was instrumental in saving the world from nuclear annihilation.

[simiansmarts]

Speaking purely from a games and design perspective, I think before we can normalise women's breasts, we have to establish that they are not "for men". Or more broadly speaking, that women's bodies as a whole are women's property. The values and desires of men hold too much weight, both as the creator and the player/viewer. They assume everything is created in order to please/satisfy/benefit themselves, and currently very little exists that counteracts that worldview. That thinking not only goes uncontested, but is constantly bolstered by representation of women in popular games and franchises. I feel like trying to normalise in this climate (at least by way of making women's breasts less taboo) would only serve to make some men feel like they have more control, and are being catered to more. We first need to change that way of thinking, which to be honest sounds like a very difficult challenge because of how ingrained this distinction of women's and men's bodies are in society.

Maybe we could at least make a start by subverting expectations and breaking those holds where men's power over women's bodies is assumed and asserted. For example, with the portrayal of gay women who would otherwise be perceived as sexy or tantilising. And not just "Oh yeah, plus she's a lesbian" in her bio, but actually shown being gay with other women; only offering themselves to women, and rejecting the male gaze. Place a toxic male character and have his assertions confounded or even humiliated. Let men know explicitly that not everything is for them, and that women have agency over their own bodies and desires.

Similarly with male chests being seen as powerful, you could subvert this by having a big bare-chested man be portrayed as gay. Again, don't just hint at it in the lore, but show him in a cutscene or win pose actually being smitten with another man - both physically and vocally. I don't mean to imply that gay characters can't be powerful; I mean in the sense of the player seeing a burly chested man as a power fantasy - something they can use to uphold their worldview. Take that away from them. Show them men who they would idiolise as being able to have anything they want, and show them choosing to have other men.

...I'm sorry, I realise my suggestion in both cases literally boils down to "more gay characters!" lol - but this wouldn't be a bad thing in general. I understand this sort of approach would incur the wrath of alpha males, mysoginists and manbabies, but I'm imagining a big studio like Capcom doing something bold like this, and the positive voices overwhelming the negative ones. They would receive positive reception from both the gay community and ally players at large who are just here to play a fun game and appreciate cool designs. This would then be a form of "correction" whereby the vocal minority is drowned out, and those outdated, harmful ideologies would get exposed. We're seeing hints of this even now, and I think more extroverted moves in that direction would help to change the consensus.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-542#post-156852100

[Besticus Maximus]

I'd honestly be more impressed if that guy was jerking it off to his own hand drawn Dolans

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-photos-show-first-look-at-kennedy-center-facade-without-trump%E2%80%99s-name.1557946/#post-156854719

JFK was worthy of this building. He was instrumental in saving the world from nuclear annihilation.

he protected us from nuclear annihilation,
united all peoples within our nation,
denounced the evils of truth and love,
and extended our reach to the stars above

[Besticus Maximus]

Now you see why I should be the successor of the bushin-ryu arbs

[jooseloose]

I knew about this for a while, but now seems a great time to reveal this!

Ahem!

So you know ImaPlayThis, burka thread weenie behind this laughable post?

I saw that Stellar Blade tweet and the reference to DOA and istg I'm so tired with the sexualisation in fighting games and how much clickbait there is amongst content creators. A user posted a video in the street fighter thread (no hate to the user btw it was a combo video or guide or something but the thumbnail was of a shot from cammy's CA while in her classic thong leotard and it was soo in your your face. I mention this because someone last night on twitter pointed out that if you google Chun-Li one of the images that pops up right away is this (a thumbnail to one of max's video) 
 
And I've seen replies to that tweet from others basically confirming that they got the same thing when they searched Chun-Li (so I assume it's true and not a big meme). I don't think I really need to explain the problems with this here, but it just left me with an awful taste in my mouth and while everyones joking about it and finding it funny it is symbolic of so many issues in the fgc and potentially contributing to the rises of harassment that's been happening as I posted about a week or two ago

I also just decided to test it and that video pops up bigger and more centrally in the overview than a tutorial video on how to play her. I'm tired

  

I've never had people reacting to characters in that way before when I search for a character and I often search characters up, I did it loads recently while trying to piece the timeline together and characters ages, so yeah this is a new thing for me. You're not wrong in anything you say about lip service, tournaments and the SF6 swimsuits but the fact reaction images like that appear in the AI overview that googles forced on us, it's just adding a layer of conditioning to anyone who looks up characters in how they should be acting/treating these characters.

 

Ooooh oooooh so much sexual objectification of woooomen, ooooooh stop tweating these female characters with such pornbrained lust, ooooh da male gaze, the fighting gwame community has been rwuined by you gooooooooners, oooh Maxxx Dood, I'm soooooo disappointed an' disgussssssted in you.... women being made sooooooo uncoooooooomfortable..............

......

Well, well, well...

Guess what you'll find when you simply search up the username "ImaPlayThis"?

His deviantart account.

Yes, he will show us the way! How not to objectify women. He will show us the glorious light to cleanse our evil gooner sins. Destroy the male gaze! And promote safe spaces for all! 

Spoiler: His Profile and Amazing Artistic Skills   (click to show)(click to hide)

But.... what's this? A whole favorite list named..... "Ecchi"?

I wonder what this could mean? 

Spoiler: NSFW, You Have Been Warned (click to show)(click to hide)

ImaPlayThis Ecchi folder on deviantart






BY THE WAY, THIS IS MOST NORMAL / LEAST CREEPIEST SHIT IN THE FOLDER.

THERE ARE LOLIS, FURRIES, WWE PILEDRIVER FETISHES, SPANKING, AND EVEN A FEW LOLI FURRIES!  



Anyway, he's got some kind of serious panty fixation going on. And some of them look very.... non-consensual. I mean... unconscious younger girls being carried away, and upskirt panty shots? That's just fucking creepy dude  

Morever....


Mai Shirauni, Ivy Valentine, Sophitia, Cammy, Felicia?!?! Enemies of the burka nation?!


Is that CHUN-LI ....in a thong?!?! Who you were just pouting and whining over being sexualized?!?!


EVE STELLAR BLADE?! SATAN HERSELF?!?!

This motherfucking HYPOCRITE GOONER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup.

Also, quickly, someone pls archive the links in case he tries to mass delete or something.

Another one found out

[Gameboy Nostalgia]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-photos-show-first-look-at-kennedy-center-facade-without-trump%E2%80%99s-name.1557946/#post-156854719

JFK was worthy of this building. He was instrumental in saving the world from nuclear annihilation.

wow lets give props to the guy who created USAID and butchered local economies and created a forced reliance on the USA.

we love soft power imperialism here 

but y'all ain't ready for this convo

[StandingOvation]

Alright folks, been a while.

Just off the top, Jesus Christ is SilentPanda irritating. Before we only had to deal with news regurgitation, now it’s DeepL translated news posts from Japan/China.

I find their posts fall into 3 categories:
- US/Western discourse (usually Trump related) designed to rile up Era folks.
- AI news/discourse designed to rile up AI haters.
- Funny China/China adjacent news stories/anrticles about how quirky and neat and totally-not-a-problem China is.

I love how in the Pics to make you Laugh thread, they’re just straight up posting Chinese memes with little-to-no context, like your average Era user will be able to parse any of the Chinese in the images.

[HaughtyFrank]

Speaking purely from a games and design perspective, I think before we can normalise women's breasts, we have to establish that they are not "for men". Or more broadly speaking, that women's bodies as a whole are women's property. The values and desires of men hold too much weight, both as the creator and the player/viewer. They assume everything is created in order to please/satisfy/benefit themselves, and currently very little exists that counteracts that worldview. That thinking not only goes uncontested, but is constantly bolstered by representation of women in popular games and franchises. I feel like trying to normalise in this climate (at least by way of making women's breasts less taboo) would only serve to make some men feel like they have more control, and are being catered to more. We first need to change that way of thinking, which to be honest sounds like a very difficult challenge because of how ingrained this distinction of women's and men's bodies are in society.

Maybe we could at least make a start by subverting expectations and breaking those holds where men's power over women's bodies is assumed and asserted. For example, with the portrayal of gay women who would otherwise be perceived as sexy or tantilising. And not just "Oh yeah, plus she's a lesbian" in her bio, but actually shown being gay with other women; only offering themselves to women, and rejecting the male gaze. Place a toxic male character and have his assertions confounded or even humiliated. Let men know explicitly that not everything is for them, and that women have agency over their own bodies and desires.

Similarly with male chests being seen as powerful, you could subvert this by having a big bare-chested man be portrayed as gay. Again, don't just hint at it in the lore, but show him in a cutscene or win pose actually being smitten with another man - both physically and vocally. I don't mean to imply that gay characters can't be powerful; I mean in the sense of the player seeing a burly chested man as a power fantasy - something they can use to uphold their worldview. Take that away from them. Show them men who they would idiolise as being able to have anything they want, and show them choosing to have other men.

...I'm sorry, I realise my suggestion in both cases literally boils down to "more gay characters!" lol - but this wouldn't be a bad thing in general. I understand this sort of approach would incur the wrath of alpha males, mysoginists and manbabies, but I'm imagining a big studio like Capcom doing something bold like this, and the positive voices overwhelming the negative ones. They would receive positive reception from both the gay community and ally players at large who are just here to play a fun game and appreciate cool designs. This would then be a form of "correction" whereby the vocal minority is drowned out, and those outdated, harmful ideologies would get exposed. We're seeing hints of this even now, and I think more extroverted moves in that direction would help to change the consensus.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-542#post-156852100

Ugh, no, not fictional hot lesbians having explicit lesbian sex, my only weakness. I'm melting, I'm melting. Ohhhhh, what a world.

[Besticus Maximus]

#143

Fossora said:
Fine fine, how about Higurashi then?



I absolutely adore it, but its original form was... Quite something.
Click to shrink...

This kind of drawning creeps me out. Not because of a lack of quality but because I feel it's hiding the true nature of the game.

[Jansen]

Speaking purely from a games and design perspective, I think before we can normalise women's breasts, we have to establish that they are not "for men". Or more broadly speaking, that women's bodies as a whole are women's property. The values and desires of men hold too much weight, both as the creator and the player/viewer. They assume everything is created in order to please/satisfy/benefit themselves, and currently very little exists that counteracts that worldview. That thinking not only goes uncontested, but is constantly bolstered by representation of women in popular games and franchises. I feel like trying to normalise in this climate (at least by way of making women's breasts less taboo) would only serve to make some men feel like they have more control, and are being catered to more. We first need to change that way of thinking, which to be honest sounds like a very difficult challenge because of how ingrained this distinction of women's and men's bodies are in society.

Maybe we could at least make a start by subverting expectations and breaking those holds where men's power over women's bodies is assumed and asserted. For example, with the portrayal of gay women who would otherwise be perceived as sexy or tantilising. And not just "Oh yeah, plus she's a lesbian" in her bio, but actually shown being gay with other women; only offering themselves to women, and rejecting the male gaze. Place a toxic male character and have his assertions confounded or even humiliated. Let men know explicitly that not everything is for them, and that women have agency over their own bodies and desires.

Similarly with male chests being seen as powerful, you could subvert this by having a big bare-chested man be portrayed as gay. Again, don't just hint at it in the lore, but show him in a cutscene or win pose actually being smitten with another man - both physically and vocally. I don't mean to imply that gay characters can't be powerful; I mean in the sense of the player seeing a burly chested man as a power fantasy - something they can use to uphold their worldview. Take that away from them. Show them men who they would idiolise as being able to have anything they want, and show them choosing to have other men.

...I'm sorry, I realise my suggestion in both cases literally boils down to "more gay characters!" lol - but this wouldn't be a bad thing in general. I understand this sort of approach would incur the wrath of alpha males, mysoginists and manbabies, but I'm imagining a big studio like Capcom doing something bold like this, and the positive voices overwhelming the negative ones. They would receive positive reception from both the gay community and ally players at large who are just here to play a fun game and appreciate cool designs. This would then be a form of "correction" whereby the vocal minority is drowned out, and those outdated, harmful ideologies would get exposed. We're seeing hints of this even now, and I think more extroverted moves in that direction would help to change the consensus.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-542#post-156852100

I mean you know they didn't actually write that, right? The first sentence alone is a dead giveaway.

[Jansen]

I knew about this for a while, but now seems a great time to reveal this!

Ahem!

So you know ImaPlayThis, burka thread weenie behind this laughable post?

I saw that Stellar Blade tweet and the reference to DOA and istg I'm so tired with the sexualisation in fighting games and how much clickbait there is amongst content creators. A user posted a video in the street fighter thread (no hate to the user btw it was a combo video or guide or something but the thumbnail was of a shot from cammy's CA while in her classic thong leotard and it was soo in your your face. I mention this because someone last night on twitter pointed out that if you google Chun-Li one of the images that pops up right away is this (a thumbnail to one of max's video) 
 
And I've seen replies to that tweet from others basically confirming that they got the same thing when they searched Chun-Li (so I assume it's true and not a big meme). I don't think I really need to explain the problems with this here, but it just left me with an awful taste in my mouth and while everyones joking about it and finding it funny it is symbolic of so many issues in the fgc and potentially contributing to the rises of harassment that's been happening as I posted about a week or two ago

I also just decided to test it and that video pops up bigger and more centrally in the overview than a tutorial video on how to play her. I'm tired

  

I've never had people reacting to characters in that way before when I search for a character and I often search characters up, I did it loads recently while trying to piece the timeline together and characters ages, so yeah this is a new thing for me. You're not wrong in anything you say about lip service, tournaments and the SF6 swimsuits but the fact reaction images like that appear in the AI overview that googles forced on us, it's just adding a layer of conditioning to anyone who looks up characters in how they should be acting/treating these characters.

 

Ooooh oooooh so much sexual objectification of woooomen, ooooooh stop tweating these female characters with such pornbrained lust, ooooh da male gaze, the fighting gwame community has been rwuined by you gooooooooners, oooh Maxxx Dood, I'm soooooo disappointed an' disgussssssted in you.... women being made sooooooo uncoooooooomfortable..............

......

Well, well, well...

Guess what you'll find when you simply search up the username "ImaPlayThis"?

His deviantart account.

Yes, he will show us the way! How not to objectify women. He will show us the glorious light to cleanse our evil gooner sins. Destroy the male gaze! And promote safe spaces for all! 

Spoiler: His Profile and Amazing Artistic Skills   (click to show)(click to hide)

But.... what's this? A whole favorite list named..... "Ecchi"?

I wonder what this could mean? 

Spoiler: NSFW, You Have Been Warned (click to show)(click to hide)

ImaPlayThis Ecchi folder on deviantart






BY THE WAY, THIS IS MOST NORMAL / LEAST CREEPIEST SHIT IN THE FOLDER.

THERE ARE LOLIS, FURRIES, WWE PILEDRIVER FETISHES, SPANKING, AND EVEN A FEW LOLI FURRIES!  



Anyway, he's got some kind of serious panty fixation going on. And some of them look very.... non-consensual. I mean... unconscious younger girls being carried away, and upskirt panty shots? That's just fucking creepy dude  

Morever....


Mai Shirauni, Ivy Valentine, Sophitia, Cammy, Felicia?!?! Enemies of the burka nation?!


Is that CHUN-LI ....in a thong?!?! Who you were just pouting and whining over being sexualized?!?!


EVE STELLAR BLADE?! SATAN HERSELF?!?!

This motherfucking HYPOCRITE GOONER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup.

Also, quickly, someone pls archive the links in case he tries to mass delete or something.

Loves bloody roar oh...

 https://www.resetera.com/threads/yesterday-the-bloody-roar-franchise-turned-27-years-old-having-debuted-in-arcades-on-the-7th-july-1997.921720/

Just in case the reees watching had any doubts

[Mediocre Lager]

Well now you guys definitely aren't getting a commission.

[Shecky Fragbaum]

Even the avatar is kinda suss.



It's as if Mayor Haggar is trying to setup a rendezvous with some 2nd grader.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

[Potato]

Speaking purely from a games and design perspective, I think before we can normalise women's breasts, we have to establish that they are not "for men".

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-542#post-156852100

Any time you have doubts about your own intelligence or common sense or general decency as a human being, just remember that someone wrote that in the earnest belief that they're clever and "on the right side of history".

[Taco Bell Tower]

Even the avatar is kinda suss.



It's as if Mayor Haggar is trying to setup a rendezvous with some 2nd grader.

Spoiler:  (click to show)(click to hide)

That's very sus since we know what was showing in the game.

[Daffy Duck]

This fucking thread  https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-we%E2%80%99re-all-playing-meccha-chameleon-right.1556695/

So many miserable cunts when someone recommends a new game that isn't the latest prestige-bait single player Sonyslop.

lol Jeff is aware of what site he’s posting on right? He’s so close to enlightenment

[Daffy Duck]

I actually think the game looks fun but, they are right in that the thread title is hostile.
On a forum as large as this any thread title that implies everyone is doing something is hostile to the people not doing it. It makes people not interested in the game feel like they don't belong and excluded, and challenging anyone who dislikes it to stay out.
It makes more sense as a question between friends to confirm plans, rather than the title to a post that will garner thousands of views.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-we%E2%80%99re-all-playing-meccha-chameleon-right.1556695/page-7#post-156808165

This might be the single most dumbest post I’ve ever read on that site, and that’s saying something!

[Daffy Duck]

Oh shit

https://www.resetera.com/threads/olivia-rodrigo-announces-first-daisy-chain-fields-music-festival-by-women-and-girls-in-support-of-women-and-girls.1557622/

By women for women. Trans ree are not going to like that

Depends if she says the line or not

[killamajig]

I actually think the game looks fun but, they are right in that the thread title is hostile.
On a forum as large as this any thread title that implies everyone is doing something is hostile to the people not doing it. It makes people not interested in the game feel like they don't belong and excluded, and challenging anyone who dislikes it to stay out.
It makes more sense as a question between friends to confirm plans, rather than the title to a post that will garner thousands of views.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-we%E2%80%99re-all-playing-meccha-chameleon-right.1556695/page-7#post-156808165

This might be the single most dumbest post I’ve ever read on that site, and that’s saying something!

He edited it 

I actually think the game looks fun, I personally don't like the thread title but it's not that big of a deal.

[simiansmarts]

Well now you guys definitely aren't getting a commission.

I’m tempted to message him for a commission about a drawing to showcase “fixed” fighting game designs for women with less sexualization

[simiansmarts]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-541#post-156842158 
 
Echos has been hiding a lot of his posts recently. Perhaps it's because even he has an ounce of self-awareness for how depraved he sounds

[Let's Cyber]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-541#post-156842158 
 
Echos has been hiding a lot of his posts recently. Perhaps it's because even he has an ounce of self-awareness for how depraved he sounds

Something something lesbians. Something something the protagonist of the last game you beat is now your roommate. Something something lesbians in games. Something something lesbians in movies.  

If I start wearing a dress, can I spam the board about my lesbian fetish too? 

[HaughtyFrank]

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-542#post-156852100

Any time you have doubts about your own intelligence or common sense or general decency as a human being, just remember that someone wrote that in the earnest belief that they're clever and "on the right side of history".

There's genuinely this belief among them that heterosexuality is one of the greatest crimes to ever exist. "How dare you find breasts attractive, they're not for you!" Imagine talking like that about any other physiology. "How dare women find symmetrical faces attractive, they're not for you!"

Just a fundamental misunderstanding of how attraction works

[TylenolJones]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/june-22-2026-director-and-writer-paul-feig-speaks-out-against-ai-says-that-ai-is-technology-literally-none-of-us-asked-for.1557430/#post-156830539

 User banned (3 days): thread derail and trolling

OP, does he check in to Marriott often?

What happened to 1 week minimum bans?

It is one thing to make fun of a single thread, but it a completely different thing to keep doing across totally unrelated threads.

What you guys are doing is no different from bullying the user and you are actively derailing threads to do so. It stops now.

Everyone doing it has gotten a 1 day ban, anyone doing it going forward gets a week to start.

It stops now.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-make-her-look-more-corpulent-more-stuffed-where-the-eyes-cant-escape.275780/page-541#post-156842158 
 
Echos has been hiding a lot of his posts recently. Perhaps it's because even he has an ounce of self-awareness for how depraved he sounds

I realize it's a bit weird to reply to myself but I've been thinking about something a couple for friends said to me when I discussed this topic with them, that de-sexualization isn't really the right word for it but rather normalization. As pointed out there are many women and men who lust over or find men's chests and breasts sexy, I remember when Ganondorf's design for Tears of the Kingdom was revealed and their were many men and women in my friend group found him sexy, especially his chest; and yet men's chests aren't treated as a taboo like women's breasts to be hidden away or treated as way more rude them revealing a man's breast despite their being not much difference.

Like in many fighting games, many men walk around bare chested and no one treats that as weird or wrong, like even Smash does this with Sephiroth, but Mai is barred from the same game for having a too revealing costume for CERO despite revealing less skin then the the Sephiroth alt costume .

And I wonder if we push for the normalization of women's breasts, pushing back against the taboo, we end up pushing back against objectification of women's breast, take away men's power to control what women wear, positioned etc. Like we here discuss a lot about the differences in how men and women are sexualized and it is so silly that the same act should have two different meanings. "Wow that man has his tits out, how strong and manly!" and "Wow that woman has her tits out, what a whore there's children present!" why can't women be seen as strong and powerful? Toxic masculinity sucks

[Jansen]

Normalization is seeing a big pair of titties and getting turned on my dude

[simiansmarts]

Any time you have doubts about your own intelligence or common sense or general decency as a human being, just remember that someone wrote that in the earnest belief that they're clever and "on the right side of history".

There's genuinely this belief among them that heterosexuality is one of the greatest crimes to ever exist. "How dare you find breasts attractive, they're not for you!" Imagine talking like that about any other physiology. "How dare women find symmetrical faces attractive, they're not for you!"

Just a fundamental misunderstanding of how attraction works

It's a combination of hating male heterosexuality and intense self-loathing as men which spurred them to transition/call themselves nonbinary to escape the label of being a heterosexual male even though they still find women attractive (that means big titties and asses should be for lesbian eyes ONLY). They have this weird black and white worldview where men are synonymous with the evil incel far-right conservative gamer chuds unless they're gay and women are uber wholesome progressive allies that only get together with the evil men because capitalism brainwashed them into heterosexuality. 
 
Think of it as the most extreme version of the "I'm a nice guy!" mindset 
 

[D3RANG3D]

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Hoes mad! The real one and definitely the malding fake resetera/bluesky variants...

[DavidCroquet]

Me, marathon watching explicit macromastia porn on max volume, my sore and battered cock openly hanging out of my cum-encrusted jeans, stinking like hell and visibly in a state of extreme exhaustion: "why can't women be seen as strong and powerful? Toxic masculinity sucks"