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If someone could coax her away from her Rights For Whites Concerned Citizens meetings, now would be the perfect time for Morrigan to slither back in to the mod's seat.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-kissinger-dead-at-100.790116/

I expect tasteful discourse.

Quote:Glad to know this piece of shit is finally dead

Nevermind.
It's all over twitter.
(11-30-2023, 12:48 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/bob-iger-blames-streaming-for-recent-box-office-disappointments-says-the-marvels-had-too-little-supervision.790092/#post-115582590
Fj0823 wrote:
Slayven wrote:feels real close to "Women and coloreds can't be trusted"
This was always what was going to happen and the cheers and high fives and "marketability concerns" we've seen here and everywhere else regarding The Marvels help it happen.

Anyone who knows how these asshat execs think saw it coming.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bob-iger-blames-streaming-for-recent-box-office-disappointments-says-the-marvels-had-too-little-supervision.790092/page-2#post-115583343
Fj0823 wrote:
Vareon wrote:That is a really gross conclusion lol.
It's the conclusion we knew was coming while the internet cheered and had post after post celebrating the failure of The Marvels, or the original reaction to Elemental,or when any diverse hero was dismissed as an uninteresting loser from the get go, or when Halle Berry's Little Mermaid underpeformance was celebrated because it would somehow mean the end of remakes (despite it having a very clear race based hate campaign) or when trades took potshots at Nia DaCosta for saying she liked Advent Children or attending her birthday while Riddley Scott is based for insulting historians.

I know you can't blame audiences or the internet for the problems Disney has had on it's pipeline and it's poor quality control. But the internet DID ask for this, even here on ERA. It was loud and clear and told them this was the easy, safe solution that would bring them back.

And an idiot like Iger decided to listen.
Crybaby
Halle Berry played Little Mermaid, eh?
ufup
(11-30-2023, 01:57 AM)Straight Edge wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-kissinger-dead-at-100.790116/

I expect tasteful discourse.

Quote:Glad to know this piece of shit is finally dead

Nevermind.

Eh, I'll allow it
(11-29-2023, 10:50 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote: Wait until they find this one https://collider.com/bob-iger-the-marvels-box-office/

Quote:Bob Iger talked about why the sequel to Captain Marvel failed to become a success at the box office, considering the first installment earned over $1 billion when it was released in 2019: "The Marvels was shot during Covid, and there wasn't enough supervision on set [from executives."

facepalm 

it failed compared to the first one because the first one released between infinity war and endgame, the biggest movie event in who knows how long, and everyone thought it would provide important context, or at least help continue the story, or were so dumb as to think it might even be the next real installment/conclusion
(11-29-2023, 04:36 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote: I recently took a look at their Cyberpunk thread and the big staff post and this bulletpoint is such an insane reach among the already pathetic reaches:

Quote:Compounding the issue is the fact that the character creator lets you pick your genitalia. This allows for transphobes to create avatars that can be used to once again make a mocker of transgender people.
Literally arguing against "inclusive" features because of fears that somewhere bad people will use them wrong.

(11-29-2023, 05:37 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/robert-de-niro-says-his-gotham-awards-speech-was-censored-anti-trump-comments-removed-without-notice.789546/page-2#post-115527066
ClickyCal wrote:I personally consider someone being anti-vax an extreme circumstance, considering that that entire worldwide group of people led to millions of deaths to covid
So TransEra really is exempt from the posting misinformation rules?

(11-29-2023, 05:56 PM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/vgc-embracer-ceo-confirms-timesplitters-studio-faces-closure-before-christmas.789558/#post-115522533
Quote:  User Banned (1 Month): Misogynistic Slur
JurassicJack17 wrote:Go fuck yourself embracer, you disgusting cunts

(By the way I know I'll be banned for the use of the C-word but I think it's very fitting to these scumbags)
Yeah, those cunts, they should have never funded the studio in the first place!

(11-29-2023, 09:19 PM)kaleidoscopium wrote:
clickyCal wrote:Joanne has blood smeared across her hands of Brianna and every other trans murder. Just venting at how sickening this is and how much I despise her and what she is doing to the UK and the world wide trans community. I'm just in distraught from this.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-94#post-115570344
Again, TransEra and misinformation, same user. The teens had a list of people they knew they wanted to kill and how they wanted to kill them. They killed one of these people as they wanted to. Are they trying to argue that without Joanne, who these teens were obviously huge fans of and never stopped refreshing her Twitter, they would have murdered a cis person first?

I'm just in distraught from this.

(11-29-2023, 11:03 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
Quote:ncredible that disney's water-down, easy to censor and excise for other markets, displays of progressivism is somehow TOO MUCH for him. in the era of trump, desantis and florida, anti-trans laws, etc etc and this guy is going to thickly hint that their largely milquetoast attempts at inclusivity were too much?

more capitulation to stochastic threats from the far right
https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-ceo-bob-iger-says-he-will-%E2%80%98definitely-step-down%E2%80%99-after-contract-ends-in-2026-also-criticizes-chapeks-tenure.790005/post-115579443

Okay, what does this even mean? When did everyone start using stochastic?
I really don't think Bob Iger gives a shit about those things, especially when they're toothless "threats" to Disney, he wants to make money.

It's one thing to put overt messages in your art, it's another to make it your branding and marketing.
Uncle dateline='[url=tel:1701311700' wrote: 1701311700[/url]']
kaleidoscopium dateline='[url=tel:1701298255' wrote: 1701298255[/url]']
Wait until they find this one https://collider.com/bob-iger-the-marvels-box-office/

Quote:Bob Iger talked about why the sequel to Captain Marvel failed to become a success at the box office, considering the first installment earned over $1 billion when it was released in 2019: "The Marvels was shot during Covid, and there wasn't enough supervision on set [from executives."

facepalm 

it failed compared to the first one because the first one released between infinity war and endgame, the biggest movie event in who knows how long, and everyone thought it would provide important context, or at least help continue the story, or were so dumb as to think it might even be the next real installment/conclusion

I mean, he is not going to say: “the first film was shit and only made money because it was between the biggest films ever”. That would be admitting he was approving everything during the gold rush and  l greenlighted a disastrous sequel betting in this being never ending.
(11-30-2023, 02:34 AM)AldusMoneyPenny wrote:
(11-30-2023, 01:57 AM)Straight Edge wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-kissinger-dead-at-100.790116/

I expect tasteful discourse.

Quote:Glad to know this piece of shit is finally dead

Nevermind.

Eh, I'll allow it
Kissinger talked Nixon out of genociding the Vietnamese multiple times. So you're saying you support genocide? Social Justice Warrior

Kissinger was behind recognizing China and having Nixon go. So you're saying you're Sinophobic? Social Justice Warrior 2
(11-30-2023, 12:48 AM)Hap Shaughnessy wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/bob-iger-blames-streaming-for-recent-box-office-disappointments-says-the-marvels-had-too-little-supervision.790092/#post-115582590
Fj0823 wrote:
Slayven wrote:feels real close to "Women and coloreds can't be trusted"
This was always what was going to happen and the cheers and high fives and "marketability concerns" we've seen here and everywhere else regarding The Marvels help it happen.

Anyone who knows how these asshat execs think saw it coming.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bob-iger-blames-streaming-for-recent-box-office-disappointments-says-the-marvels-had-too-little-supervision.790092/page-2#post-115583343
Fj0823 wrote:
Vareon wrote:That is a really gross conclusion lol.
It's the conclusion we knew was coming while the internet cheered and had post after post celebrating the failure of The Marvels, or the original reaction to Elemental,or when any diverse hero was dismissed as an uninteresting loser from the get go, or when Halle Berry's Little Mermaid underpeformance was celebrated because it would somehow mean the end of remakes (despite it having a very clear race based hate campaign) or when trades took potshots at Nia DaCosta for saying she liked Advent Children or attending her birthday while Riddley Scott is based for insulting historians.

I know you can't blame audiences or the internet for the problems Disney has had on it's pipeline and it's poor quality control. But the internet DID ask for this, even here on ERA. It was loud and clear and told them this was the easy, safe solution that would bring them back.

And an idiot like Iger decided to listen.
Crybaby

This is what happens when you think diversity begins and ends with Disney
(11-29-2023, 11:03 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
Quote:ncredible that disney's water-down, easy to censor and excise for other markets, displays of progressivism is somehow TOO MUCH for him. in the era of trump, desantis and florida, anti-trans laws, etc etc and this guy is going to thickly hint that their largely milquetoast attempts at inclusivity were too much?

more capitulation to stochastic threats from the far right
https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-ceo-bob-iger-says-he-will-%E2%80%98definitely-step-down%E2%80%99-after-contract-ends-in-2026-also-criticizes-chapeks-tenure.790005/post-115579443

Okay, what does this even mean? When did everyone start using stochastic?

it means you literally didn't do anything wrong and if anyone were to directly accuse you of anything they would sound unhinged, so they use a fancy word that implies "you signal boosted something while knowing others would take it and run wild with it"
Uncle dateline='[url=tel:1701313053' wrote: 1701313053[/url]']
HaughtyFrank dateline='[url=tel:1701299007' wrote: 1701299007[/url]']
Quote:ncredible that disney's water-down, easy to censor and excise for other markets, displays of progressivism is somehow TOO MUCH for him. in the era of trump, desantis and florida, anti-trans laws, etc etc and this guy is going to thickly hint that their largely milquetoast attempts at inclusivity were too much?

more capitulation to stochastic threats from the far right
https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-ceo-bob-iger-says-he-will-%E2%80%98definitely-step-down%E2%80%99-after-contract-ends-in-2026-also-criticizes-chapeks-tenure.790005/post-115579443

Okay, what does this even mean? When did everyone start using stochastic?

it means you literally didn't do anything wrong and if anyone were to directly accuse you of anything they would sound unhinged, so they use a fancy word that implies "you signal boosted something while knowing others would take it and run wild with it"

The end result of assholes thinking that ignoring trolling was somehow submitting to it.
It's a totalitarian mentality, in the original sense of the word that led to the political one, you must consider the totality of every action and if it might butterfly effect cascade into fascist genocide. And yes, it will as long as capitalism is allowed to remain, so do nothing but what you're told by the Right Side of History.
Quote:Their movies are flopping because they are unappealing. Period.

These comments are a bad look. I remember when Iger's image was untouchable. Now he just sounds idiotic.

I wonder… I wonder…
(11-29-2023, 08:24 PM)Potato wrote: It's a direct result of reading comic books.
I need to defend my people. Comic fans who actually really read the stuff seem to be far more critical and negative about the nonsense or pandering or whatever in comics compared to the brand fans who attach themselves to everything Marvel or whatever. I've thought the former have always been more critical of the MCU and more forgiving of the DCEU (and Sony thing) because they're actually aware of what has been done or attempted in the comics regarding narratives. The MCU embodies a lot of the most disliked tropes that comics went through many decades ago. (Not saying they don't still happen, DC and Marvel are corporations after all, but most good writers are well aware of them.) I know not everyone holds my appreciation for how Snyder and Patty Jenkins tapped into a thematic core that is a special strength of comics and their form of storytelling but I think it's obvious why brand fans would never be on board with it. (I think the Sony stuff is an amusing very cynical type of "you know these characters so you'll see it anyway you obsessed pieces of shit" that has created this sense of freedom you sometimes see in comics from the same situation where somebody gets roped into doing a book that the company wants but doesn't care too much about and so does what they want like giving Venom cum eyes and making the whole thing a strange sexual metaphor that turns out to be successful specifically because nobody at the company really cared.) If somebody somehow adopted Planetary completely straight to film/TV, it'd blow the casual and brand fans minds and there would be a neverending stream of idiots writing paeans about how SEE MOM CAPESHIT ACTUALLY IS ART AND MEANS SOMETHING! When the whole thing isn't really that far divorced from what Snyder did or things like The Authority (that Gunn is now adapting) where someone simply is attempting to take the logic of superhero comics to the obvious places they'd go in a bit more realistic world that has one different premise: superheroes are a thing.

Slayven's just mentally handicapped and probably legitimately smooth-brained, though even he seems to have this critical eye when he begins dipping into the actual comics he shifts to brand fan when it moves to movies or cartoons or whatever else.
I appreciate Snyder attempting a lot of of stuff, I just think he was never the one capable of doing given his projects PreDCEU. I guess the kindest thing I can say about Man of Steel is that had better squandered potential than Dr Strange 1.

But, if anything, I appreciate his sincerity in doing this cape shit that I love.
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I was pretty meh on Man of Steel and BvS, though I never thought they "betrayed" or "didn't get" the characters, until I saw Zack Snyder's Justice League, it actually elevated the prior movies by showing how there was a character arc for everyone, but ironically, Superman. I think killing Superman was still his biggest mistake but I can see why he did it, he needed an event that would have justifiably pulled Bruce and Diana back.

Though I'm somewhat glad Snyder didn't get to do the final part of his story because that's where it really falls apart (totally like actual comics!) it's funny in retrospect how Warner shot themselves in the foot. If they had let Snyder do the five movies and out contained Snyderverse and then launched their DC film/TV franchise in the wake of it, it probably would have made bank and let them escape the MCU's peak while still putting out DC blockbusters every year. Which is what they're doing now after wasting seven years and really only getting one real hit (of the level they expected) out of it in Aquaman. (Wonder Woman seems to have been a fairly early conceived spin-off film set in the Snyderverse before they decided to make the whole DCEU thing. Suicide Squad similarly fits in here somewhere, Steppenwolf was originally the villain in it and it'd only be Darkseid coming in Justice League.)

It took years but everyone seems to have finally come around to the fact that the Constantine film was very much in the thematic sense of the comic even with all its "wrong" things like his hair color. So I can be forgiving of those who did not see the true expression of the faith and were misled by those with the gaudy False Titan stripped of his nihilism and death fetish. Snob
I love that they think Bob Iger is concluding "no more women or darkies" because that's the only redeeming thing they see in any of this. (And they're black-and-white all-or-nothing totalitarian thinkers.) When his literal wording seems to be suggesting that he sees the obvious, that "women and darkies" alone isn't a selling point, and he never ran Disney in the fashion they're suggesting before. They act like he left Disney in 1951 not 2021.
Imagine the mainstream reaction of Comics Thanos.
Joanne and stochastic terrorism - name a more perfect couple
They can act upset about Iger's response. We all know they enjoy it because now they have a new thing to rally behind. The need to be the perpetual victim and tut-tut others is a drug and they can't be without their newest hit.
Does Resetera know?





omg
"I hired Zack Snyder if he agreed to one condition, no women but Elektra and no darkies and he fist bumped me. Hail Trump." - Bob Iger, 2024.

Spoiler:  (click to show)
"Just according to Keikaku." - David Zaslav
(11-29-2023, 11:03 PM)HaughtyFrank wrote:
Quote:ncredible that disney's water-down, easy to censor and excise for other markets, displays of progressivism is somehow TOO MUCH for him. in the era of trump, desantis and florida, anti-trans laws, etc etc and this guy is going to thickly hint that their largely milquetoast attempts at inclusivity were too much?

more capitulation to stochastic threats from the far right
https://www.resetera.com/threads/disney-ceo-bob-iger-says-he-will-%E2%80%98definitely-step-down%E2%80%99-after-contract-ends-in-2026-also-criticizes-chapeks-tenure.790005/post-115579443

Okay, what does this even mean? When did everyone start using stochastic?

It's been a retard word for a while.
(11-29-2023, 11:21 PM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: Planetsmasher confirmed to be in his 40s
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-has-changed-nightcrawlers-origin.789843/#post-115558374
Slayven
Quote:More like 40
Planetsmasher
Quote:Don't remind me of how old I am, Slay. Don't.
Cat

Imagine being that useless in your 40s...
What
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-havent-watched-them-all-but-are-people-satisfied-with-how-the-monsterverse-has-been-managed-so-far.789957/#post-115568106
Quote:Watched Godzilla 2014 and Shin Godzilla back to back and I just can't stand Americans doing these kind of movies.
Anime Expert
(11-30-2023, 04:29 AM)HaughtyFrank wrote: Does Resetera know?





omg
holy fuck has Snyder been secretly based this entire time? I can guarantee you that the majority of filmmakers who've worked on MCU projects haven't read a single comic, let alone Elektra Lives again (Frank Miller's secret magnum opus). 

anyway I admit I am a bit excited for Rebel Moon. I appreciate Netflix funding high budget sci-fi shlock.  Trumps
Honestly, marvel doing stylized one offs, disconnected from whatever the main connected shit show is, would probably help. Ranging from stuff like 300 and Sin City to even Joker. When 40 of their 43 movies look and feel the same, maybe audiences will start wanting something else. It’s the Ubisoft thing. You can only climb so many towers to add icons to your map.

I’m not savvy with box office shit but that seems to be part of the story with recent successes. Barbie is a heavily stylized movie that looks made by people. captain marvel 2 doesn’t.
(11-30-2023, 05:37 AM)Taco Bell Tower wrote: https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-havent-watched-them-all-but-are-people-satisfied-with-how-the-monsterverse-has-been-managed-so-far.789957/#post-115568106
Quote:Watched Godzilla 2014 and Shin Godzilla back to back and I just can't stand Americans doing these kind of movies.
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(11-29-2023, 07:15 AM)AldusMoneyPenny wrote: Truly insane thread in the making. Dude sounds like he works for some weird cult or snake oil product? Crying all day in front of the people he manages, even though he's not even really responsible for the bookings for this mystery joyous product that also sucks as but he also has themed his entire room at home with?

Quote:No. I had no say in the product. But I will say the product is awful. I feel so guilty selling tickets to it knowing what they are buying for such a high price. A decent amount of people quit midway through because they hate it.

I had such big aspirations for my team but I show up and I just cry at what the place has become. I don't know how to be a Leader when there's literally no guests. I feel so bad for the team when they come to me wishing they could do more. I don't have anything more to offer them.

But yet…

Quote:No, my company brings joy and happiness to families. Experiences they can't have anywhere else. It's more than just about making money. I moved across the country to work for them. It's everything to me. I don't have any passions besides it.

What is happening here?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-job-is-giving-me-intense-anxiety-and-depression-and-i%E2%80%99m-hitting-my-breaking-point.789723/
From 2018:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-borderline-personality-disorder.16988/ wrote:My life has been a wreck. I no longer have friends who care. My roommates refuse to look at me. Everyone I have cared about I have lost to my BPD. I spend every day alone in my room browsing the internet or playing video games. None of it brings me any joy or interest.

Night is the worst. When I'm left alone to my thoughts and forced to remember the people I have hurt due to my need to be loved all the time. I have tried to talk to those I have wronged but they have all moved on. It amazes me how easily people can drop me from their life and live as though I was never a part of it. While I suffer for months grieving the loss of a friend.

Despite this I have decided to no longer try and make friends. I'm done hurting others by manipulating them and taking time out of their life for me. I don't mean to be an awful person to them. I feel the need to have a group of people who love me. But like a drug addict, I crave that love more and more from them.

This disorder has ruined every aspect of my life.
Quote:I go to therapy. Not on any medications. BPD isn't something like depression or anxiety that meds can help. It's too far ingrained into my personality.

Every day I wake up. Go to my class. Eat lunch alone. Then head back to my room where I take a 3-4 hour nap and then sit around until it's night and I go to sleep again. The worst part is my roommates and I used to be best friends. They still are, just without me. They didn't want me anymore and dropped me like a bad habit. They don't know I have BPD. Everyday I can hear them laugh and have conversations. Just like when I was around. I haven't spoken to them in over 4 months. And they are happier because of it.
Quote:I do workout sometimes since I live less than a 5 minute walk to the gym, I have an app I use to meditate. Both of those things make me feel nothing but more tired and dull than I already felt before. I'm not going to be social as that will just get my hopes up or having a friend. I know no matter what I do I will end up hurting that person. It's like asking a recovering alcoholic to hang out at a bar.
Quote:
Quote:What actually went down between you and your roommates?
They wanted to throw a party in our dorm and I was going through a rough patch and wasn't in the mood for a party but the insisted on having it. So I told them if they had the party I would get the RA and get the party shut down.

They relented and had the party at a mutual friend's house off campus and I was feeling suicidal that night so I sat outside the house while they partied and watched them because I was afraid of being alone. They were convinced that I was there to call the cops on them despite me telling them I just needed to be with someone at the moment. A week later I ended up in the hospital due to self harm and when I got back they ignored me from then on.
Quote:But I was led to believe they were. I spent every meal with them every day. We would tell each other everything. Then to just be thrown away like garbage... I can't do it again. It already happened multiple times before back home and I thought going to college in a new place would change things. But I'm a toxic person to be friends with. I'm doing the world a favor by not making new friends who I could hurt and then subsequently be hurt by them.
Quote:I will be going starting next week to a psychologist who specializes in BPD treatments. I have been seeing a basic therapist for the past few months. It's a bit difficult to open however as my mom is a therapist so I've seen behind the curtain so to speak.


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