Journal of Other Forum Analysis (Volume II, Issue 2)

[Boredfrom]

so, I agree that members of the armed forces should refuse illegal orders that violate laws or rights or the constitution

Why the rest of the post then? Feels a little condescending to your military, doesn’t it?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Echos thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-youre-the-last-human-being-alive-three-million-years-into-deep-space.1358686/

[Uncle]

so, I agree that members of the armed forces should refuse illegal orders that violate laws or rights or the constitution

Why the rest of the post then? Feels a little condescending to your military, doesn’t it?

I don't trust the average anyone to know the law, most people don't know that you don't have to talk to police without a lawyer present, or that you don't have to answer the door to police without a warrant, that's why that stuff is constantly reiterated on social media as hot tips

feels like courts are constantly ruling one way or the other on which types of laws are constitutional or not, like upholding states' rights to block websites, or denying a push to ignore Trump's orders on this or that thing, whether denying SNAP is legal

it feels very likely that a member of the military refusing an order based on the urging of these congresspeople could easily fuck up their whole life

like, which recent military orders have been illegal? maybe they could tell us some, to help us know what we don't have to do

[Boredfrom]

like, which recent military orders have been illegal? maybe they could tell us some, to help us know what we don't have to do

You first? Is not my country and you seem like an expert.

To me is just a “no shit” condescending moment to say “a soldier could ruin their live by not following an order.”

it feels very likely that a member of the military refusing an order based on the urging of these congresspeople could easily fuck up their whole life

“Never question the president.”

[Uncle]

it is quite easy to authoritatively say the average person doesn't know the law to that level of precision when speaking from experience

[benji]

so, I agree that members of the armed forces should refuse illegal orders that violate laws or rights or the constitution

the problem with this is assuming the average service member knows the law well enough to be able to make that determination without fucking up their life completely

I'm picturing some left-leaning guy seeing this and then he's ordered to arrest someone and he refuses, and after a long court martial it's determined that the order was lawful

and then the consequences he suffers have a chilling effect on the rest of the military as they realize they don't really know which orders are lawful or unlawful themselves so they just do whatever they're told

not sure if this kind of message with what it implies should be done is a fully responsible one, but then again it is sentiment that should be allowed to be shared at any time, since on its face it is true

so, I agree that members of the armed forces should refuse illegal orders that violate laws or rights or the constitution

Why the rest of the post then? Feels a little condescending to your military, doesn’t it?

I don't trust the average anyone to know the law, most people don't know that you don't have to talk to police without a lawyer present, or that you don't have to answer the door to police without a warrant, that's why that stuff is constantly reiterated on social media as hot tips

feels like courts are constantly ruling one way or the other on which types of laws are constitutional or not, like upholding states' rights to block websites, or denying a push to ignore Trump's orders on this or that thing, whether denying SNAP is legal

it feels very likely that a member of the military refusing an order based on the urging of these congresspeople could easily fuck up their whole life

like, which recent military orders have been illegal? maybe they could tell us some, to help us know what we don't have to do

You're overimagining this scenario. To disobey orders he has to first take it up with those who have immediate command over him, along with others in his unit.

Being ordered to arrest someone is an easy one because he should easily be able to tell if the rule of law has been suspended and the police have been disbanded.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-calls-for-the-arrest-and-executions-of-democratic-congress-members.1359259/page-3#post-147924190

This is why I'm a bit scared for Mamdani tomorrow. If Trump truly feels cornered he will enter full autocrat mode. Like I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Mamdani is literally arrested live during the interview.

[benji]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deep-down-most-people-like-furries-they-just-don%E2%80%99t-know-it-yet-fuga-melodies-of-steel-and-aeruta-creators-talk-about-kemomimi-furries-appeal.1357552/page-6#post-147937465

This is hilariously deranged:

I never made a character judgement towards you specifically. I'm saying the idea that Furry hate can be entirely divorced from queerphobia is bullshit, in the same way that hating rap can be entirely divorced from anti-Blackness is bullshit.

There's not only an inextricable connection between these subcultures and their demographics, but the subcultures and demographics also exist in a wider, bigoted society at large. You can't approach this in a vacuum.

"I'm not homophobic, I just don't like the fursuits." Then don't look at them. Problem solved. "I'm not racist, I just can't understand what they're saying." Then don't listen to rap. Or hang around more Black people so you can figure it out. Problem solved.

Any adult obsessively whinging and shitting themselves in 2025 over rap deserves to be told to shut the fuck up; same when this behavior is leveled at Furries. If people find that unfair, tough shit. They can retreat back into their weird-ass little hobbies and spaces with the comfort that I won't follow them into their abyss.

I don't look at people who say "I don't like/care for rap" as racist.

I look at people who say "Ugh, I HATE rap," "Why did they put this shit in the trailer?" "Rap isn't even real music" "I've got rap fatigue," "Who is (insert every platinum selling artist)???" as definitely on some anti-Black shit.

It is the over-the-top performance of hatred and disgust that should be critiqued and examined from a social lens, not the mere disposition of not liking something.

So which is it?  

She's also back to non-binary:

There was no specific work or character that led me to the fandom; I didn't even know there was a fandom. I was invited to a convention and decided I liked it enough to participate. I like cartoon animals (and animals in general) but that moreso ties into my education and career as an animator. I personally don't feel there's really a direct link between me being NB and me bring a Furry, as in the fandom is the thing that helped me realize it, but I do know I feel more comfortable openly identifying as NB at Furry spaces because it's already a queer space to begin with. I reside comfortably within the "this is a hobby" realm personally. Hell, at this stage in my life I care more for Overwatch than Furry lol.

As always, worth pointing out that a lot of the attitude towards furries, especially from the internet, is just reheated anti-LGBT bigotry.

Always was. The furry community itself is 80% queer, which means anti-furry attitudes are almost by default anti-queer.

That's not how it works, that's not how anything works.

If this was just about apathy, no one would care. But it's not. Era has made it clear they hate Furries. And I mean, hate them.

And fair dues, we all have something we hate. I'm weirded out by the fact that a non-zero portion of this population of Furry haters is also really into female anime characters whose faces make them look like minors, regardless of if there's an attraction element present, but whatever. My distaste of this results in an actual apathy. You simply won't find me in any threads or circles wherein I feel like I'm gonna be around the Kantai and VTuber crowd. That fandom is between you and your god(s).

But when it comes to Furry hate, people can't seem to help themselves about decrying us as disgusting, and yeah when you realize the fandom is majority queer, it is fair to question the root of that disgust.

It's not all that removed from how certain people just have this seething, white-hot rage for rap music that they have to crow on about every fucking time it appears in a trailer, like they were literally assaulted by having to hear a nigga go a few bars (not like rap elements aren't finding their way in other genres anyways; fuckin' Taylor and whatever country bumpkin of the day is in will use a trap beat at this point). I'm not saying you have to like rap. I'm saying that given its unambiguously Black roots, the over-the-top disgust and hatred of it by some people is inevitably rooted in some level of unaddressed anti-Blackness.

Same with Furry. If you're acting like a 4Chan loser about Furries in 2025, calling them disgusting, sex pests, and what have you, don't be surprised if that group wonders if you've got some latent queerphobia that you've found a way to express in a more acceptable manner.

In other words, people- who I assume are somehow working, educated adults with jobs and families and shit- just need to get over themselves. If you're offended by the idea that Furry hate might be rooted in queerphobia, understand why that is and work on yourself.

Furries are disgusting and sex pests because:
1. it's animals, which is inherently wrong
2. it's sex suits with fur that aren't cleaned, so often their very physical presence is disgusting
3. they do it in public
4. they make accusations against others as being bigots despite engaging in their fetishes in public which isn't typically acceptable for anyone
See, zero queerphobia involved.

100%

I can't imagine seeing a thread or some such about something I have zero interest in, like sports or whatever, and deciding to go in just to type something along the lines of "ew, sports. Cringe". The very notion of doing such is completely baffling to me personally, because when I'm apathetic to something, I just don't even bother to interact with it.

It definitely always raises some eyebrows from me whenever I see people champing at the bit to mock furries, or complain about rap. Like... Why do you care so much? Is it so hard to just ignore something and scroll past? It really does often feel like it's simply because it's a "socially acceptable" form of venting their pent up bigotry in not so subtle ways, like some kind of bizarro dog whistle or something.

Either that or it's some way of distancing themselves from something they think is going to paint a target on their back, but in those cases I think simply saying nothing is going to go over immensely better for you than "Furries are gross, amiright? (I'm totally not a furry you guys, serious!)" lol

Have you visited any other threads ever on this forum?  

Funnily enough I used to mock sports in this way.

Then I grew the fuck up (mainly by coming to realize I actually like sports and athleticism lol).

Degrading a subject matter in this way, especially one in which people are already actively talking about it, Is very much just passive-aggressive signalling that your ignorance, apathy, and/or lack of being in the in-group is somehow noble, something for others to commend or be proud of. It's immature bullshit and deserves to be openly shamed.

The unique ways in which humans creatively and competitively express themselves through the arts- whether it's sports, furry culture, video games, what have you- is, I would wager, the one thing that separates from the animals. It's something to be admired, celebrated, and protected, even if realistically you're not going to have a significant interest in all of the creative endeavors humans can possibly engage in.

Again, you don't have to like everything. Just don't be an asshole. Unfortunately, a lot of Furry haters have gotten away with not being told they're assholes for too long that they think being a virtue-signalling asshole is acceptable, which frankly is partially a failure on the Furry community for being too fuckin' nice with these people. Like about a third of this topic needs to be told to go to Hell lol.

Like holy shit.

[Uncle]

Hell, at this stage in my life I care more for Overwatch than Furry lol.

this is because she's scared of being recognized in furry spaces for being a scammer who sells a whole fur suit and does nothing and just keeps the money

[filler]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deep-down-most-people-like-furries-they-just-don%E2%80%99t-know-it-yet-fuga-melodies-of-steel-and-aeruta-creators-talk-about-kemomimi-furries-appeal.1357552/page-6#post-147937465

This is hilariously deranged:

I never made a character judgement towards you specifically. I'm saying the idea that Furry hate can be entirely divorced from queerphobia is bullshit, in the same way that hating rap can be entirely divorced from anti-Blackness is bullshit.

There's not only an inextricable connection between these subcultures and their demographics, but the subcultures and demographics also exist in a wider, bigoted society at large. You can't approach this in a vacuum.

"I'm not homophobic, I just don't like the fursuits." Then don't look at them. Problem solved. "I'm not racist, I just can't understand what they're saying." Then don't listen to rap. Or hang around more Black people so you can figure it out. Problem solved.

Any adult obsessively whinging and shitting themselves in 2025 over rap deserves to be told to shut the fuck up; same when this behavior is leveled at Furries. If people find that unfair, tough shit. They can retreat back into their weird-ass little hobbies and spaces with the comfort that I won't follow them into their abyss.

I don't look at people who say "I don't like/care for rap" as racist.

I look at people who say "Ugh, I HATE rap," "Why did they put this shit in the trailer?" "Rap isn't even real music" "I've got rap fatigue," "Who is (insert every platinum selling artist)???" as definitely on some anti-Black shit.

It is the over-the-top performance of hatred and disgust that should be critiqued and examined from a social lens, not the mere disposition of not liking something.

So which is it?  

She's also back to non-binary:

There was no specific work or character that led me to the fandom; I didn't even know there was a fandom. I was invited to a convention and decided I liked it enough to participate. I like cartoon animals (and animals in general) but that moreso ties into my education and career as an animator. I personally don't feel there's really a direct link between me being NB and me bring a Furry, as in the fandom is the thing that helped me realize it, but I do know I feel more comfortable openly identifying as NB at Furry spaces because it's already a queer space to begin with. I reside comfortably within the "this is a hobby" realm personally. Hell, at this stage in my life I care more for Overwatch than Furry lol.

As always, worth pointing out that a lot of the attitude towards furries, especially from the internet, is just reheated anti-LGBT bigotry.

Always was. The furry community itself is 80% queer, which means anti-furry attitudes are almost by default anti-queer.

That's not how it works, that's not how anything works.

If this was just about apathy, no one would care. But it's not. Era has made it clear they hate Furries. And I mean, hate them.

And fair dues, we all have something we hate. I'm weirded out by the fact that a non-zero portion of this population of Furry haters is also really into female anime characters whose faces make them look like minors, regardless of if there's an attraction element present, but whatever. My distaste of this results in an actual apathy. You simply won't find me in any threads or circles wherein I feel like I'm gonna be around the Kantai and VTuber crowd. That fandom is between you and your god(s).

But when it comes to Furry hate, people can't seem to help themselves about decrying us as disgusting, and yeah when you realize the fandom is majority queer, it is fair to question the root of that disgust.

It's not all that removed from how certain people just have this seething, white-hot rage for rap music that they have to crow on about every fucking time it appears in a trailer, like they were literally assaulted by having to hear a nigga go a few bars (not like rap elements aren't finding their way in other genres anyways; fuckin' Taylor and whatever country bumpkin of the day is in will use a trap beat at this point). I'm not saying you have to like rap. I'm saying that given its unambiguously Black roots, the over-the-top disgust and hatred of it by some people is inevitably rooted in some level of unaddressed anti-Blackness.

Same with Furry. If you're acting like a 4Chan loser about Furries in 2025, calling them disgusting, sex pests, and what have you, don't be surprised if that group wonders if you've got some latent queerphobia that you've found a way to express in a more acceptable manner.

In other words, people- who I assume are somehow working, educated adults with jobs and families and shit- just need to get over themselves. If you're offended by the idea that Furry hate might be rooted in queerphobia, understand why that is and work on yourself.

Furries are disgusting and sex pests because:
1. it's animals, which is inherently wrong
2. it's sex suits with fur that aren't cleaned, so often their very physical presence is disgusting
3. they do it in public
4. they make accusations against others as being bigots despite engaging in their fetishes in public which isn't typically acceptable for anyone
See, zero queerphobia involved.

100%

I can't imagine seeing a thread or some such about something I have zero interest in, like sports or whatever, and deciding to go in just to type something along the lines of "ew, sports. Cringe". The very notion of doing such is completely baffling to me personally, because when I'm apathetic to something, I just don't even bother to interact with it.

It definitely always raises some eyebrows from me whenever I see people champing at the bit to mock furries, or complain about rap. Like... Why do you care so much? Is it so hard to just ignore something and scroll past? It really does often feel like it's simply because it's a "socially acceptable" form of venting their pent up bigotry in not so subtle ways, like some kind of bizarro dog whistle or something.

Either that or it's some way of distancing themselves from something they think is going to paint a target on their back, but in those cases I think simply saying nothing is going to go over immensely better for you than "Furries are gross, amiright? (I'm totally not a furry you guys, serious!)" lol

Have you visited any other threads ever on this forum?  

Funnily enough I used to mock sports in this way.

Then I grew the fuck up (mainly by coming to realize I actually like sports and athleticism lol).

Degrading a subject matter in this way, especially one in which people are already actively talking about it, Is very much just passive-aggressive signalling that your ignorance, apathy, and/or lack of being in the in-group is somehow noble, something for others to commend or be proud of. It's immature bullshit and deserves to be openly shamed.

The unique ways in which humans creatively and competitively express themselves through the arts- whether it's sports, furry culture, video games, what have you- is, I would wager, the one thing that separates from the animals. It's something to be admired, celebrated, and protected, even if realistically you're not going to have a significant interest in all of the creative endeavors humans can possibly engage in.

Again, you don't have to like everything. Just don't be an asshole. Unfortunately, a lot of Furry haters have gotten away with not being told they're assholes for too long that they think being a virtue-signalling asshole is acceptable, which frankly is partially a failure on the Furry community for being too fuckin' nice with these people. Like about a third of this topic needs to be told to go to Hell lol.

Like holy shit.

@bluballz get him bb

[Propagandhim]

Always was. The furry community itself is 80% queer, which means anti-furry attitudes are almost by default anti-queer.

The vast majority of anime fans online are men, so any negative attitude toward anime fandom is almost by default anti-male.   


Oh you don't like hockey?  90% of hockey players are white men.  Doesn't seem like a coincidence...  

[Besticus Maximus]

Always was. The furry community itself is 80% queer, which means anti-furry attitudes are almost by default anti-queer.

The vast majority of anime fans online are men, so any negative attitude toward anime fandom is almost by default anti-male.   


Oh you don't like hockey?  90% of hockey players are white men?  Doesn't seem like a coincidence...  

Also, curiously, 99.5% of the women are too

[Uncle]

anti-trans sentiment online is fundamentally anti-autism and ableist

[El Derpo]

I have to imagine that LGB people also think that furries are fucking weirdos.

They desperately push the idea that their fetish is actually a kind of sexuality, because the LGB community worked their asses off over decades and now (thankfully), most developed societies understand that discrimination based on sexuality is wrong.

A large amount of the work LGB community did was showing people that they were just like everyone else, pushing back on the idea that LGB = sexual deviant. Then weirdo furries come along and say “yeah! We are proud about our fetish just like all the LGBTs and if you don’t like it you are a bigot”.

[benji]

Always was. The furry community itself is 80% queer, which means anti-furry attitudes are almost by default anti-queer.

The vast majority of anime fans online are men, so any negative attitude toward anime fandom is almost by default anti-male.   


Oh you don't like hockey?  90% of hockey players are white men.  Doesn't seem like a coincidence...  

FACT CHECK:

Power plus privilege plus says no

Because there's no such thing as white or European culture there is not an inextricable connection between these subcultures and their demographics.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Echos thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-youre-the-last-human-being-alive-three-million-years-into-deep-space.1358686/

A wlw thread

The Ship's Computer, a Self-Aware AI who has gone computer senile in their old age, has blanks in their memory and an off sense of humour having no one to talk to in three million years.

[HaughtyFrank]

Always was. The furry community itself is 80% queer, which means anti-furry attitudes are almost by default anti-queer.

The vast majority of anime fans online are men, so any negative attitude toward anime fandom is almost by default anti-male.   


Oh you don't like hockey?  90% of hockey players are white men.  Doesn't seem like a coincidence...  

"It's not a fetish but the sexuality of its member somehow matters a lot"

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/trump-calls-for-the-arrest-and-executions-of-democratic-congress-members.1359259/page-3#post-147924190

This is why I'm a bit scared for Mamdani tomorrow. If Trump truly feels cornered he will enter full autocrat mode. Like I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Mamdani is literally arrested live during the interview.

Hasn't Mamdani already changed his tune from "being this administrations worst nightmare" to "looking forward to finding solutions together"?

[Jansen]

Echos thread:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-youre-the-last-human-being-alive-three-million-years-into-deep-space.1358686/

A wlw thread

The Ship's Computer, a Self-Aware AI who has gone computer senile in their old age, has blanks in their memory and an off sense of humour having no one to talk to in three million years.

wlw

[simiansmarts]

And fair dues, we all have something we hate. I'm weirded out by the fact that a non-zero portion of this population of Furry haters is also really into female anime characters whose faces make them look like minors, regardless of if there's an attraction element present, but whatever. My distaste of this results in an actual apathy. You simply won't find me in any threads or circles wherein I feel like I'm gonna be around the Kantai and VTuber crowd. That fandom is between you and your god(s).

  

Saying this when you're the proud member of a community that as an ongoing issue with "cub porn" is rich  

 
 
The furry community went into a rage when youtube channels that exposed predators on Roblox noticed the large crossover between furries and predators peddling sexual content to kids on that game.

[Uncle]

I have to imagine that LGB people also think that furries are fucking weirdos.

They desperately push the idea that their fetish is actually a kind of sexuality, because the LGB community worked their asses off over decades and now (thankfully), most developed societies understand that discrimination based on sexuality is wrong.

A large amount of the work LGB community did was showing people that they were just like everyone else, pushing back on the idea that LGB = sexual deviant. Then weirdo furries come along and say “yeah! We are proud about our fetish just like all the LGBTs and if you don’t like it you are a bigot”.

what do the Ts think of them

[Uncle]

And fair dues, we all have something we hate. I'm weirded out by the fact that a non-zero portion of this population of Furry haters is also really into female anime characters whose faces make them look like minors, regardless of if there's an attraction element present, but whatever. My distaste of this results in an actual apathy. You simply won't find me in any threads or circles wherein I feel like I'm gonna be around the Kantai and VTuber crowd. That fandom is between you and your god(s).

  

Saying this when you're the proud member of a community that as an ongoing issue with "cub porn" is rich  

oh god

"it's technically not CP because they're not actually human children, so we can draw whatever we want wearing as many soiled diapers as we want, checkmate"

[Uncle]

anyone got any images they want me to edit into that top-of-the-page

[DavidCroquet]

And fair dues, we all have something we hate. I'm weirded out by the fact that a non-zero portion of this population of Furry haters is also really into female anime characters whose faces make them look like minors, regardless of if there's an attraction element present, but whatever. My distaste of this results in an actual apathy. You simply won't find me in any threads or circles wherein I feel like I'm gonna be around the Kantai and VTuber crowd. That fandom is between you and your god(s).

  

Saying this when you're the proud member of a community that as an ongoing issue with "cub porn" is rich  

 
 
The furry community went into a rage when youtube channels that exposed predators on Roblox noticed the large crossover between furries and predators peddling sexual content to kids on that game.

Hey nep, since you’re on the topic, what are your thoughts on babyfur?

[simiansmarts]

This literally happened a few weeks ago. 
 

[Lonewulfeus]

4 posts in and this is already the worst page in this thread

[El Derpo]

I have to imagine that LGB people also think that furries are fucking weirdos.

They desperately push the idea that their fetish is actually a kind of sexuality, because the LGB community worked their asses off over decades and now (thankfully), most developed societies understand that discrimination based on sexuality is wrong.

A large amount of the work LGB community did was showing people that they were just like everyone else, pushing back on the idea that LGB = sexual deviant. Then weirdo furries come along and say “yeah! We are proud about our fetish just like all the LGBTs and if you don’t like it you are a bigot”.

what do the Ts think of them

Couldn’t tell you, I don’t know many trans people and none well so I’d be making assumptions. I do think that there is a difference between sexuality and gender identity, and that with the latter there is the potential for the lines between gender identity and fetishism to be blurred.

I imagine that people who have genuine gender dysphoria feel the same as everyone else. I don’t think that all Trans people are like the terminally online/fetishist/autistic trans people that Era exemplifies. I’m sure most just want to get through their day feeling comfortable with who they are, and I need to remind myself that it’s not fair to assume that Era represents the norm.

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/u-s-coast-guard-will-no-longer-classify-swastikas-nooses-as-hate-symbols.1359736/page-2

Yeah, this entire country's existence has been nothing more than one big test tube experiment for white supremacy. I don't know why people are shocked and surprised at this point. Because it's brazen? Okay, when Trump inevitably leaves and we get some bullshit Democrat in office, guess who still gonna be at the bottom of the totem pole: Niggas and Indigenous folks. Nothing will change in that regard until people get committed to full dismantlement.

Why does Nepenthe assume it can be dismantled if it has been the entire country's MO since existence.  Why not just go to a different country without white people?
When you're at a cookout with diaperfurs babyfurs kittyfurs classicfurs and indigeno-furs, why even risk having it spoiled when Skyler brings his potato salad with raisins?!  It doesn't make any sense!!

[benji]

And fair dues, we all have something we hate. I'm weirded out by the fact that a non-zero portion of this population of Furry haters is also really into female anime characters whose faces make them look like minors, regardless of if there's an attraction element present, but whatever. My distaste of this results in an actual apathy. You simply won't find me in any threads or circles wherein I feel like I'm gonna be around the Kantai and VTuber crowd. That fandom is between you and your god(s).

  

So if someone started a thread about how most people would love this stuff if they actually got into it and how great it is that it's increasing in popularity she's going to just bite her lip about it?

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/u-s-coast-guard-will-no-longer-classify-swastikas-nooses-as-hate-symbols.1359736/page-2

Yeah, this entire country's existence has been nothing more than one big test tube experiment for white supremacy. I don't know why people are shocked and surprised at this point. Because it's brazen? Okay, when Trump inevitably leaves and we get some bullshit Democrat in office, guess who still gonna be at the bottom of the totem pole: Niggas and Indigenous folks. Nothing will change in that regard until people get committed to full dismantlement.

Why does Nepenthe assume it can be dismantled if it has been the entire country's MO since existence.  Why not just go to a different country without white people?
When you're at a cookout with diaperfurs babyfurs kittyfurs classicfurs and indigeno-furs, why even risk having it spoiled when Skyler brings his potato salad with raisins?!  It doesn't make any sense!!

Disclaimer: I took classicfurs from classic nibbas from this video: